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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby Ayoob » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 00:51:42

Let me be the first to shit on his Chapter 20 installation. He describes the widest possible range of outcomes and then refuses to weigh in on what the most likely outcome would be.

Then, he says that we're each personally responsible for ourselves.

How is this valuable information? I don't see it.
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 01:44:00

Shannymara wrote:I finally watched some of this tonight. I'm through chapter 12. Wow, it's amazing. I think his explanations of money, debt, and how it all fits together are by far the best I've seen. I've always had trouble understanding that stuff, and now not only do I understand it much better, but I also understand why I didn't understand it before!

Many thanks to all the posters here who convinced me to spend some time watching this.



Fantastic report!! The message is clearly stated: The world as we know it will cease to exist in a fairly short period of time, just like so many here have stated over and over, but never quite this eloquently.

These are MUST watch videos everyone!
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby crabnebulous » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 04:10:31

Within three years America will be a third world economic power.
Within four confrontation.
And within 5, all issues will have been resolved completely.
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby fullerine » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 04:59:09

crabnebulous wrote:Within three years America will be a third world economic power.
Within four confrontation.
And within 5, all issues will have been resolved completely.


This had to happpen to become part of the world order. The extremely high lifestyle of america had to be reduced drastically to fit into and balance into allowing a one world system, everyone knew that, and this is the trip, the bus has left, next stop:

No middle class. Then we can have a world plan put into place.

We must get back to the Lord's and serfs of the dark ages 99 percent serfs and 1% Lord's this is how it was for 2000 years, and it is the only way we can do it.

Secondly we have to decrease population to have enough room for the serfs, since we have no more middle class money/oil powered houses with hot cold running water, not enough resource for this.

But, the PTB certainly want our exc cesses today to be their excesses and to put us back in our place, and they will not let the genie of freedom ever escape from their bottle again.

America, was the great experiment that shows what happens when men are let loose and become free, they assumed America would falter within 20 years instead it outshone the european old world order and made the rules, shocker.

now they have to stuff the genie back in the battle.

Why?

Cause optherwise they can't be in charge.. There it is, the great experiment is over but for the bankruptcies.

If America would have been allowed to continue without central bank initiated collapse, what would have happened would have been freedom from tyranny forever.

This option was not considered or wanted, You must have tyranny if you are to have slaves.

Anyway the bus has left, we are now on the final phase of destroying the middle class, and it will never appear again.

Its a long trip, 3 years, and the majority of people starve along the way but it is necessary to get there, no peak oil, we wont last that long.
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby Dukkha » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 05:14:54

Thanks for the link. Up to chapter 14 so far. Really first class piece of work - excellent exposition. I now only have to pester my wife into watching it.
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby killJOY » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 06:38:20

Let me be the first to crap on his Chapter 20 installation. He describes the widest possible range of outcomes and then refuses to weigh in on what the most likely outcome would be.

Then, he says that we're each personally responsible for ourselves.

How is this valuable information? I don't see it.


Agreed.

I was bored and disappointed.

But don't let this dissuade anyone from viewing the rest of this brilliant presentation. He delineates the problems we have with growth and then can't choke out a solution--what does that tell you?

The subtext of the last chapter is OH FICK THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby Stratovarius » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 09:39:45

I hear ya killjoy and ayoob.

I think it's clear where the guy stands, and reading some of his blog posts and whatnot, he is preparing for something near the end of the spectrum, perhaps even a total breakdown of government services.

He wanted to be impartial rather than saying, "Okay, step 1: Pull all your money out of your bank account..." He won't weigh in on the most likely outcome because he says he's unsure (a lie!) and would rather just get you to assess yourself and figure it out on your own depending on what you come up with. :cry:
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Crash Course Chapter 20: What Should I Do?

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Sat 25 Oct 2008, 14:03:29

What Should I Do?

Chris Martenson's "End of Money" on line seminar is complete.

Kudo's for a job well done!
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Re: Crash Course Chapter 20: What Should I Do?

Unread postby Stratovarius » Sat 25 Oct 2008, 16:10:40

I appreciate what energybulletin called his "hyper-rational" approach to assessing and preparing. That turns off some people however.

By the way, he has a great questionnaire under the "act" section of his website (signing up is FREE). It's 5 pages and will get you to think about everything that could happen up to his governmental collapse scenario.
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Re: Crash Course Chapter 20: What Should I Do?

Unread postby killJOY » Sat 25 Oct 2008, 19:05:24

There's already a thread on this:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic47243.html

Chapter 20 is a let-down in a spooky, telling way.
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Re: Crash Course Chapter 20: What Should I Do?

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 25 Oct 2008, 19:27:03

It's great that he's for Obama, too. :P
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Re: Chris Martenson releases final chapter in the Crash Cour

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 18:25:46

Ch. 20 may not be his strongest effort, but it was successful in providing a FRAMEWORK for action, which is what he set out to achieve. I give it a thumbs-up.


Stratovarius wrote:... reading some of his blog posts and whatnot, he is preparing for something near the end of the spectrum, perhaps even a total breakdown of government services.


Could you provide a link for some of his more doomerish blog posts?

Thanks.
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Crash Course

Unread postby paimei01 » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 12:32:58

Found this movie about our world :

Crash Course Chapter 1: Three Beliefs | Chris Martenson

Very well done, I think everybody should see it, nothing to add from myself.
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Re: Crash Course

Unread postby biofuel13 » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 14:51:44

Sorry but there are already about 5 threads on "Crash Course".

Ever heard of the search function?!?!
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Chris Martenson's Crash Course

Unread postby Revi » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 12:41:23

Here's something that a friend mentioned. I think it's a really good way to tell people about peak oil and it's economic ramifications. He explains the connection between money and peak oil, and what to do about it in a great way. He doesn't offer specific reccomendations, but provides a framework for making decisions about the future. It's a really good way of doing it:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse
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Re: Chris Martenson's Crash Course

Unread postby ZombieHordeLeader » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 13:55:47

I've watched his entire course. Very informative. I highly recommend it.
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Re: Chris Martenson's Crash Course

Unread postby Spanktron9 » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 14:39:55

Revi-

I'm glad you foud and enjoyed the crash course. It has been a sticky post in the PO discussion forum here since August. Here is the link.

Crash Course thread.

FYI

I also read his site daily and the "daily digest" which catalogs important economic and energy news as well.
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Re: Chris Martenson's Crash Course

Unread postby green_achers » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 17:19:23

I have to get my Martenson fix every day. But lately, it's seemed to me that they're getting a little evangelical over there.
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Re: Chris Martenson's Crash Course

Unread postby Revi » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 19:07:08

I didn't know about it until last night, but I think it's a great course. It's like peak oil in a nutshell. He's a great teacher!
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