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The Great Rehash, Part Two: The Future’s Cold Eyes

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Two weeks ago, as regular readers will recall, we discussed The Great Reset by Klaus Schwab and Thierry Malleret, the rest of the really rather dreary literature of planetary preaching in which that volume fills an overfamiliar role, and the usually disastrous consequences that follow when the clueless rich set out to tell the rest of us what the future ought to be. It may seem like a substantial leap from that subject to a collection of six bomb-damaged granite slabs in rural northeast Georgia, but the connection is there.

The Georgia Guidestones, before the bomb.

The Georgia Guidestones, to give the slabs their proper name, were a monument erected on a hilltop near Elberton, Georgia in 1979 and 1980, and were blown up by persons unknown last month. They were planned and paid for by an anonymous group acting through an individual who called himself R.C Christian, which he himself admitted was a pseudonym. He told local officials and businesses that he wanted a structure that would survive an impending catastrophe.

Following his instructions, a local firm carved the stones out of Elbert County’s abundant granite and put up the structure. It had various astronomical features—a hole drilled in the central slab that pointed to the Pole Star, for example—but what has attracted most attention to the Guidestones are the inscriptions in eight languages on the four main slabs. They proclaim the following commandments:

  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
  4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
  9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
  10. Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.
Herbert H. Kersten

Despite the efforts to maintain secrecy around the project, a little sleuthing on the part of investigative journalists has shown that the principal figure in the raising of the Guidestones was an Iowa surgeon named Herbert H. Kersten. A lifelong (though not very orthodox) Roman Catholic, Kersten was born in 1920 and spent most of his life in Fort Dodge, IA, where he raised a family, practiced in a clinic founded by his father, joined the Rotary Club, and was active in the Republican party. He died in 2005 after a struggle with Alzheimer’s disease.  His obituary in the Des Moines Register talked about his passionate interest in environmental and world population issues.

These details, however, only surfaced after Kersten’s death. Before the Guidestones were even set up, the idea of persons unknown handing down their own set of commandments to the future attracted a lot of attention. On the positive side, this brought tourists to a corner of the United States that could definitely use some additional income—around 20,000 visitors a year on average. On the other side of the balance, the Guidestones quickly became the focus of a flurry of conspiracy theories and fundamentalist Christian denunciations; some writers and speakers referring to the edicts on the stones as “the ten commandments of the Antichrist.”

It’s hardly my place to tell Christians what to believe about the Antichrist, granted, but I have to admit if the Antichrist were to show up in person and proclaim some commandments, I’d expect to see much more in favor of sexual depravity and the other six deadly sins and a good deal less about truth, beauty, and love. The ten precepts on the Guidestones sound a lot more like what you would expect from an educated twentieth century American with a bee in his bonnet about overpopulation and environmental causes—a man, that is, very like Herbert H. Kersten.

A Rosicrucian emblem. Notice the lack of granite slabs.

It does not sound, in particular, like anything you would see from the Rosicrucian scene. That’s at issue here because the pseudonym used by Kersten looks a lot like the name of Christian Rosenkreutz (“Christian Rosycross”), the legendary founder of the Rosicrucians, which is often abbreviated C.R.C.  That detail led one faction of conspiracy theorists to insist that the stones had been erected by evil Rosicrucians for some sinister purpose. As it happens, like a lot of American occultists, I’ve been initiated in several Rosicrucian orders and I know the literature well, and I’ve never seen anything like the text of the Guidestones anywhere in Rosicrucian literature. Quite the contrary:  if Rosicrucians had written the thing, it would gently recommend prayer, meditation, and reverence toward the Supreme Being, rather than handing down preachments about world languages and government officials.

That said, I’m not at all surprised that the Guidestones attracted the instant hostility of so many ordinary Americans, and that one or more of those Americans took their hostility to the point of setting off a bomb.  Let’s start by taking another look at the precepts on the stones, with an eye toward their context rather than their content. Who is being addressed with these commandments?  And who is addressing them?

If you know your way around twentieth century postapocalyptic science fiction you’ll have no trouble figuring out these details. One of the most persistent tropes in that genre is the notion that people in a postcollapse America will think that their precollapse ancestors were gods. You can find this notion in full spate in one of the first and greatest works in the genre, Stephen Vincent Benét’s 1937 short story “By The Waters of Babylon,” which imagines a bold young man, the son of a tribal priest, making his way down the Hudson (“Ou-dis-son”) River to the legendary Place of the Gods, which is of course Manhattan.

Stephen Vincent Benét, writing postnuclear fiction before there were nukes.

The same gimmick appears with dreary predictability in many less competent contributions to the genre. The brutish, skin-clad tribal peoples of the American future, the assumption was, would look at the remains of modern American skyscrapers, recall legends of airplanes and cars, and convince themselves that only gods could have done such great works. It’s an interesting testimony to the collective egotism of our time, and it also reveals an embarrassing ignorance of the common themes of Dark Age cultures.

It’s quite common, after all, for peoples living amid the ruins of an extinct civilization to come to believe that those ruins—so much vaster than anything they themselves can produce—must have been put there by other-than-human entities. It’s not the gods, however, who get credited with such feats.  In Anglo-Saxon England, for example, Roman ruins were assigned to the ettins or giants, the enemies of the gods. In archaic ancient Greece, similarly, the Dorian tribes who settled among the ruins of the Mycenean civilization assigned the great stone buildings they saw around them to the Cyclopes, one-eyed giants as powerful as they were wicked. (Big ancient buildings made of very large stones are still called “cyclopean.”)

