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Carbon Nanotubes for Electrical Transmission

Unread postby bratticus » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 09:41:18

2004 Oversight hearing on sustainable, low emission, electricity generation
Full Committee Hearing - Tuesday, April 27 2004 -- Witness: Dr. Richard E. Smalley -- ``The other critical innovation needed is massive electrical power transmission over continental distances, permitting, for example, hundreds of gigawatts of electrical power to be transported from solar farms in New Mexico to markets in New England. ... Nanotechnology in the form of single-walled carbon nanotubes (a.k.a. “buckytubes”) forming what we call the Armchair Quantum Wire may play a big role in this new electrical transmission system. '


2005 'Buckyball' Nobel Laureate Richard Smalley Dies

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2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B8VDiX83es
My name is Eric Costa Diniz and I'm studying electrical engineering at FEI University Center. The title of my project is "Carbon Nanotubes: Reducing Losses in Power Transmission Systems". The project consists of an aluminum wire coated with carbon nanotubes. Carbon nanotubes (CNT) are like wires with hexagonal formations and are very tiny, reaching the nanometer scale, being 40,000 times thinner than a human hair. These cables are used for high voltage power lines.

The big problem is the loss of energy as heat; transformation of the electrical energy into thermal calories. When you heat a metallic material the electrical resistance increases while a cable coated with carbon nanotubes is not affected by this condition. You can raise the temperature to 300°C (572°F) and the resistance does not change.

Electrical resistance measurements were conducted in ordinary and CNT coated cables, the result shows a decrease around 50% in electrical resistance.

The project was awarded with 1st Prize at the Werner von Siemens Technology Innovation competition http://goo.gl/eZ0tB

The next step is to assemble a power transmission line with this technology applying the carbon nanotubes and monitoring the energy savings.

This project was very interesting to me because I'm an electrical engineer and not a materials engineer. I had to learn all the theory about materials science and some in chemistry, which resulted in many nights without sleeping, nights reading scientific articles and a lot of hours at the lab.

This field is very promising especially nowadays where carbon nanotubes have been applied to many fields like mechanical, electrical, textile, pharmaceutical, foods and other.
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Re: Carbon Nanotubes for Electrical Transmission

Unread postby Dezakin » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 21:25:49

I cant imagine such an application will be more cost effective than ordinary aluminum transmission lines for decades to come; They're already pretty efficient at shipping power from one place to another.
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Re: Carbon Nanotubes for Electrical Transmission

Unread postby bratticus » Sat 15 Jan 2011, 19:44:56

Dezakin wrote:I cant [sic] imagine such an application will be more cost effective than ordinary aluminum transmission lines for decades to come; They're already pretty efficient at shipping power from one place to another.

I think you are wrong. HVDC and UHVDC overcome line lost but at increased cost due to requiring expensive converter stations; only AC can be stepped down via simple transformers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hvdc+disadvantage+cost
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Re: Carbon Nanotubes for Electrical Transmission

Unread postby ericdiniz » Sun 24 Jul 2011, 00:03:34

I am Eric Costa Diniz!
It was very interesting to find this post!!!!!

I have never heard about Richard Smalley until I developed this project and attended to a conference in Houston where I meet professors Wade Adams and Robert Hauge at Rice University and visited the Rick Smalley Institute for Nanoscale Science in Houston a couple years ago, unfortunately I haven't the opportunity to meet professor Smalley =(
Professor's Smalley vision of nanotechnology and energy inspired me to keep researching the applications of carbon nanotubes to energy and now I am a graduated electrical engineer and already developed two more applications with solar cells and capacitors.

Answering to Dezakin (I am not sure if anyone will see that but I am answering anyway)
We were in contact with one of the major electrical power transmission company in Brazil and they said they could save about 40mi per year only in a small portion of their transmission lines at São Paulo state coast.
If you wish more information feel free to contact me I will be glad to discuss that with you!
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Re: Carbon Nanotubes for Electrical Transmission

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 19 Aug 2022, 18:04:42

Can Reengineered Aluminum Help Fill the Demand for Copper?



Consider, for a moment, the electrical wire, a pervasive technology that’s extremely easy to forget. Spooled up inside our devices, wrapped around our walls, strung along our streets, millions of tons of thin metallic threads do the job of electrifying the world. But their work is benign, and so naturalistic that it does not really feel like technology at all. Wires move electrons simply because that is what metals do when a current is supplied to them: They conduct.

