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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 4

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 03 Feb 2014, 17:54:01

Repent wrote:What does it take to get the mainstream world to believe that 9/11 was an inside job:.... A 5 second interruption of a super bowl MVP interview

Yeah, about time...


The clown who interrupted the MVP news conference didn't make anyone "believe 9/11 was inside job" He was just another noob in the long line of quickly forgotten noobs who have tried to get 5 seconds of fame by interrupting TV interviews, jumping behind newscasters during live TV broadcasts, and running naked across football fields in the middle of games.

If you want people to believe 9/11 was inside job then go to court and prove your case. Jumping in front of TV interviews and screaming isn't going to convince anyone of anything. :roll:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 03 Feb 2014, 21:22:46

Indeed, he is lucky he didn't get snagged and tagged for disorderly conduct and creating a public nuisance. Or worse caught by some of the Seahawk fans who didn't take kindly to his interruption.
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 4

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 03 Feb 2014, 23:06:20

Plantagenet wrote:If you want people to believe 9/11 was inside job then go to court and prove your case.
The whole thing was decreed to be outside of court jurisdiction and handed to a politically appointed commission. The alleged perp may eventually be processed by a kangeroo court which is designed to prevent the facts from coming out.

I don't believe in any particular theories about 9/11, but I'm pretty sure what we have been officially told will eventually be shown to be BS, as with the propaganda from decades ago.
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 4

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 04 Feb 2014, 01:29:36

Keith_McClary wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:If you want people to believe 9/11 was inside job then go to court and prove your case.
The whole thing was decreed to be outside of court jurisdiction


Nothing is "outside of court jurisdiction." You can sue over anything.

Get a class action lawsuit together and sue the 9/11 conspirators for damages....that is, if you've got a case. :roll:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 4

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 04 Feb 2014, 01:50:31

Plantagenet wrote:
Keith_McClary wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:If you want people to believe 9/11 was inside job then go to court and prove your case.
The whole thing was decreed to be outside of court jurisdiction


Nothing is "outside of court jurisdiction." You can sue over anything.

Get a class action lawsuit together and sue the 9/11 conspirators for damages....that is, if you've got a case. :roll:
Some folks sued Iraq for 9/11 & won $billions but the gubmint tossed their damages by pres decree IIRC.

Yes, you can sue over anything. Name the gubmint as co-defendant and try compelling testimony about the redacted stuff. :lol:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun 23 Feb 2014, 22:21:30

The victims family group 'Press for truth' has released the following press statement, dated Feb.14, 2014:

Open letter for the world, dated February 14th , 2014.

Dear everybody with good hearts out there,

We don’t deserve your sympathy any longer, not for who we’ve been.” How can we get most everyone to read 1 simple sincere, yet discreet for our safety,pass-around type of open letter? ” That was our, a half-dozen relations of 5,2 men and 3 women, crushed into dust on September 11th , 2001, thought when we got together at alocal coffee shop close to the World Trade tower complex and decided weshouldn’t holdour silence any longer about what we have since learned. This is how we decided tospend this Valentine’s Day afternoon.Sure, we hated hearing anything worse at that time, for a long, long time. Notonly were our family members murdered, almost 3000, that horrible morning, but for the nextseveral years to see protesters occasionally marching with their ‘ 9-11 was an inside job.’ and “Investigate 9-11′ signs and t-shirts? We felt like they were rubbing salt into our wounds by implying that the president, the federal government, and all big media outlets were lying to us, even Oprah too? We didn’t even want to go there, to even think that something like that could be possible. Yet we did vent our anger at the people trying to get us to open our eyes to a bigger picture; who wanted us to reality-check and seek true justice, for all. But time did pass so furiously by itself, while we rather wanted to believe that Osama planned it all and was mysteriously hiding out in a far-away cave, for more than a decade. They also gave us some of your money in 2002, about 1 million to each of our families and that helped distract us from the harder, harsher, truth as well. But we have spent that long ago and now hardly nothing remains except a deeper and truer feeling of loss of members of our family than even before. We also regret, more and more these days, scorning the many others who have tried to get us to look beyond all the dust caused since that day.

