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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Newfie » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 12:21:27

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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 12:47:28

A bit of side work while drawing unemployment normal. Here self employed people are having trouble getting materials to do the jobs with.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 14:00:30

vtsnowedin wrote:My keyboard has died so this will be short. Trump out with GOP still in control of senate looks likely and best possible result. George runoffs worries me.

Yes. If the dems get control of the senate, there goes the whole balance and potential restraint on spending aspect. Especially if Harris takes over as POTUS in time.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby mmasters » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 14:27:02

Armageddon wrote:Welcome aboard the silver train. Silver is the second most important commodity in the world behind oil. It has a two-fold importance.... industrial and monetary. It’s industrial usages are vital in this technological world. Supplies are becoming more and more scarce too. It’s been running a supply/demand deficit the past several years and predicted to get worse. I saw this coming late in 2018 when i went all in on physical silver at $14 spot. No regrets. The current price of $25 will seem like a bargain in the coming months / years.

You made a great buy at $14... I thought Trump would have 2 terms and it would be a little longer before this downfall of the US type stuff would come into play.

Anyway with Biden in there I've made my coarse correction. Hi ho silver, away! :D
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 15:54:02

My buy for this month was a bit of UPS. With Biden fighting Covid online shopping will soar and UPS will deliver much of it.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 17:49:28

vtsnowedin wrote:My buy for this month was a bit of UPS. With Biden fighting Covid online shopping will soar and UPS will deliver much of it.

I would expect Biden to perhaps recommend less bars being open, less dining, in, etc. But I'd be amazed if he recommends the type of lockdown that would shut down Krogers, Walmart, etc. So why would online shopping "soar", when there's already a HUGE amount of online shopping going on re Covid concerns, for the US?

It might increase a little as the fear grows. OTOH, unless Biden can get strong mandates passed, in red states, most of any federal standards / mandates like mask wearing are likely to be largely ignored, if they're stronger than various governors already have in place.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 18:29:50

Well I have placed my bet and will wait and see. I doubt that UPS will lose money this year or any year this decade. What is your better pick?
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 07 Nov 2020, 21:43:55

mmasters wrote:
Armageddon wrote:Welcome aboard the silver train. Silver is the second most important commodity in the world behind oil. It has a two-fold importance.... industrial and monetary. It’s industrial usages are vital in this technological world. Supplies are becoming more and more scarce too. It’s been running a supply/demand deficit the past several years and predicted to get worse. I saw this coming late in 2018 when i went all in on physical silver at $14 spot. No regrets. The current price of $25 will seem like a bargain in the coming months / years.

You made a great buy at $14... I thought Trump would have 2 terms and it would be a little longer before this downfall of the US type stuff would come into play.

Anyway with Biden in there I've made my coarse correction. Hi ho silver, away! :D




It would have continued to rise under Trump, but it may explode under Biden with his green agenda and monetary policy (not that Trumps is any better). Either way, silver is the most undervalued commodity in the world. $26 is still ridiculously low.

BTW, I’m not 100% convinced this election is over with the amount of fraud they’re finding. I think the courts are going to decide this one in the coming weeks/months.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Poordogabone » Sun 08 Nov 2020, 02:15:56

Interesting thread, has any of you fine gents figured out how to make money from the pandemic yet?
There's studies that indicate the correlation between pollution (CO2) exposure and covid-19 severe cases/death rate.
You can invest in deforestation, fossil fuels, respirators and coffins.

I stopped looking a this site when moderators let it sink to moronic discourses.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby evilgenius » Sun 08 Nov 2020, 11:49:06

I am considering the oil sector. The pandemic is about to get really bad. The price of oil has not been immune to the decrease in demand that has come along with the severity of the pandemic. But buy low, sell high. Not yet, but soon. Oil should fall into the twenties at some point.

I am looking at either a big fish, like COP, or CVX, or something that could double on a rebound to $40 oil from the twenties. Isn't $40 about where oil will go after the pandemic is over? For those I am looking at something regional, like HEP. It could easily go back up above $20, when oil goes back to $40. When oil is at $28, though, they may be had for $5.50, who knows? It's certainly worth watching. A good thing about HEP is that its dividend situation might make it attractive to hold after it does gain. I wouldn't have to think about selling as much, and possibly missing out on a further oil price run up to $50, or more.

