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Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Doly » Mon 15 Aug 2022, 14:25:47

Your comment contains within it speciesism, a horrible human idea that is part of how we got to where we are, thinking we are the species that matter above all others.


Well, I'm not only terribly humanist, I'm also terribly in favour of putting me and my family over everyone else, my home above everybody else's homes, my town above everyone else's, and even (shock! horror!) my favorite Internet sites above the rest of the Internet.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby JuanP » Mon 15 Aug 2022, 16:42:13

Doly wrote:
Your comment contains within it speciesism, a horrible human idea that is part of how we got to where we are, thinking we are the species that matter above all others.


Well, I'm not only terribly humanist, I'm also terribly in favour of putting me and my family over everyone else, my home above everybody else's homes, my town above everyone else's, and even (shock! horror!) my favorite Internet sites above the rest of the Internet.


I find your honesty about your very human flaws refreshing.
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Beware a climate ‘doom loop,’.....

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 19 Feb 2023, 12:00:20

LONDON — The devastating effects of climate change on Earth could become so overwhelming that they undermine humanity’s capacity to tackle climate change’s root causes, researchers warned Wednesday.

Beware a climate ‘doom loop,’ where crisis is harder to solve, report says
What does a science denier look like?

Armageddon » Thu 09 Feb 2006, 10:47:28
whales are a perfect example as to why evolution is wrong. Nothing can evolve into something that enormous. There is no explanation for it getting that big. end of discussion
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 27 Feb 2023, 03:39:17

Doly wrote:Well, I'm not only terribly humanist, I'm also terribly in favour of putting me and my family over everyone else, my home above everybody else's homes, my town above everyone else's, and even (shock! horror!) my favorite Internet sites above the rest of the Internet.


Viewing profile - Doly Last visited: Wed 14 Sep 2022,
Website: http://www.transitionbrightonandhove.org.uk (defunct)

Well either Doly has gone on extended holiday or she's transcended, like 99.8% of the other forum posters.
It's amazing how many joined in 2004/2005, the 'peak' of the peak oil awareness so to speak. And then, like the 70's grassroots movement, all went off to do other things. I hope a lot of them took away the key message though, and made their lives more resilient to the changes we've seen over the past two decades.

I sometimes wonder what was going through the minds of the people back in 2004 who were buying homes and then became 'home-less' a decade later. Was it a contingency they allowed for? Or did it simply hit them like a ton of bricks? The latter in most all cases I would say. Based on the people I have known over the years who lost it all.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 09 Mar 2023, 17:43:07

India to get heat waves this year after hottest February on record

MUMBAI/NEW DELHI, Feb 28 (Reuters) - India is likely to experience heat waves between March and May, especially in the key wheat producing central and northern states... A heat wave curtailed India's wheat production in 2022 and forced the world's second largest producer to ban exports


Food scarcity, hunger.

Higher temperatures could also lift power consumption above supplies during the summer season.


Rolling blackouts, heat deaths.

The government directed health departments across the country to implement "heat-related health action plans".


Government to the rescue. I assume these plans involve moving their families to the cooler mountain retreats for the summer and ensuring that their homes and offices in the cities have abundant reserve diesel fuel for their backup generators. :roll:

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 023-02-28/
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Simon_R » Fri 10 Mar 2023, 04:05:26

@theluckycountry
You raise a really good point, I still visit this site time to time, but not as frequently as before, and I still stick to peak oil from conventional resevoirs (I learnt :) )
More importantly any prepping done should allow you to survive economic crises (sp?) I learnt that lesson in 2008, and we are still applying this now
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 10 Mar 2023, 17:59:07

@Simon_R
The vast majority of active posters here are of the cornucopian stripe. They embrace all new technological promises without question, and just as quickly ignore them when they fail, then they move on to the next solution.


Cornucopian: label given to individuals who assert that the environmental problems faced by society either do not exist or can be solved by technology or the free market. Cornucopians hold an anthropocentric view of the environment and reject the ideas that population-growth projections are problematic and that Earth has finite resources and carrying capacity
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby yellowcanoe » Sat 11 Mar 2023, 00:05:22

theluckycountry wrote:The vast majority of active posters here are of the cornucopian stripe. They embrace all new technological promises without question, and just as quickly ignore them when they fail, then they move on to the next solution.


A more specific term for that is technocopian. I am not sure I would agree that the majority of posters here are technocopians. I certainly don't believe I am one and that is despite the fact that I am trained as an engineer. Indeed, I feel that my experience with engineering and science is what leads me to believe that technology cannot solve our problems.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 11 Mar 2023, 11:20:43

theluckycountry wrote:@Simon_R
The vast majority of active posters here are of the cornucopian stripe.


Yes... peak oilers are cornocopians. Gee....I wonder what half brained provincial would make that mistake.

Oh I know! The kind that is still pissed that peak oilers got it wrong, not only didn't oil end but worse it didn't take the world with it, so now hysterical PM collecting McDoomsters can only whine and pretend everyone is cornocopian. While desperately hoping that they don't end before the world does so they can be right for just that one time, in their otherwise insignificant and provincial lives.
What does a science denier look like?

Armageddon » Thu 09 Feb 2006, 10:47:28
whales are a perfect example as to why evolution is wrong. Nothing can evolve into something that enormous. There is no explanation for it getting that big. end of discussion
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