Yes, and it was all staring at us in our faces the whole time, especially regarding the simple fact that 3 buildings fell straight down that day. All of you, and you know who you are, have been right. Building 7 was blown up demolition style; the laws of physics bar-out any other reason considering how that huge steel skyscraper fell into itself. That means that building was already prepared with explosives that same morning. Now those who still have samples of the dust of that day have confirmed explosive residue in it, especially thermite residue, in these bags of dust they have saved. Yes, we now know and are absolutely sure what happened on 9-11 was turned into one big lie, or better said false-narrative, and one of the biggest hoaxes the world has ever fell for. We also know why. For the wars, for the profits of the military corporations, for control of the oil and the heroin fields, and for making it possible to bankrupt the middle-class then fooling them more into military rule, all leading up to what appears to be more ‘false-flag’ attacks against our families, against our country’s heritage, against our constitution and rights, against the world’s people; as we have all slowly become victims, more and more, of state run murders, plots, and hoaxes hatched by our world establishment’s richest and most powerful control freaks.

We are no longer asking you for your abundant sympathy, we ask you for your forgiveness for being so quiet, for so long. Most of us do feel that way and we feel scared too. The world all over is now in a lot of trouble, we can see it daily, and we understand we mostly allowed this corrupt system that we all live inside, as much as or more than all of you, to get away with so much murder and so many wicked and long standing lies. If you do now understand and forgive us for our long held silence, we will forever thank you. If we were just going to thank a couple of people, all 6 of us feel the same, that we wish to thank Alex Jones for putting all the pieces of the bigger picture together so quickly; because the whole truth was available as far back as March 2002, with the release of his documentary, 9-11 The Road To Tyranny. And we also wish to thank Matthew Mills of “wearechange” Brooklyn for taking the microphone from Malcolm Smith during the Superbowl’s post-game MVP conference and saying to millions of people live in front of their televisions “911 was perpetrated by people in our own government and it needs to be investigated.” Thank you Alex and Matthew; how could we have allowed ourselves to be so blind and for so long? It really is mostly our, the 9-11 victims family’s and friend’s, responsibility to soon seek true justice, to now seek revenge against the real killers. We kindly ask for your help and support in attempting this. If you rally all around to our sides, and backs, we will take the stand when we can. You can help right now by quickly passing this letter around to everyone you know, either by photocopy or the internet.

Let’s trust in the security of each other altogether that most all of us will do this right away. After this, let’s surround them and take the power away from the real murderers and liars, and create a much better system for all of us, especially our children, to thrive within. We have so much to fix up, let’s get started. With a spirit like of Paul Revere, let’s copy everyone on this letter.

Let’s not give up.
Let’s do it now, and let’s keeping doing it.

- From a half-dozen family members, and friends, in a coffee shop near the World
Trade Center, on an especially chilly February 14th, 2014
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 23 Feb 2014, 23:29:26

9/11: Press for Truth follows three of the Jersey Girls, as well as some other family members in their search for answers about the September 11 attacks. Among their questions were:
1. "Why had the U.S. military defenses failed to stop any of the four hijacked planes?"
2. "Why was there a lack of immediate response by the president and his secret service detail?"
3. "Why did the buildings fall?"
4. "How did U.S. intelligence miss the escape of terrorists from Afghanistan to Pakistan during time of war?"
5. "Why did the U.S. consider Pakistan an ally in the fight against terrorism when Pakistan's own intelligence service, ISI, apparently was funding terrorism?"


1. The US policy with regard to plane hijackings in 2001 was to track planes---not to shoot them down.
2. There was an immediate response---the SS quickly whooshed to President to a secure location.
3. The buildings fell because they were severely damaged by the terrorist attack.
4. The US killed and captured hundreds of terrorists in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Many of them are still in Gitmo. Others escaped to Pakistan, Iran and other adjacent countries.
5. The US has friends as well as enemies in Pakistan.

Any other questions? :?:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 13:55:33

A new video came out today dealing with the 'No planes' theory about 9/11. The video also extensively makes the cases that all of the videos from 9/11 were faked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94 ... ilpage#t=1
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 14:08:05

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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 14:12:00

Repent wrote:all of the videos from 9/11 were faked.


And all the eyewitnesses? Where they also faked? :roll:

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Do you really believe all the 9/11 videos were faked? :roll:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 20:33:51

And all the eyewitnesses? Where they also faked?