Understand the language of mythology and you can follow very quickly what was being said here. Storytelling is humanity’s oldest information storage and retrieval technology, and it’s still one of the most effective, having been honed by our hominid ancestors for millennia: if you want knowledge to survive, turn it into a vivid story full of colorful symbols and incidents, tell it to children when they’re of an age to want to hear the same thing countless times, and they’ll be able to repeat it word for word to their own grandchildren most of a lifetime into the future. The requirements of the technology impose certain distortions on the data, but the important information generally gets through.

When a Saxon grandmother told her grandchildren lively tales about the terrible ettins who built mighty halls of stone in the old days, before Thunor smote them with lightning, what was she saying?  Her message was as straightforward as it was important:  there were people who lived here before us, more powerful than we are today, and more evil.  They were the enemies of the gods, and the gods destroyed them. Do not live the way they did.

The ruins of a society that collapsed because it ignored environmental limits. Yes, there are plenty of other examples.

Some similar message is far more likely to be passed on by our descendants than the one that the popular fiction of the last century imagined.  Grant for a moment that modern American society crashes to ruin over the next few centuries, following the usual trajectory of civilizations on their way to history’s compost heap. Grant that the decline and fall has the usual effects: population drops to 5% or so of the precollapse peak, most technology and information resources are lost, literacy becomes a rare skill, and a long and bitter dark age settles over the land. The people of that future time will use storytelling the same way every other illiterate culture has done—it’s apparently hardwired into human brains at this point, after so many generations of evolutionary selection in its favor. What stories will they tell about us?

If you think the stories in question will be the sort of thing that would allow us to preen our egos if we happened to hear them, think again. The people of that age, after all, will mostly be descended (as the people of dark age societies are always mostly descended) from rural populations far from the centers of power and wealth, either in the imperial nation our outside its borders—people who never had the chance to forget how to feed themselves by their own efforts and get by during hard times.  They’ll have little reason to remember the good parts of the industrial age at its zenith, and much more reason to remember the bad. So, no, they won’t remember us as gods. They’ll remember us as a evil, powerful, but doomed race of beings who offended the gods, and were destroyed for our sins by some future equivalent of the thunder-weapon of Thunor.

“Back in the ancient days, there were these people called Consumers…”

Imagine, with this in mind, an alternate future in which the Georgia Guidestones didn’t get wrecked by a bomb. A millennium from now, the site of the monument is surrounded by cow skulls on poles, warning of the terrible spiritual evil emanating from this place built by the ancient giants. Talk to the tribal priest in the thriving little town that stands where Elberton is today, and he’ll explain to you earnestly that the ancients wrote baleful words on the sides of the stones, words whose meaning no one remembers any more. Even to gaze at the words is to risk falling under a curse; to try to decipher them…  He shudders visibly.

A thousand years further on, as some new age of reason gathers strength—those are a common feature in the history of every civilization, after all—the passionately held superstitions of the tribal priest will have given way to more nuanced and reasoned views, but that change won’t necessarily improve our reputation any. Imagine two savants of that future era walking up to the Guidestones and considering them. Ancient English is tolerably well known by the learned in those days, and the two of them have no difficulty reading the inscription. One turns to the other and says, “That didn’t work out very well for them, did it?”  The other raises an eyebrow and says, “I’m reminded of one of their proverbs:  ‘do as I say, not as I do.’” They share a mordant laugh, and then one gets to work sketching the ruin while the other walks a short distance away and gazes over the landscape, musing over the ironies of history.

I’ve thought for quite some time that the reason why our culture is so fascinated with notions of imminent apocalypse is that so many people in our elite classes are horrified by the thought of scenes like the ones I’ve sketched out above. The chronological snobbery that leads people these days to insist that we’re smarter than their ancestors, for the mere reason that we live after them, has a sting in its tail: our descendants, after all, might reasonably take the same attitude toward us. The thought that we might be judged by the cold eyes of the future according to our actions, not according to our fond self-dramatizations, is a bitter pill to swallow—not least because the world industrial civilization is leaving to the future is a steaming mess, and we will be judged accordingly by those who come after us. Thus the fascination with claims that everyone is going to die, so we don’t have to worry about that.

“The ruins were made by ancient giants, powerful and evil. Do not live like them.”

Nor should the Georgia Guidestones be exempt from the judgments of the future. The text on the stones, after all, is a summary of a particular set of values espoused by a sizable fraction of the American intelligentsia in the twentieth century. Exactly how much good did those values do to keep us from our self-destructive trajectory?  For that matter, we’ve become wearily familiar with the ways that rhetoric all too similar to Kersten’s ten postapocalyptic commandments has being used, and is being used now, to defend absurd concentrations of wealth and brutal abuses of power. That’s the kind of rhetoric on the lips of Klaus Schwab and his friends, as they insist the rest of us have to eat bugs and shiver in the dark so that they can dine on filet mignon in well-heated mansions and fly to lavish conferences in private jets.

Thus we circle back to Schwab’s Great Rehash—that is to say, his attempt to insist that the rest of us have to listen reverently to the latest bursts of cerebral flatulence coming from the current iteration of “the best and the brightest.” Schwab and his absurdly overpaid cronies clearly want to be the ones handing down commandments on tables of stone, with the rest of us assigned the role of grunting, primitive tribespeople gazing in awe at the words written by the gods. I frankly doubt they’re capable of realizing that the respect they get from anyone who isn’t angling for cash from them can best be measured in imaginary numbers. I don’t think it has entered their darkest dream just how deeply most people despise them.

A helpful reminder of an unwelcome reality.

With this in mind, I’m not at all surprised that the Guidestones attracted the hostility of so many ordinary Americans. Those ten rules are exactly the sort of vague abstractions that have been used to justify wave after wave of incompetent meddling in economic political affairs by intellectuals who have no clue what they’re doing. “The best and the brightest” used a bevy of such slogans to justify their policies in Vietnam, and the Club of Rome and the World Economic Forum have brandished plenty of similar rhetoric in their turn.

