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New York vs Italy

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I think what is happening here is that Italy is just barely maybe starting to contain the virus.  New York is in serious and, I would guess, irrecoverable containment failure.  Italy has been locked down since March 9th.  New York is still far from fully locked down.

The data are for New York State, but it’s basically driven by the NYC metro area.

early warning



108 Comments on "New York vs Italy"

  1. bochen777 on Mon, 23rd Mar 2020 9:39 pm 

    amerikkka is fookada

  2. Theedrich on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 4:25 am 

    Negro rep: ