Ibon wrote:I can now give birth to a new conspiracy theory. The elite knew that the masses were rumbling about the rigged system so they allowed Donald Trump, this dysfunctional psychopath, to become the anti establishment spokesperson knowing that he would implode and be discredited and by association so would the anti establishment movement against the rigged system. In this way the rigged system remains resilient and can persevere.
I'll take an optimistic point of view. That our democracy actually always works itself out, usually for the best.
Which doesn't make for a fun thread, but it's what I think.
Extremes never win the general election, but they can INFLUENCE how the winning centrist candidate winds up governing, and our politics overall, into the next term.
The thing is.. to varying degrees, WE are in fact all the "Establishment," too. It's NOT just "the rich" or "wall street" or the "corporations" (a lot of people work for corporations, for starters).
It's all a big boat, and everyone is in it, and actually the rich matter too and it all just has to balance out (congressmen are supposed to be compromising with each other).
If Clinton wins, my hope would be that there's some real and genuine incremental progress that comes from the Establishment (D and R), the whole "new world order global American led alliance" does not have to close up shop (and just personally I don't even think it's a bad thing, these are the the democracies of the world, that IS "the world order").. it really just all comes down to some very simple policy things, *we just need a little more Canadian and Australian* type policies, it's as simple as that.
The next president and congress ought to raise the minimum wage, and do the maternity leave and childcare plan, do something about college cost reform, and do whatever it is they got to do, to get toward universal healthcare that's also affordable.
R's must stop blocking everything, reflexively.
So, we'll see what happens. If the "Establishment" centrists are smart, hopefully Gary Johnson polling so well, and Green Party doing better than before, and the entire Trump thing, will have taught them a lesson and they'll just finally do some things to make folk happier -- so that their position does not, in fact, entirely crumble and then we get a Hugo Chavez or some such elected, someday.