My take, in effect, is that too many Americans encountered the slogans on the Georgia Guidestones and recognized, from long and weary experience, the preachy tone and vacuous content that normally accompanies each new round of corporate-bureacratic attempts to inflict the latest intellectual fads on their lives and communities. They expressed that recognition in languages the elites of our time refuse to speak—the language of conservative religion on the one hand, and the language of conspiracy theory on the other—because that kept the bosses and their flacks out of the conversation. The fact that someone was willing to take the risk of blowing up the Guidestones in the face of the legal penalties offers fair warning that the ongoing impoverishment and immiseration of ordinary Americans at the hands of the current system may have a more potent blowback than the beneficiaries of that system want to face.

That said, the Georgia Guidestones were a tourist draw to a county that needs the income, and of course they also appeal to my Druidical fondness for standing stones. I’d like to suggest, on the off chance that anyone from Elbert County, Georgia is reading this, that the county might seriously want to consider running a GoFundMe campaign to rebuild the Guidestones.  This time, however, they might have the people of Elbert County vote on what words, if any, they want engraved on the granite slabs of the new monument.

Elberton, Georgia. The future is being made there, too.

And if, dear reader, your first reaction to this suggestion is to come up with some snide putdown or other about what will go on the stones if this happens, I have two suggestions for you. The first, to borrow a bit of currently fashionable liberal jargon, is that maybe you should check your privilege, and ask yourself why it’s so important to your emotional life to feel superior to the decent, hardworking folk of Elbert County. The second is that if you really can’t stand the thought that Georgia farmers are going to have a chance to offer some suggestions to the future, maybe you and your friends should raise the money and put up a set of Guidestones yourselves, and engrave whatever you want onto them. After all, you have as much right to address the future as they do:  as much, and no more.

Ecosophia by John Michael Greer



37 Comments on "The Great Rehash, Part Two: The Future’s Cold Eyes"

  1. Elbert On on Thu, 4th Aug 2022 9:42 am 

    The Arch Blovinator farts again.

  2. FamousDrScanlon on Thu, 4th Aug 2022 1:39 pm 

    Big Oil Sees Record Profits As The World Burns
    Chevron, Exxon and Shell have already brought in over $70 billion in profits in 2022.

    “Other oil companies, too, are posting record profits for Q2. Norwegian oil giant Equinor saw profits of $17.6 billion, up 244% from this time last year. San Antonio’s Valero experienced a 1,673% boost this quarter and New York-based Hess saw an 800% increase in profits.

    The past several months, Americans have been hit with record-high gas prices, which stretched an already strained working class due to record inflation rates in other areas. Rising rents, utilities, commodities and food prices have brought millions of Americans to the brink. Food banks have reported drastic increases in foot traffic, families have reported skipping meals and forgoing other necessities, and overall a vast majority of working people say their wages are falling behind the cost of living.”

    https://neverleave.substack.com/p/big-oil-sees-record-profits-as-the

    You can vote for these big oil cunts in your next election. Just vote for Biden, Trump or whatever old white Boomer fuck they have running.

    German Oil Refiner Is Seeing ‘Run on Heating Oil and Diesel’

    OMV Germany suspends fuel loadings from two storage sites

    River Rhine is getting shallower, making fuel delivery harder

    “There’s also been a pivot toward using oil to generate power with Munich using diesel-like fuel for that purpose as Russia pipes less natural gas into the country.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-04/oil-refiner-omv-germany-seeing-run-on-heating-oil-and-diesel#xj4y7vzkg

    Fog et wizard you are living in The Limits To Growth. I doubt anyone around here has ever not had electricity heat on demand and refrigeration, washer, dryer, dishwasher, cars, toys galore, digital toys galore etc. It’s all going bye bye, just not all at once.

    The silly ‘great reset’ is a response to hitting the limits to growth. The fantasy of a gaggle of deluded spoiled white Boomers whose time is almost up. Cartoon super villain Klaus Schawb is no real threat. He has minimal power and will not advise the Davos crowd to attempt anything they have not heard or thought of before.

    Whatever responses the super elites come up with from now until the end will be self serving bull shit. Most humans cling to whatever authority makes them feel safest or less scared shit-less, but they are just clinging to emotions. Humans emotions are the very worst gauge of reality.

    Hot-N-bothered is the future which is happening now.

    “July 2022 was the hottest month on records for some US cities, many of them in Texas.

    “Really mind blowing the persistent record heat in Galveston:

    hottest April, hottest May, hottest June and now hottest July & hottest month on record.”

    https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1554171341028429826

    “July 2022 was the hottest month ever recorded in Tampa [Florida]…

    “…the main contributor to the record heat was the warmer than usual overnight low temperatures. Tampa has recorded its hottest consecutive two months on record since record-keeping began in 1890.”

    https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/weather/2022-08-01/july-2022-hottest-month-tampa

    “Salt Lake City saw its hottest July on record — again… Utah’s capital set a record for the most 100-degree days in the month…

    “Overall, the average temperature in Utah’s capital last month was 87.3 degrees — 6.2 degrees above normal, and 1.6 degrees higher than in July 2021, the previous record-holder.”

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2022/08/01/july-was-hottest-record-salt/

  3. FamousDrScanlon on Thu, 4th Aug 2022 2:06 pm 

    A movie turned TV series about human caused climate Doom. Too funny

    Snowpiercer set shuts down due to extreme heat

    “Large swaths of the world are currently experiencing brutal heat waves, including in places where the people are not used to very high temperatures, like England and parts of Canada. It’s gotten to the point where we’ve started to name heat waves like we name hurricanes. As long as climate change marches on, we can count on more disasters like this becoming an everyday part of life. Hello, out-of-control wildfires. Hey there, coastal-towns-sinking-into-the-sea. What a time to be alive!