Yes, they were paid shrills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... E8U#t=4093

Dozens and dozens of paid shrills
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 20:52:10

Repent wrote:
And all the eyewitnesses? Where they also faked?


Yes, they were paid shrills


So you think there were no planes at all and all the videos of 9/11 showing planes hitting the towers were faked and the all the eyewitnesses that saw the planes hit the WTC towers were paid shills.

And I assume you think all the analytical work done by government and private scientists was also faked. And the seismic data recorded on the Columbia University seismic network? Was that faked? And all the live reporting from all the networks was faked.

How curious. :roll:

I must say IMHO you are wrong. The evidence from multiple sources is too strong. Of course the hijacked planes hit the towers. :idea:
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun 30 Mar 2014, 21:52:17

I must say IMHO you are wrong. The evidence from multiple sources is too strong. Of course the hijacked planes hit the towers.


In my humble opinion you have been brainwashed by the establishment puppet controlled media and/ or you are complicit and directly involved with the events of 9/11 yourself.

In regards to your 'We'll they can sue' comments your have made before. Well now they have. Pilots for 9/11 truth have recently won a court 'Affidavit of fact' ruling that airplanes could not have penetrated the superstructure of WTC buildings:

http://the-tap.blogspot.ca/2014/03/ex-c ... -that.html

Unlike any other form of statement, an affidavit becomes truth in law, if it is not rebutted. It will now be up to critics of the theory to present their evidence and analysis to rebut the statement point by point. If they do not – or cannot – then the US government will be obliged to admit that the account given by the 9/11 Commission is wrong.
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Mon 31 Mar 2014, 00:02:25

Anyone who believes there were "no planes" or that ALL media reporting and video was faked must be summarily ignored in any discussion about 9/11.

There is a limit to credibility and sanity that has to be completely exceeded by people who believe this outlandish and ridiculous premise. There are FAR too many credible, documented, and factually supported witnesses to even begin to entertain this scenario. The numbers are in the THOUSANDS. In addition to that, the leap it takes to move beyond the MOUNTAINS of evidence which disprove this means they are INCAPABLE of deductive reason and display a bias which is STRONGLY lopsided towards conspiracy. People who believe this are not equipped with the proper emotional or intellectual tools to have a rational debate on the topic.

Dont waste your time Plant...seriously.
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby copious.abundance » Mon 31 Mar 2014, 20:47:58

I personally know at least two people who witnessed the 2nd plane crashing into the towers. One of them was at the PATH station in Hoboken, where you can get a clear view of the lower Manhattan skyline when you go above ground, and he told me there were, like, dozens of people there with him watching it. The other one I know said he saw the 2nd plane crash into it from his office window.

Literally hundreds of thousands of people must have witnessed it live and in person, especially the 2nd plane (the first one had to catch their attention, first, of course). Maybe even a million or so. Manhattan is a crowded place.
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 19 Jun 2014, 21:26:31

911 the new Pearl Harbor. Unreal 911 video. If you watch that and still believe the official story, you are either:

A) A moron
B) A Shill
C) Just don't want to believe
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Re: 9/11 Redux pt 5

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sat 12 Jul 2014, 19:05:10

A) A moron
B) A Shill
C) Just don't want to believe


I think the same is true of people who can look straight past evidence and press the ignore button. Yet another video came out today showing how ridiculous and full of holes the official story is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUoqwUV ... ilpage#t=4
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Re: American journalist beheaded by ISIS

Unread postby pana_burda » Sun 14 Sep 2014, 23:56:54

http://youtu.be/ts08e4BghVg

While at it .... refresh us why WTC 7 fell down on its own box. And where did those "weapons of mass destructions" were ever finnally found out down in Irak.
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Re: You Might Be A Fascist If…

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 19:37:40

Plantagenet wrote:
Keith_McClary wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... _Jerusalem
The Romans stomped the Zealots, but there were plenty of Jews in Palestine for centuries after these "wars".

Wikipedia is only as good as it's sources. They have very low standards for "reliable sources".


Then why are you relying on Wikipedia for your source? :lol:

Because that part has decent sources, perhaps.

Some Wiki articles have no sources at all. The "Jewish History" articles are sourced to the Bible. The 9/11 articles are heavily based on MSM stories which in turn are based on leaks (or plants) from anonymous "officials".
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