But there’s always room for improvement. Metals conduct electricity because they contain free electrons that aren’t tethered to any particular atoms. The more electrons that flow, and the faster they go, the better a metal conducts. So to improve that conductivity—crucial for preserving the energy produced at a power plant or stored within a battery—materials scientists are typically on the hunt for more perfect atomic arrangements. Their chief aim is purity—to remove any bits of foreign material or imperfections that break the flow. The more a hunk of gold is gold, the more a copper wire is copper, the better it will conduct. Anything else just gets in the way.

“If you want something really highly conductive, then you’ve just got to go pure,” says Keerti Kappagantula, a materials scientist at the Pacific Northwest National Lab. Which is why she considers her own research rather “wonky.” Her goal is to make metals more conductive by making them less pure. She’ll take a metal like aluminum and throw in additives like graphene or carbon nanotubes, producing an alloy. Do that in just the right way, Kappagantula has found, and the extra material can have a weird effect: It can push the metal past its theoretical limit of conductivity.

The point, in this case, is to create aluminum that can compete with copper in electrical devices—a metal that’s nearly twice as conductive, but also costs about twice as much. Aluminum has benefits: It’s much lighter than copper. And as the most abundant metal in the Earth’s crust—a thousand times more so than copper—it’s also cheaper and easier to dig up.

Copper, on the other hand, is getting harder to source as the world transitions to greener energy. Though long ubiquitous in wiring and motors, demand for it is surging. An electric vehicle uses about four times as much copper as a conventional car, and still more will be required for the electrical components for renewable power plants and the wires that connect them to the grid. Analysts at Wood Mackenzie, an energy-focused research firm, estimated that offshore wind farms will demand 5.5 megatons of the metal over 10 years, mostly for the massive system of cables within generators and for carrying the electrons the turbines produce to the shore. In recent years, the price of copper has spiked, and analysts project a growing shortfall of the metal. Goldman Sachs recently declared it “the new oil.”

Some companies are already swapping it out for aluminum where they can. In recent years, there has been a multibillion-dollar shift in the components of everything from air conditioners to car parts. High-voltage power lines already use aluminum wires, because they are both cheap and lightweight, which allows them to be strung over longer distances. That aluminum is typically in its most pure and highly conductive form.

But this conversion has recently slowed—in part because the swap has already been made for the applications where aluminum makes the most sense, says Jonathan Barnes, a principal analyst in copper markets at Wood Mackenzie. For use in a wider array of electrical applications, conductivity is the major limit. Which is why researchers like Kappagantula are trying to reengineer the metal.

Engineers usually design alloys to improve a metal’s other qualities, like strength or flexibility. But these concoctions are less conductive than the pure stuff. Even if a particular additive is especially good at transporting electricity (which is the case for the carbon-based materials Kappagantula works with), the electrons within the alloy typically have trouble leaping from one material to another. The interfaces between them are the sticking points.

It’s possible to design interfaces where that isn’t the case, but this has to be done with care. The usual ways of making aluminum alloys don’t cut it. Aluminum metal has been produced for more than a century using processes that may ring familiar if you remember your high school chemistry textbook: the Bayer process to get aluminum oxide out of bauxite (the sedimentary rock in which the element is chiefly found), followed by the Hall-Héroult process to smelt the material into aluminum metal.

That second process involves heating the metal to nearly 1,000 degrees Celsius so that it becomes molten—a not-so-climate-friendly procedure that is a large part of why it takes roughly four times as much energy to produce aluminum as it takes to produce copper. And at these temperatures, problems arise for making suitably nuanced alloys. It’s much too hot for an additive like carbon, which will lose its carefully designed structure and wind up distributed unevenly through the metal. The molecules of the two substances realign to form what's known as an intermetallic—a hard and brittle material that acts as an insulator. The electrons can’t make the jump from one side to the other.

Instead, the PNNL researchers turned to a process called solid-phase manufacturing, which uses a combination of shearing forces and friction at lower temperatures to layer the new carbon material into the metal. The key is to do this at a temperature that’s high enough for the aluminum to become flexible—in a so-called “plastic” state—but not molten. This allows Kappagantula to carefully control the distribution of the materials, which are then verified with computer simulations that model the atomic structures of the new alloys.

It will be a lengthy process to move those materials out of the lab. The team’s first step has been to produce wires made of the new alloys—first a few inches long, and then a few meters. Next they’ll create bars and sheets that can be run through a range of tests to make sure they’re not just more conductive, but also strong and flexible enough to be useful for industrial purposes. If it passes those tests, they’ll work with manufacturers to produce greater volumes of the alloy.

But to Kappagantula, reinventing the two-centuries-old process of making aluminum is worth the trouble. “We need a lot of copper, and we’re quickly going to be hitting shortages,” she says. “This research tells us that we’re on the true right path.”


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