    At least the forces of the apocalypse have a sense of irony; Deadline reports that Snowpiercer, a show about a group of people trying to survive in a world that has become inhospitably cold, has shut down production on its fourth and final season early because as many as 14 people — both crew members and background actors — had to be hospitalized for heat exhaustion. This particular outdoor set was in British Columbia, which is being racked by wildfires and extreme heat.”

    https://winteriscoming.net/2022/08/01/snowpiercer-set-shuts-down-extreme-heat/

  4. FamousDrScanlon on Thu, 4th Aug 2022 2:44 pm 

    I always thought Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble erected the guide stones on a long weekend while Wilma and Betty set up the campsite, cooked some Brontosaurus burgers while watching Pebbles and Bam Bam and Dino play hide-N-seek.

    It’s fucking crazy watching Americans who already live in a fantasy world of their own creation pile on fantasy after fantasy. Insatiable!

    Manifest destiny (LOL destined to history’s fastest collapse))

    Georgia Guide Stones

    Mormonism

    Various Space aliens with anal probes and evil agendas.

    1000 New Age Hippy woo woo bull shit fantasies that have yet to stop.

    Consumerism as purpose of life.

    Capitalism as reason earth exists and all else is evil incarnate.

    Being American (cult)

    Technology worship that has birthed numerous denominations.

    Americans are the believing people. They can’t get enough otherly world and super natural horse shit to believe in.
    Insatiable!

    https://youtu.be/uq7noaMwLfg

  5. makati1 on Thu, 4th Aug 2022 5:58 pm 

    I always like the Archdruid’s observations. They come from a fresh direction, unlike the shit spewed by most of the comment posters here. I also appreciate Theedrich’s perspective. If you do not look at real world from many perspectives, you only see what you want to see, which is the narrow minded disease killing the US.

  6. FamousDrScanlon on Fri, 5th Aug 2022 11:40 am 

    “Billionaires and the groups they fund are working to rewrite the U.S. Constitution to provide corporations and the rich with more protections and benefits while prohibiting programs like Social Security, Medicare and food stamps as “unconstitutional socialism.”

    https://truthout.org/articles/republican-state-legislators-have-an-ominous-plan-to-rewrite-the-us-constitution/

    Carlin predicted it 15 years ago.

    “…now they’re coming for your Social Security money they want your retirement money they want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street..”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUaqFzZLxU&t=1s

    Good luck voting for your next pre approved puppet. Don’t forget your Vaseline and knee pads.

  7. FamousDrScanlon on Fri, 5th Aug 2022 1:02 pm 

    mak, narrow mindedness is probably contributing to American decline, but it’s more of an irritant and consequence of decline not a root cause of anything. It don’t even make my top 50 list. Fossil fuels make more of a difference than any individual or billion individuals.

    Do you know who I see as narrow minded? People who make the same 4-5 self assured (100%)statements over and over and when the ideas are challenged make the same 3-4 ad homs – “you need meds” “You are brainwashed” “bla bla bla”. That’s pretty much the bulk of your sharingfor a whole fucking decade.

    Oh I wanted to ask you if you like the Wizard Greer because he dresses up in robes that look similar to your Mormon magic underwear get up?

    I like wizards.

    How about the energy cost of energy(ECOE)? rising.

    Oil, gas & coal = plastic, steel, concrete & ammonia. With out these products there is no techno industrial civilization even if all 8 billion become super open minded gurus.

    How To Enjoy The End Of The World

    “A series of videos on the present and continuing collapse of global industrial civilization. We examine the nature of our civilization, the causes of its collapse…”

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNcGo6a-yKuIubvDb6mIyd0KHQ-7UasJH

    How the World Really Works

    Vaclav Smil

    “We have never had so much information at our fingertips and yet most of us don’t know how the world really works. This book explains seven of the most fundamental realities governing our survival and prosperity. From energy and food production, through our material world and its globalization, to risks, our environment and its future, How the World Really Works offers a much-needed reality check – because before we can tackle problems effectively, we must understand the facts.In this ambitious and thought-provoking book we see, for example, that globalization isn’t inevitable – the perils of allowing 70 per cent of the world’s rubber gloves to be made in just one factory became glaringly obvious in 2020 – and that our societies have been steadily increasing their dependence on fossil fuels, making their complete and rapid elimination unlikely. For example, each greenhouse-grown supermarket-bought tomato requires the equivalent of five tablespoons of diesel oil for its production; and we still lack any commercially viable ways of making steel, ammonia, cement or plastics on the scale required globally without fossil fuels.Vaclav Smil is neither a pessimist nor an optimist, he is a scientist; he is the world-leading expert on energy and an astonishing polymath. This is his magnum opus and a continuation of his quest to make facts matter. Drawing on the latest science, including his own fascinating research, and tackling sources of misinformation head on – from Yuval Noah Harari to Noam Chomsky – ultimately Smil answers the most profound question of our age: are we irrevocably doomed or is a brighter utopia ahead? Compelling, data-rich and revisionist, this wonderfully broad, interdisciplinary masterpiece finds faults with both extremes. Looking at the world through this quantitative lens reveals hidden truths that change the way we see our past, present and uncertain future.”

    https://b-ok.cc/book/19316655/d6f212

    “are we irrevocably doomed or is a brighter utopia ahead? ”

    Somehow I don’t think an attitude adjustment is going to change anything.

    Thanks for sharing and try to keep an open mind.

