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THE Libya Thread pt 2 (merged)

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 18 Dec 2011, 05:08:54

Where are the HEROS of the Revolution?!

Here they are:
The Long Road to Tripoli

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/gad ... 48598.html

The revolution would bring together Libyans from all walks of life. The Long Road to Tripoli is two one-hour documentaries that tell the story of a successful Libyan businessman who left the safety of London to go home, his son who had never before seen war and a property developer who became a revolutionary.

They joined a force of thousands of other ordinary Libyans fighting for freedom. Some had never before held a gun or come under fire. The road they all shared led to the same place and the same hope: to free Libyans from 42 years of Gaddafi's tyranny.

It is a story of extraordinary courage by ordinary people.

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The history written by this brave libyen men is a powerful example for beaten people how to fight back against a brutal tyranny and fight for their freedom rights!

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 18 Dec 2011, 05:27:23

M_B_S wrote:The history written by this brave libyen men is a powerful example for beaten people how to fight back against a brutal tyranny and fight for their freedom rights!

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Without external aid (mainly from US and France) these revolutionaries would achieve nothing.

That is a good point to note for American revolutionaries.
There won't be external aid to help them contend against federal government.
Chinese will not bomb Washington DC to help...
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby gollum » Sun 18 Dec 2011, 05:32:18

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
M_B_S wrote:The history written by this brave libyen men is a powerful example for beaten people how to fight back against a brutal tyranny and fight for their freedom rights!

M_B_S

Without external aid (mainly from US and France) these revolutionaries would achieve nothing.

That is a good point to note for American revolutionaries.
There won't be external aid to help them contend against federal government.
Chinese will not bomb Washington DC to help...



Any "revolution" in America would have to be a conventional war similar to 1860 to have anymore than the most remote chance of success.
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 18 Dec 2011, 08:08:17

gollum wrote:Any "revolution" in America would have to be a conventional war similar to 1860 to have anymore than the most remote chance of success.

They could also walk out of work and allow system to collapse together with their own lives.
Suicidal but if applied on sufficiently large scale, it would work.
Otherwise they have to do nothing and wait for economic and societal collapse delivered by forces of Nature.

So the more expensive oil, the more debt on government books, the more methane in air, the better.
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Something's Fishy in Tripoli

Unread postby Oilguy » Wed 25 Jan 2012, 16:46:02

Way back in early 2011, members of the U.N. Security Council had no problem getting a resolution through that authorized military force in Libya ostensibly to protect civilians from attacks by forces loyal to strongman Moammar Gadhafi. The year before, lawmakers on both sides of the Atlantic were bickering over who did what and why in terms of the cancer-stricken Lockerbie bomber. This Scottish decision to release him, depending on which U.S. lawmaker you spoke with, was tied to a BP deal to drill for oil in Libya. Despite fractures in the new interim government in Tripoli and reports of renewed protests, a decision by the Italian government to quietly discuss trade relations suggests something isn't quite right in the way Western allies pick their fights.

OPEC last year refused to budge when economic doomsayers were predicting the end of days because the war in Libya was pushing oil prices to highs that threatened some mythical economic recovery somewhere in the world. The International Energy Agency stepped in, but by January, oil majors in Libya were saying production levels had more or less returned to normal, all things considered. Italian energy company Eni, which had pretty nice contracts with Gadhafi's government, is happily churning out oil from fields in Libya that were left, for all intents and purposes, unscathed by the best NATO had to offer. Even the most pessimistic oil analysts are surprised at how fast Libyan oil production is back online.

In October, rebel forces presumably said to hell with it and figured they'd save everyone a lot of time by killing Gadhafi themselves. The ICC didn't seem to mind much and a now-fractured interim government did little to worry the Italian government enough to decide during the weekend that business was booming in post-Gadhafi Libya.
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Re: Something's Fishy in Tripoli

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 25 Jan 2012, 17:41:58

Like um, der!
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 16 Feb 2012, 16:24:20

Do a Google News search on

Libya Amnesty International torture

and notice how various "News" outlets cover/spin/ignore this.
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 17 Feb 2012, 13:37:53

A year after uprising, militias hold sway in Libya
In one sign of the lack of control, Finance Minister Hassan Zaklam admitted that millions of dollars from Gaddafi family assets returned to Libya by European countries - a potentially key source of revenue - have flowed right back out of Libya, stolen by corrupt officials and smuggled out in suitcases through the ports.

