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Too Many People Heating Up the Planet

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The Trump Administration released the Fourth National Climate Assessment on Friday November 23, which concluded: “time is running out” to correct a coming climate catastrophe. Make no mistake about it, the only reason they released it at all is because publication was mandated by law.

The conclusions in Climate Assessment #4 are, to say the least, frightening. In the absence of global mitigation, the U.S. will experience regular extreme fires like the Thomas and Camp fires; more storms, hurricanes, and flooding; sea-level rise; decline in freshwater resources (due to drought); destruction of food production; disruption of energy and transposition systems; fuel shortages; public health threats (related to air-quality and insect spread diseases); disruption of international trade and increased threats to national security; and ecosystem decline. Economically, by the end of the century, unchecked climate change is predicted to cost the U.S.$500 billion per year annually.

President Trump’s response to his administration’s report was, “I don’t believe it.” He also insisted on a G20 statement reiterating his intent to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris Climate Accords; sent the administration’s energy and climate advisor to the follow-up climate forum in Poland to hold a side event to promote fossil fuels; announced his intent to end subsides for electric cars and renewables; and nominated a coal industry lobbyist to head the EPA. (Yikes!)

November 23, of course, was “Black Friday,” the day after Thanksgiving; a day when people (and the press) would predictably be distracted with holiday thoughts and bargain shopping. And, given the string of outrageous Trump-inspired stories since then (tear-gassing migrants including children at the southern border, Paul Manafort breaking his cooperation agreement with the Muller investigation, Michael Cohen confessing to lying to Congress about the president engaging with Russia during the 2016 campaign over a business deal, the president’s denial regarding Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s ordering the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, and more) reporting on the Climate Assessment passed out of the news cycle like a vanishing burst of wind. This is incredibly dangerous.

The Climate Assessment was authored by 13 federal agencies, including the National Science Foundation, NOAA, and NASA, with so many prominent climate scientists contributing (300) it would take the entire column to list them all. So, what we have here is a President of the United States denying science to the peril of not just 327,753,850 Americans, but the entire world. As frightening as this is, the climate discussion to date has ignored the “elephant in the room” — population.

Population growth has been taboo in relation to discussions of global climate change. At present the world’s population is estimated to be 7.669 billion. According to UN predictions, it could, at its present pace, reach 9.7 billion by 2050, and more than 11 billion people by 2100. While there is no consensus regarding Earth’s actual carrying capacity, some scientists believe we are already consuming the Earth’s renewable resources at one-and-a-half times the sustainable rate, even with billions of people consuming virtually nothing. On the other hand, there is scientific unanimity that 11 billon people consuming and emitting greenhouse gases consistent with American and European lifestyles is not sustainable. At the rate we are going, Earth’s temperature will far exceed the tipping point of an additional 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the 21st century, causing our ecosystems to collapse. This literally would be an existential threat to life on Planet Earth as we know it.

If we were honest about it, we would need to admit that the 200 countries focused on climate change are moving far too slowly. America (which ranks second behind China in greenhouse gas emissions) should be leading the charge to reverse climate change globally. We must find the courage to admit that population growth is an integral part of the climate change discussion. And recall that Mother Nature, whose superhuman powers we must surely respect and fear by now, warned us in a 1977 commercial, “It’s not nice to fool [with] Mother Nature.”

72 Comments on "Too Many People Heating Up the Planet"

  1. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 1:22 pm 

    I doubt anyone is fooled by me and my dirty behavior. I don’t give a shit about anyone but me. It is documented on this forums in my own words. I started these constant gaming feeds that only run people off but I am so obsessed with censoring Davy I can’t stop He kicked my ass intellectually so all I have left is denial of service type attacks IOW try to overwhelm Davy’s handle with fake comments. I am disgusting but I can’t help it I am mentally ill and dysfunctional.

  2. Anonymouse on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 1:24 pm 

    Juan, you forgot and a pervert and foul mouth.

  3. Makat1 on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 1:25 pm 

    Juan please stop I don’t feel safe here anymore.

  4. Davy on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 1:48 pm 

    I’ve said all of the above before too many times to count.