  8. makati1 on Fri, 5th Aug 2022 4:29 pm 

    Famous, you just keep proving my narrow mindedness assertion. “Oh I wanted to ask you if you like the Wizard Greer because he dresses up in robes that look similar to your Mormon magic underwear get up?”

    My Mormon years ended long ago. That was to please my wife at the time. She still believes, which was one of the reasons for the parting. Another example of dumbed down Amerikans.

    Amerikans want to believe anything that makes them feel good, like: Amerika is the best place to live, Social Security will always be there, that there are two political parties, that Amerika is a Democracy, that inflation is only temporary, that Zombie Biden really runs the country, etc. The fantasies just keep on going. I lose track. Is fentanyl or crack the drug of the month?

    BTW: If I said that gravity works five time or fifty, does that mean I am wrong because some government paid university drones say I am? There are so many paid-off authors of propaganda today that they outnumber the honest by multiples. But just look around with open eyes and mind and see reality. Not easy to do when you are trapped in the box.

  9. Biden’s hairplug on Fri, 5th Aug 2022 11:58 pm 

    Alex Jones ordered to pay huge fine:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62444302

    “Alex Jones must pay $50m for Sandy Hook hoax claim“

    Without Alex Jones, Trump would not have become president. Expect this ruling to further increase political polarization in the US… until somebody lits the fuse (probably Xi).

  10. Biden’s hairplug on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 1:10 am 

    Bad political omen: lightning strikes White House, three dead.

    https://youtu.be/ff9x9K42EqQ

  11. Theedrich on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 2:21 am 

    From Michael Hudson (https://thesaker.is/american-diplomacy-as-a-tragic-drama/)

    “The basic U.S. policy has been to threaten to destabilize countries and perhaps bomb them until they agree to adopt neoliberal policies and privatize their public domain.  But taking on Russia, China and Iran is a much higher order of magnitude.  NATO has disarmed itself of the ability to wage conventional warfare by handing over its supply of weaponry — admittedly largely outdated — to be devoured in Ukraine.  In any case, no democracy in today’s world can impose a military draft to wage a conventional land warfare against a significant/major adversary.  The protests against the Vietnam War in the late 1960s ended the U.S. military draft, and the only way to really conquer a country is to occupy it in land warfare.  This logic also implies that Russia is no more in a position to invade Western Europe than NATO countries are to send conscripts to fight Russia.

    “That leaves Western democracies with the ability to fight only one kind of war:  atomic war — or at least, bombing at a distance, as was done in Afghanistan and the Near East, without requiring Western manpower.  This is not diplomacy at all.  It is merely acting the role of wrecker.  But that is the only tactic that remains available to the United States and NATO Europe.  It is strikingly like the dynamic of Greek tragedy, where power leads to hubris that is injurious to others and therefore ultimately anti-social — and self-destructive in the end.

    “How then can the United States maintain its world dominance?  It has deindustrialized and run up foreign official debt far beyond any foreseeable way to be paid.  Meanwhile, its banks and bondholders are demanding that the Global South and other countries pay foreign dollar bondholders in the face of their own trade crisis resulting from the soaring energy and food prices caused by America’s anti-Russian and anti-China belligerence.  This double standard is a basic internal contradiction that goes to the core of today’s neoliberal Western worldview.”

    But Americans like suicide.

  12. Hello on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 6:50 am 

    >>>> Amerikans want to believe anything that makes them feel good, like: Amerika is the best place to live,

    How is that any different from you believing your slum hole is the best place to live?

    You are hands down one of the dumbest posters here.

  13. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 3:52 pm 

    France is facing its ‘most severe drought’ ever, PM to activate government crisis unit

    “…many areas in France were going through a “historic situation” as the country endured its third heatwave this summer.

    “The exceptional drought we are currently experiencing is depriving many municipalities of water and is a tragedy for our farmers, our ecosystems and biodiversity,”

    “French energy giant EDF said on Friday it had to temporarily cut power production at two nuclear plants that use river water to cool reactors.

    The group warned that at least one more plant could be affected in the coming days due to high temperatures in the Rhone river.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-06/france-facing-biggest-drought-in-history/101307742

  14. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 4:06 pm 

    It appears anti-vaxxer messaging has had an effect.

    New York Health Department says hundreds of people may be infected with polio virus

    “Just two weeks ago, the New York Health Department reported the nation’s first case of polio in almost a decade, in Rockland County, north of New York City. Officials said that case occurred in a previously healthy young adult who was unvaccinated and developed paralysis in their legs.”

    “Based on earlier polio outbreaks, New Yorkers should know that for every one case of paralytic polio observed, there may be hundreds of other people infected,”

    “Before the polio vaccine was introduced in the 1950s, thousands of Americans died in polio outbreaks and tens of thousands, many of them children, were left with paralysis. After a successful vaccination campaign, polio was officially declared eradicated in the U.S. in 1979.”

    The vaccine is 99% effective in children who receive the full four-dose regime, health officials said.

    “It is concerning that polio, a disease that has been largely eradicated through vaccination,..”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/polio-virus-hundreds-of-infections-possible-new-york-health-department/

    Someone call Alex Jones. Hero Alex needs to let people know that the so called paralyzed polio victims are just crisis actors hired by big Pharma

    All good anti-vaxxers know there is no such thing as polio….. or any viruses.

  15. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 4:16 pm 

    Extinct Pathogens Ushered The Fall of Ancient Civilizations, Scientists Say

    “In remains excavated from an ancient burial site on Crete, in a cave called Hagios Charalambos, a team led by archaeogeneticist Gunnar Neumann of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany found genetic evidence of bacteria responsible for two of history’s most significant diseases – typhoid fever and plague.