I think a lot depends upon what twenty dollar oil does to the industry. You have to wonder how many bond holders are going to be owners of capital by this time next year? I'm also interested in RIG. I just don't know if I believe they will be around in five years. Because when EV's don't cut it, or first look like they might not, RIG could go ballistic. If it can hang on until the next very heavy phase of investment in oil, It could literally go from under a dollar to over a hundred dollars.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby evilgenius » Sun 08 Nov 2020, 12:31:52

More immediately, I am wondering if weed stocks have it in them to run? The election made a statement. Was it statement enough to signal an inflection point in weed stocks?
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 08 Nov 2020, 13:09:35

I think the weed stocks have a bright future but as I,m not a user they are lower down my list. On energy I bought two. Exxon and Nextera energy. Exxon for their breadth of assets through the oil industry and NEE for its renewables' as well as it,s diversification. Next month I will choose between manufacturing or high tech. Toyota or Microsoft most likely. I will buy both in time.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 08 Nov 2020, 13:57:26

Poordogabone wrote:Interesting thread, has any of you fine gents figured out how to make money from the pandemic yet?
There's studies that indicate the correlation between pollution (CO2) exposure and covid-19 severe cases/death rate.
You can invest in deforestation, fossil fuels, respirators and coffins.

I stopped looking a this site when moderators let it sink to moronic discourses.


Most of my retirement is in fixed income. The balance is invested in specialty REITs. Farmland, cold storage, data centers, cell towers.

Although the time frame is very short these seem to be doing well.

Out other major investment is our small apartment building in Philadelphia which is holding its own value plus a little. Counter balancing efforts; some folks want to get out of the city due covid, others want in to avoid the mass transit ride. No plans to sell so far.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 09 Nov 2020, 14:00:36

The vaccine news was very good today.

Its looking like by sometime next year the vaccine will be widely available and the pandemic will be over, at least in the US.

Its time to shift from Coronavirus Investing to Post-Coronavirus investing.

And keep an eye on the two senate seats in Georgia----if they both go D then we're back to full D control of government and we can expect higher taxes and socialist policies to be rolled out......

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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 09 Nov 2020, 14:27:44

Plantagenet wrote:The vaccine news was very good today.

Its looking like by sometime next year the vaccine will be widely available and the pandemic will be over, at least in the US.

Its time to shift from Coronavirus Investing to Post-Coronavirus investing.

And keep an eye on the two senate seats in Georgia----if they both go D then we're back to full D control of government and we can expect higher taxes and socialist policies to be rolled out......

Cheers!

Yes I will be watching and move to cash if the Dems. appear to be in the lead.
I would hate to see today's nice gains melt away January sixth.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 09 Nov 2020, 15:39:51

vtsnowedin wrote:Yes I will be watching and move to cash if the Dems. appear to be in the lead.
I would hate to see today's nice gains melt away January sixth.


Congrats on your nice gains today.

I'm convinced that investing is one of the toughest things there is.........if everything goes right it feels so good.

But when things go wrong it is very much the opposite.

So ENJOY!

Cheers! :) :-D
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 09 Nov 2020, 16:35:33

Plantagenet wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Yes I will be watching and move to cash if the Dems. appear to be in the lead.
I would hate to see today's nice gains melt away January sixth.


Congrats on your nice gains today.

I'm convinced that investing is one of the toughest things there is.........if everything goes right it feels so good.

But when things go wrong it is very much the opposite.

So ENJOY!

Cheers! :) :-D

Up 6.8% today so I certainly am smiling . :-D
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 15:56:26

Another feel good day with every stock I have going up with the vaccine bets both going strong.
Of course I can expect some down days as the lockdowns and restrictions increase with Vermont adding on a lot of them today but at least I'll start from a high point before going down.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 17:24:13

vtsnowedin wrote:Another feel good day with every stock I have going up with the vaccine bets both going strong.
Of course I can expect some down days as the lockdowns and restrictions increase with Vermont adding on a lot of them today but at least I'll start from a high point before going down.

Well, per an article I read today, it appears the BIden Covid-19 strategy team does NOT favor a full lockdown, and that such an idea wasn't actually ever recommended -- only stated as one way to go.

So, where things get bad, expect lots of (reasonable, IMO) restrictions on things like bars, sit-down dining, large gatherings, and perhaps more mask wearing, but NOT for critical business re factories and retail and people earning, buying, etc. -- much of the normal economic activity.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/biden-a ... kdown.html

So I see that as science based compromise, which, big picture, is kind of hard to argue with, IMO.
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Re: Coronavirus Investing

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 17:54:12

Not only is Biden flip flopping on the "shutdown" pledge....now he is also back-pedaling even on his pledge to mandate mask wearing......now Biden says he will just "urge" people to wear masks...

biden-back-pedal-mask-pledge-no-mandate-just-urge

SHEESH!

What a cowardly weakling.......Biden gets a little blowback on the idea of imposing a nationwide shutdown and he immediately backs down from mandating anything????

And Biden is one of those dopes who wear their masks so their noses stick out over the top of the mask.

Is Biden so stupid that he doesn't know that he breathes through his nose??????

Oh My god......He's not even president yet and he's already backed down on his virus pledges.

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Biden you dope....don't you even know that you are supposed to cover your nose with the mask???? SHEESH!

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