  5. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 2:12 pm 

    I said the above.

  6. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 2:14 pm 

    I am feeling depressed and suicidal too

  7. Davy on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 2:59 pm 

    Whoever gets the last word in wins the debate.


  8. Davy on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:06 pm 

    I’se so proud of myself today.

    Other then the two comments from Dredd, and one from Cloggie, all of the rest of the comments on the board right now are from me. And none of them are on topic.

  9. makati1 on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:18 pm 

    Juan, leave this board alone. Other people want to debate the issues not play your stupid mind games. Get some therepy instead. I once admired you now I don’t.

  10. DMyers on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:21 pm 

    “I am living on the beach with boney joe,” says JuanP. I take his reference to the kite as an insinuation that kite tail is the only tail he’s getting. In other words, JuanP is spilling his “seed” in the sand. He’s setting an example of what really works to reduce population. Ain’t no dirty magazine’s had a baby yet, right Juan?


    That’s a motto we can live with, for fewer but smarter human beings. Add to that,


    People love to comply with programs that are fun. This could improve overall prostate health at the same time.

    It goes to show that sometimes the answer is there already, right in our hands. La mano cada día por no bebés en María. Right Juan?
    I don’t think you can patent this practice, but you can still say you came up with the application.

  11. Cloggie on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:22 pm 

    What happens to this forum is on a micro-level exactly what happens with society at macro-level: destroyed from within, by human termites.

    “Climax” is next.

    There is something inevitable about jewish-gentile interaction.

  12. Davy on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:41 pm 

    See, I do know the difference between small m’s and big M’s. And you guys thought I was to stupid.

  13. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:46 pm 

    Cloggie, you are the queen termite per your definition.

  14. Davy on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 3:48 pm 

    After I finish running everyone off the board neder, I might let you stay. I like debating with you because I always win our debates. I don’t like people that are smarter then me.

  15. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 4:06 pm 

    The Collapse of Civilization Manifesto

  16. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 4:10 pm 

    Ron Paul: A 50% correction will spark depression-like conditions that may be ‘worse than 1929’

  17. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 4:12 pm 

    Davy, I started all this and I make sure the day gets going with this stupid gaming. I take credit becuase I rule this board along with my group of censorship pimps. Too bad they are falling like flies. Maybe this is why I try so hard. I feel beaten and the feeling of failure is clouding my mind.

  18. makati1 on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 4:36 pm 

    MOB, you can be sure that the new depression will be much worse than the one in 29′. The US has a lot farther to fall and an economy much more reliant on JIT deliveries of everything than in the 30s. Not to mention that, this time, the economy will not be coming back.

    In the 30s, most everyone had a farm in the family somewhere, and now, not so much. Starvation is more likely in the US than in many Asian countries for that reason alone. Collapse the system that subsidizes the corporate farms in the US and down goes the food chain.

    But hey! You and Davy claim that it is the rest of the world that will suffer more. LMAO!

  19. makati1 on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 4:41 pm 

    Perhaps Davy hasn’t noticed the time difference and thinks he can post me in the middle of my night. But then, we know he is not very sharp. 3:18PM on the board is 4:18AM here. See above. LOL

  20. JuanP on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 5:08 pm 


  21. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 5:14 pm 


    I am not going to suffer or eat out of a trash can..You know my plan..that is why I spent my savings of over 25k over the last five years..and took a year off work..and now I slack all day at work and break so many rules..

    I am living large now so when the collapse comes i can take the easy way out and have no regrets..

  22. makati1 on Sun, 16th Dec 2018 5:39 pm 

    MOB, I do feel sorry for you in the fact that you are so willing to give up your life. At your age, you should be prepping to make the future easier and to survive the coming storm, not suicide.

    What happens if, when the time comes, you cannot do it for some reason? Then you have wasted your advantage and will suffer even worse. I plan to survive and experience the event. The alternative is worse and final.

    There are better places to do so than in the US. I think I live in one of them. You could live here also, just get a cute, sexy Filipina wife and a job here. Seems to me that that would be better than …

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