    Therefore, the researchers said, widespread illnesses caused by these pathogens cannot be discounted as a contributing factor in the societal changes so widespread around 2200 to 2000 BCE.”

    https://www.sciencealert.com/thousands-of-years-ago-plague-may-have-helped-the-decline-of-an-ancient-civilization

    So now archeologists are in on Big Pharma’s infectious diseases—> sell vaccines hoax. Big Pharma’s evil badness knows no limits.
    Don’t fall for it Br!. Refuse all vaccines. Kids too.

    Btw, Tylenol is a scam. Headaches don’t exist. Head aches were made up by Big Pharma’s propaganda department to sell you Tylenol.

    Don’t fall for it Bro!

  16. makati1 on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 4:54 pm 

    Hello, don’t look now but your ignorance is showing. Fear is a terrible thing when you have to defend a war mongering, kleptocracy because you live there and cannot leave. So be it.

    Since you probably have never been outside your basement, you have zero real knowledge of anywhere else in the world. Only propaganda makes anyone believe the US is a good place to live, but the world is fast learning the truth. Thousands are leaving the US every year for a better place.

    At the moment, it maybe slightly better than Bangladesh, but it is fast sliding down the ladder to the undeveloped world, or worse. If it succeeds in starting a big war, US cities will look like Hiroshima on August 7th, 1945. But since education is so dumbed down in the US now, you probably have no idea what I am talking about.

    “The U.S. government doesn’t formally track how many Americans leave the U.S. but the most recent estimate puts the figure at nearly nine million. This figure represents a doubling of the 1999 figure, placed at 4.1 million. The number of expats has more than doubled in the last fifteen years — a number growing faster than the rate of the U.S. population itself.” Smart people are getting out.

    https://www.aetnainternational.com/en/about-us/explore/living-abroad/culture-lifestyle/where-are-Americans-emigrating-to-and-why.html

    Enjoy what is coming to Amerika.

  17. makati1 on Sat, 6th Aug 2022 4:56 pm 

    “Bad political omen: lightning strikes White House, three dead.”

    If there is a god, it would be Biden, Harris and Pelosi.

  18. Dennis on Sun, 7th Aug 2022 7:14 am 

    All of this begs the question: Who will be the last one standing?

  19. Biden's hairplug on Sun, 7th Aug 2022 9:30 am 

    https://twitter.com/UBERSOY1/status/1555752658752913415?s=20&t=H1DjzfxdBVv7AZfgft9XNQ

    [0:26] – “on behalf of 800 million jews”

  20. FamousDrScanlon on Sun, 7th Aug 2022 1:23 pm 

    1 in 8 adults end up with long COVID, new Dutch study finds

    “Long COVID refers to any of more than two dozens symptoms that linger, recur or first appear at least one month after a coronavirus infection. These can affect all parts of the body and may include fatigue, shortness of breath, brain fog and blood clots.”

    Read more: Older adults face higher risks for long COVID, shots don’t prevent it: U.S. study

    https://globalnews.ca/news/9041926/dutch-study-long-covid-symptoms/

    Boomer anti-vaxxers in pain & suffering every waking moment until dead – Priceless!

  21. Biden's hairplug on Sun, 7th Aug 2022 3:59 pm 

    Boomer anti-vaxxers in pain & suffering every waking moment until dead – Priceless!”

    You don’t even understand the text you yourself post:

    “Older adults face higher risks for long COVID, shots don’t prevent it: U.S. study

    Stupid, satanic and sadistic, that’s our misfit from Vancouver and member of the World Plague.

  22. FamousDrScanlon on Sun, 7th Aug 2022 4:20 pm 

    The fate of Alex Jones is a small battle won in the war against alternative facts

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/07/fate-alex-jones-small-battle-war-against-alternative-fact-sandy-hook

    Ba ha ha stupid fucking white man piece of shit.

    I was hoping one or more of the parents would have taken a bat to Jones head – no judge or jury would give them any thing more than a slap on the wrist.

    poor clog is confused again

  23. Biden's hairplug on Mon, 8th Aug 2022 4:49 am 

    “The fate of Alex Jones is a small battle won”

    And a big step towards CW2, that’s all that matters.

    https://parisberlinmoscow.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/the-unraveling-of-the-united-states/

    And again the trajectory:

    1. a beating for the US in East-Asia
    2. CW2
    3. Balkenization of America
    4. white parts US incorporated into global Eurosphere as a junior partner of Paris-Berlin-Moscow

    It’s not rocket science, geopolitics.

  24. Biden’s hairplug on Mon, 8th Aug 2022 9:39 am 

    Sky News Australia makes a little too much fun of Joe Biden:

    https://youtu.be/LnYNlSnl5G4

    And then there is the ever pompous British “conservative” Douglas Murray, who for the life of him can’t imagine that the US empire could suffer the same fate as the British Empire of former fame (which died at the hands of the Americans and their Churchill agent). Let alone that the Aussies commit exactly the blunder that their elder statesman Malcolm Fraser earned against, namely of being too close to the US and volunteer to play a Ukraine-2.0 role and go under accordingly, terminating Anglo Australia and giving it a future as a member the Chinese, instead of the Dutch, British and US empire resp.

    As we speak, China plays a blockade game, that might or might not last 30 days, the time required for the island to consume its resources.

    China could also be inspired by the example Russia, that apparently is going to prevail in Ukraine against US objectives. Why would 10 times bigger China exercise in restraint, if this “gas station masquerading as a country” gives the good example?

  25. FamousDrScanlon on Wed, 10th Aug 2022 5:22 pm 

    Record Death Valley flooding ‘a once-in-1,000-year event’

    Hundreds were marooned in the downpour as the climate crisis increases the likelihood of extreme weather

    “…events like this one, once thought to be exceedingly rare, are on the rise. Scientists are finding that weather extremes, fueled by the climate crisis, are becoming more likely in the American west, which continues to be mired in drought. Periods of dryness are expected to be broken with strong, destructive storms as the world continues to warm.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/10/death-valley-floods-climate-crisis

    We all walking in the valley of death now.