"The money comes for transit only," Zaklam said in a Feb. 6 interview on Libya state TV. He threatened to resign if the government didn't impose control over ports or stop unfreezing the assets. "I can't be a clown," he said.

Government spokesman Ashur Shamis blamed revolutionaries in charge of ports and middle- and lower-ranking bureaucrats from the old regime who still retain their posts, known among Libyans as the "Green Snakes," after the signature colour of Gaddafi's rule.
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 17 Feb 2012, 13:59:52

FREEDOM CELEBRATION IN LIBYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... OdO1DmyTY4

Celebration of first anniversary of Libyan Revolution in Tree Square

:-D

Enjoy it !
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02/17/ ... volution/#

“I fled the oppressive regime of Gaddafi. However, when Benghazi rose against him, I left my job in the UK and returned to Libya in April 2011 to fight with the Libyan freedom fighters,” stated Al Amine Bejoo, a 38 year-old Libyan with a distinctly cockney accent. Bejoo left Libya at the age of 19 for Malta. He then traveled to Switzerland and the Netherlands until he finally settled down in Torquay (located in southern England) upon receiving asylum.

In spite of the hardships of the past, Bejoo expressed his pride at what he and his countrymen accomplished. “People are happy. This is our revolution. This is our freedom – we can smell it. This is where it all started, Ashajara Square. Everybody worked hard and we won,” he said excitedly.
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 04:14:30

http://feb17.info/wp-content/gallery/on ... ripoli.jpg

http://feb17.info/


This is the moment we all had been waiting for, but never thought could happen. Gaddafi touted himself as the “king of kings” n that he was God and that only he was to be worshiped. He constantly called the Libyan people drugged rats throughout the revolution. His last moments were ironic, symbolic, and historically poetic. Gaddafi spent his last moments being dragged out of a tunnel like the rat and captive by the Libyan youth. They were not members of an army or foreign soldiers. These were regular young Libyans who went out to fight against Gaddafi for their freedom and dignity.
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To our friends in Syria i have the same simple message:

KILL THE TYRANT!

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 14:53:56

M_B_S wrote:FREEDOM CELEBRATION IN LIBYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... OdO1DmyTY4

Celebration of first anniversary of Libyan Revolution in Tree Square

:-D

Enjoy it !
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02/17/ ... volution/#




I guess I skipped too much of a clip since I somehow missed the part where they parading Qaddafi's supporters and feed them pieces of rotting human flesh.
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby rangerone314 » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 15:29:17

Pretorian wrote:
M_B_S wrote:FREEDOM CELEBRATION IN LIBYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... OdO1DmyTY4

Celebration of first anniversary of Libyan Revolution in Tree Square

:-D

Enjoy it !
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02/17/ ... volution/#




I guess I skipped too much of a clip since I somehow missed the part where they parading Qaddafi's supporters and feed them pieces of rotting human flesh.

Someone needs to make a mod for Fallout New Vegas for Libya, where instead of killing Mr House, you kill Gadaffi. I usually take the cannibal perk when I get it, because you can regain health after feasting on your dead enemy.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 23:59:54

rangerone314 wrote:
Pretorian wrote:
M_B_S wrote:FREEDOM CELEBRATION IN LIBYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... OdO1DmyTY4

Celebration of first anniversary of Libyan Revolution in Tree Square

:-D

Enjoy it !
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02/17/ ... volution/#




I guess I skipped too much of a clip since I somehow missed the part where they parading Qaddafi's supporters and feed them pieces of rotting human flesh.

Someone needs to make a mod for Fallout New Vegas for Libya, where instead of killing Mr House, you kill Gadaffi. I usually take the cannibal perk when I get it, because you can regain health after feasting on your dead enemy.



oh so the game is pretty good it seems, i'll get a copy
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 08:42:54

:!:

German RTL star reporter Ms. Antonia Rados says:

Gaddafi was a mass women raper

http://www.quotenmeter.de/cms/?p1=n&p2=55073&p3=


The truth is bitter for every politishan who shakes the hands of this mass women raper!

