wizard69 Got my bank statement and they charged me for my epx back on june 9 and all I have is a promise to ship b/4 july 1.. Wonder how far into the "early" 3rd q we will be before they acknowledge the petrobas job is shipping or not..Hows that nano shield coming? Are the monthly shipments being made to turkey? So many things they could keep us updated about and instead we get fluff....They are wearing be down..
wizard69 Now they can't find my order for the epx, starting to look more and more like "the gang that can't shoot straight". Going to get me the shipping number when they find it. lol
wizard We're getting closer, recieved Part A of my EPX, kinda tuff to do my experiments with only half an epoxy..good thing I have a sense of humor.
sandbath Oh, brother. lol! Mom-n-Pop strikes again.
wizard Started my testing of the EPX. Test 1 - Filled new paint can with water and heated with an immersion heater. after 20 minutes, outside surfact temp of can was 190 degrees F. Can now coated with about 1/8 "
(could not get thicker, product slides on round or vertical surface) Test 2 - Flat metal sheet (approx 24 ga) layed directly on top of heat lamp. After 20 minutes, surface temp was 222 degrees F. Sheet coated with approx 1/4" of epx.. Will retest after some curing time.. Any guesses on temp on test??????
sandbath Wiz, My guess is the treated metal sheet will be around 100F, as compared to the 222F before treating it with EPX.
wizard It was around 160 degrees, that was with less than 24 hrs curing time. I think I will put another coat on and let it set for awile, wasn't quite 1/4" thick after setting. BTW, talked to FC about mixing the epx since they didn't include any instructions. Asked about Petrobas and got the impression that they were not shipping until after the meeting at intk's lab. (in august) Also, you are correct about DEBA shipment. Comments on EPX- (1) Label is terrible- fine print on edges so small barely readable. (2) Thinner than I expected, runs on vert or round surfaces, won't work well on piping and tanks, the most obvious use. To be fair, maybe the instructions suggest letting it set for awile before application, will let you know when I recieve them. I put it on with a 2" short brissle throw away brush. No trowel needed.
wizard69 Number 3 and its a biggee - The mixture rate is 4 parts A to 1 part B so a "2 gallon kit" only contains 1 1/4 gallons of actual product. Don't think that will fly with the customer too well. The shipment I received came in - Part A in a 2 gal plastic bucket and part B in a 1 gal metal can so this can be recified by just adding product in the correct ratio.
sandbath wizard, You ordwered EPX-4, not EPX-K, and the EPX-4 was runnier than you expected? You sure you mixed it separately very well as suggested, and then together very well as suggested, then waited 10 minutes after mixing them together? If you did, then I'm concerned because if it won't stay on piping and tanks then it won't sell IMO.
You can get the application instructions from the website, no need to receive them from the company.
wizard69Second test on the flat sheet, after 4 days of cure, about 3/8" thickness, the temp reached 160 degrees after about 20 minutes. About a 62 degree drop.
sandbath About a 27% temp reduction. Is there any way you can up the temp of your experiment to see if greater % temp savings is achieved, more similar to the Kolorgen PR'd demonstration? So far, your experiment doesn't sound like it performed similarly to the Kolorgen one. But I believe higher temps mean greater effectiveness?
wizard69Since they screwed up my first order, they promised to send me an extra 2 gal kit of epx. recieved the Part A and not the Part B again. Man, I hope they do a better job with their real customers..They just keep wearing me down. Wish the stock would get back in the 20's, believe I would peel most of my holdings.
Now brittleness
wizard69FC passed my call to IR and they called me back this am. Info I got as follows: Should be a SH update B/4 eoy; audit now scheduled for Jan; DEBA shipment in Jan, SB has tentative shipping schedule; Petrabas still viable project; Bee protect recieving lots of interest. Pretty much same BS as usual. I requested they pass to SB to put out a monthly update and emphasized SH disappointment in their constant NON follow up of previosly announced projects. He said that is a common complaint from SH and he had mentioned to SB before. Also asked about the EPX being so brittle after curing and he thought they had tweaked the formula. My guess the reason for some of the delay of the EPX projects.
sandbathwizard, Thanks. Sounds like they told you the same generic stuff I get when I ask and plead for updates. It's very unprofessional to leave us hanging so often on so many "important" milestones. We all deserve at least a quartely CEO update so that we can hear from the head honcho himself why previously announcements aren't happening as stated. I'm sure it's no fun to give those kinds of updates, but I don't care. If they can get people excited, then they can also give us reality re: why things don't happen.
I heard the reformulation, or whatever they did, was was so that folks wouldn't leave so much Part B of the EPX in the container. Something about that making the mixture not perform as it would if they'd gotten all of the Part B out of the contaier. I don't know if that has anything to do with correcting a brittleness issue or not, but I sure am concerned about whether Petrobras is going to "certify" it.
Too many generic updates f epx.
Company sounds like it doesn't have its sh*t together. Product doesn't sound much better