  26. FamousDrScanlon on Wed, 10th Aug 2022 5:31 pm 

    Switzerland’s melting glaciers: drone footage reveals impact of climate crisis – video

    Glaciers in Switzerland have been receding due to the impact of the climate crisis. After a winter with relatively little snowfall, the Swiss Alps have already experienced two severe summer heatwaves in 2022. In July, authorities advised alpinists against scaling the Matterhorn because of the unusually high temperatures, which reached almost 30C in Zermatt. Archival footage shows the scale of change happening to the glaciers

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/aug/10/switzerland-melting-glaciers-drone-footage-reveals-impact-climate-crisis-video

    I luvs me sum drone footage. It’s totally worth losing freedom & being surveilled I know not where. Cool videos make my dopamine squirt and that is all that matters.

  27. FamousDrScanlon on Fri, 12th Aug 2022 12:49 pm 

    Satellites confirm: sea level rise is picking up speed

    https://www.earth.com/video/satellites-confirm-sea-level-rise-is-picking-up-speed/

  28. world supremacist muzzies unite on Fri, 12th Aug 2022 12:53 pm 

    supertards plese change ur undies after 2 weeks

    muzzie attacked salmon rushdie

    please be ease we are lovers of supremacist muzzies

  29. salman rushdie is stabbed by world supremacist muzzies unite on Fri, 12th Aug 2022 7:25 pm 

    poor salmon rushdie

    supertards plese change ur undies after 2 weeks.

    please be ease we love muzzies

  30. suxs on Fri, 12th Aug 2022 11:21 pm 

    Mad Kat —

    For someone who claims not to care about the “US failed state”, your actions tell a different story, particularly as it relates to your dependence on US Government monthly subsidy payments.

    Cloggie —

    Jones was found guilty by a jury trial, although I understand why you use wording such as “ruling” so as to infer a false narrative that supports your agenda.

  31. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 13th Aug 2022 12:53 pm 

    clog, tell me more about Euro-lands wonderful future.

    Photos show the wreckage of a 1968 plane crash unearthed by melting glaciers in the Swiss Alps

    Glacial melt in the Swiss Alps has unearthed human remains and the wreckage of a historic plane crash.
    Rising temperatures due to climate change are causing glaciers to thaw and recede.

    https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-6-000-glaciers-china-172611778.html

    500-year-old ‘goatelope’ mummy found in melting European glacier

    The small chamois, a kind of goat-antelope, may herald more spectacular finds to come this summer—another Ötzi the Iceman?—as glaciers in the Alps melt at a record-breaking pace.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/500-year-old-goatelope-mummy-found-in-melting-european-glacier

    clog, I was going to suggest you invest in camels, but the MENA climate refugees will be bringing their own.

    Yup Europe’s future looks so bright – learn Arabic bitch.

    The second the last US chopper leaves the roof of every US embassy in Europe, is the moment chaos ensues in each country. Y’all would need a concerted effort & major war spending for an entire decade to be able to protect yourselves at the same level the US protects you now.

  32. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 13th Aug 2022 1:03 pm 

    The Horn of Africa is facing an unprecedented drought. What is the world doing to help solve it?

    “More than 18 million people face severe hunger in Ethiopia, Somalia and Kenya, according to the US government’s Humanitarian Information Unit (HIU). Around 7 million children are acutely malnourished, it says, while the UN refugee agency UNHCR says an estimated 1.5 million people have been displaced.”

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/07/africa-drought-food-starvation/

    Come to Holland brothers & sisters – we’ll feed, house & educate you. Couple of bucks spending money too.

    Meet clog, he is your liaison officer and y’all will be staying with him for the first 12 months. Don’t leave him alone with your children.

  33. FamousDrScanlon on Sat, 13th Aug 2022 1:59 pm 

    West MSM has bee crying ‘poor Ukraine’ they are so impoverished & hungry cause of war-N-stuff.

    PLEASE SEND MONEY OR UKRAINE WILL STARVE!

    Ukraine’s 1st wheat shipment bound for Africa to support drought aid: UN
    Shipment is 1st aimed at delivering food assistance under Black Sea grain initiative, says UN spokesman…. 12.08.2022

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/ukraines-1st-wheat-shipment-bound-for-africa-to-support-drought-aid-un/2660196#

    Sure thing. Send your donations directly to comedian-actor Zelenskyy & his screen writer wife and the Nazi Azov battalion. Send them your kids Christmas money. No one is starving more than those chubby Ukrainians.

    BTW, the Zelenskyy family is having a 2 for 1 sale on all American made assault rifles and ammunition.

  34. Biden’s hairplug on Sat, 13th Aug 2022 6:02 pm 

    “The second the last US chopper leaves the roof of every US embassy in Europe”

    Vietnam is doing great after you finally got lost. Won’t be different with Europe.

    You better worry abou the to be expected bloodbath in North-America, when diversity goes tits up.

    We’re going to liberate you back.

    America has been a European colony for 1783-1492=291 years, much longer than the other way around (202x-1945=80 years). Normalcy will soon be restored.

  35. Dredd on Sun, 14th Aug 2022 10:53 am 

    Some top western quantum physicists have become Eastern Mystics (Small Brains Considered – 6).

  36. world supremacist muzzies unite on Mon, 15th Aug 2022 9:55 pm 

    this is my master treaties. i don’t waste time on this forum. it’s lame.

    muzze stabbed salman rushdie

    muzzie is roasted in kabul over teh last month of 7/2022 there were 4 supremacist muzzies roasted.