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 13:47:34

M_B_S wrote::!:

German RTL star reporter Ms. Antonia Rados says:

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Mon 09 Jul 2012, 03:08:52

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/lib ... 48472.html

In a historic election hailed as mostly peaceful, a liberal alliance claimed to be in the lead in Libya's parliamentary elections--the first since the fall of Moammar Gadhafi.

Faisal Krekshi, secretary general of the Alliance of National Forces led by Mahmoud Jibril, said preliminary results put the group in the lead with 63 percent of the vote. But Nouri al-Abar, head of Libya's election commission, would not confirm Krekshi's claims. "We are all waiting and we have nothing to suggest that one party is ahead of others," al-Abar said. "When they talk about winners, advancing parties, all this is speculation." All 200 seats of the transition parliament are up for grabs, including 120 for individual candidates.....
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Libya I never had any doubt....

:-D

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/20 ... 63203.html

Remember the Heros here is the PRICE for their fight: FREEDOM!
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 09 Jul 2012, 13:53:35

M_B_S wrote:Libya I never had any doubt....

But, just to be safe:
A long process of elimination preceeded the vote, with the Commission for Integrity and Patriotism disqualifing 4,000 candidates while HNEC disqualified an additional 650 others.

That was preceded by yet another "process of elimination".
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 04:35:14

18 July 2012 Last updated at 08:08 GMT
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Libya election success for liberal Jibril's bloc

Libyan High National Electoral Commission chairman Nuri al-Abbar announces the Libyan General Results from Libya's first elections since the overthrow of Col Gaddafi have shown gains for an alliance of parties seen as broadly liberal.
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Wow, this is a nice surprice defeat for all who saw Libya going to a muslim sharia stronghold.

:P

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More:
http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,16103698,00.html

Libya's moderate coalition has beaten its Islamist rivals in the first election since the downfall of former leader Moammar Gadhafi. But without a majority it remains unclear who will dominate the next congress.

The National Forces Alliance led by wartime prime minister Mahmoud Jibril gained 39 of 80 seats in Libya's General National Congress, results showed late on Tuesday.

The result gave them a clear victory over Libya's biggest Islamist group, the Justice and Construction Party. The party, which was launched by Libya's Muslim Brotherhood, took just 17 seats in the 200-seat assembly.....

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Remember the HEROS of this GREAT REVOLUTION!

Libyan Revolution 2011 Take Whats Yours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclEFEUgvIY
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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 06 Sep 2012, 09:49:19

OH a big nice catch..... :twisted:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 2cc3ea.bc1

(AFP) – 18 hours ago

WASHINGTON — The United States Wednesday urged Libya to ensure Moamer Kadhafi's former spy chief gets a fair trial after he was extradited back home, but stopped short of insisting he be handed over to the International Criminal Court.

Abdullah al-Senussi, who is wanted by the ICC for crimes against humanity, was returned to Libya from Mauritania after being arrested there in March as he tried to enter the country from Morocco.

"We understand that al-Senussi is now in Libyan custody," acting US State Department deputy spokesman Patrick Ventrell told journalists.

"He has been accused of crimes against humanity. The international community has been very clear that he should be held accountable for his actions," he stressed.......
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There will be a fair short process in Libya ... :badgrin:

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I hope he will answer all secret questions clearly and deeply so real justice could be done.

DEATH for the Mass-Murder!

To the Syrian Tyran: look what kind of end you will in short term see.

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Re: THE Libya Thread (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 12 Sep 2012, 14:30:32

:x

US Ambassador Chris Stevens killed by rocket attack !

Shame on you FREE Libya when you dont find the killers.

I am very sad ......

http://www.libyaherald.com/?p=14174

Tripoli, 12 September:

Libya today denounced the killing of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other US embassy staff.

Speaking at a joint press conference in Tripoli, both Prime Minister Abdurrahman El Kib and Mohamed Magarief, president of the General National Congress, expressed sorrow for what they called “a criminal act”.

We apologise to the American people and to the whole world” for what had happened, Magarief said. He extended Libya’s condolences “to the US government and people” for the death of the ambassador.
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It is absolutly important for Democracy in Libya that these criminals where found and eleminated.

Benghasi NTC Fighters bring them to justice.

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