    US Navy sent seal team to retrieve muzzie carcass for burial at sea according to muzzie customs

    but they’re not muzzies. they’re muzzies but they’re not muzzies

    muzzie bribe went with isis to make babies and now want to go back. what the world going to. this is ok but supertard big muzzie beard SAWS swt pbuh is banned from UK and harrassed by AA.

    supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swt reported muzzies in ger comprise of 40% of jizya payment to the tune of 4 billion euros per month. with that money they could go REAL GREEN or FAKE GREEN, it doesn’t matter that would’d been prosperious without the rapey rapey and stabby muzzies. The scale of jizya is incredible. it’s all out in the open if you just listen to the UK muzzie andy choudary.

    muzzie sabotage airliner and got loved 1000x in the form of reporting of “union dispute”. supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swtreported it’s actually jihad.

    Then in astralia muzzie with big grin and smug looking face with a hat and meat grinder practically begged to be amputated and put on muzzie hamster wheel. cops love him 100000x more and are puzzled why he did this. i’m scratching my head too which has thinning hair

    Muzzie in NZ allah acbar and went after cop with axe. Cops loved muzzie 10000x love conquer all. No tweet AOC SAWS pbuh swt , not siri Lanka, not when muzzie shot 6 cops on philadelphia. 25 billion tweet on Christchurch though

    then there we deceptions of deep green, real green, deep deep green, fake fake green, and all the permutations of green. when AOC SAWS pbuh swt – (ZOMG i’m amazed at the technology in a sink food grinder) failed, the greta SAWS pbuh swt deception kicked in. I belived everything even the fantastic flying goat story.

    for many years, centuries, million, quadrillion of years since (((supremetard))) SAWS pbuh swt created heaven and earth and before supertards SAWS pbuh swt big muzzie beard and glenn roberts put up web sites, i warned tards and supertards about muzzies.

    i made no progress sort of like banging head against concrete, concrete wins everytime

    but then i “reverted” to a supremacist muzzie jerk and I’m the best of humanity allah has created. i wear a muzzie dress and i pee sitting down holding up the bathroom line. this made supertard SAWS pbuh swt have bladder infection but the love for muzzies only intensified.

    and now i have superpower, big goat SAWS pbuh swt is feeling intense heat. all stops are pulled it seems – even Robert Inget the controlled libtard opposition is deployed to censor me. but uppertard SAWS pbuh swt is not going to destroy free speech for someones love of muzzie. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh swt dropped the appeal and that’s final. it’s now as good as case law. supertard SIS SIS SAWS pbuh is back being occupied with his bunker and learjet and auto keltecs and he said absolutely do not bother him. so it’s set in stone that uppertard SAWS swt pbuh is not going to modify this forum

  37. this is my master treaties i dont waste time on this forum its lame on Mon, 15th Aug 2022 10:16 pm 

    muzze stabbed salman rushdie

    muzzie is roasted in kabul over teh last month of 7/2022 there were 4 supremacist muzzies roasted.

    US Navy sent seal team to retrieve muzzie carcass for burial at sea according to muzzie customs

    but they’re not muzzies. they’re muzzies but they’re not muzzies

    muzzie bribe went with isis to make babies and now want to go back. what the world going to. this is ok but supertard big muzzie beard SAWS swt pbuh is banned from UK and harrassed by AA.

    supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swt reported muzzies in ger comprise of 40% of jizya payment to the tune of 4 billion euros per month. with that money they could go REAL GREEN or FAKE GREEN, it doesn’t matter that would’d been prosperious without the rapey rapey and stabby muzzies. The scale of jizya is incredible. it’s all out in the open if you just listen to the UK muzzie andy choudary.

    muzzie sabotage airliner and got loved 1000x in the form of reporting of “union dispute”. supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swtreported it’s actually jihad.

    Then in astralia muzzie with big grin and smug looking face with a hat and meat grinder practically begged to be amputated and put on muzzie hamster wheel. cops love him 100000x more and are puzzled why he did this. i’m scratching my head too which has thinning hair

    Muzzie in NZ allah acbar and went after cop with axe. Cops loved muzzie 10000x love conquer all. No tweet AOC SAWS pbuh swt , not siri Lanka, not when muzzie shot 6 cops on philadelphia. 25 billion tweet on Christchurch though

    then there we deceptions of deep green, real green, deep deep green, fake fake green, and all the permutations of green. when AOC SAWS pbuh swt – (ZOMG i’m amazed at the technology in a sink food grinder) failed, the greta SAWS pbuh swt deception kicked in. I belived everything even the fantastic flying goat story.

    for many years, centuries, million, quadrillion of years since (((supremetard))) SAWS pbuh swt created heaven and earth and before supertards SAWS pbuh swt big muzzie beard and glenn roberts put up web sites, i warned tards and supertards about muzzies.

    i made no progress sort of like banging head against concrete, concrete wins everytime

    but then i “reverted” to a supremacist muzzie jerk and I’m the best of humanity allah has created. i wear a muzzie dress and i pee sitting down holding up the bathroom line. this made supertard SAWS pbuh swt have bladder infection but the love for muzzies only intensified.

    and now i have superpower, big goat SAWS pbuh swt is feeling intense heat. all stops are pulled it seems – even Robert Inget the controlled libtard opposition is deployed to censor me. but uppertard SAWS pbuh swt is not going to destroy free speech for someones love of muzzie. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh swt dropped the appeal and that’s final. it’s now as good as case law. supertard SIS SIS SAWS pbuh is back being occupied with his bunker and learjet and auto keltecs and he said absolutely do not bother him. so it’s set in stone that uppertard SAWS swt pbuh is not going to modify this forum

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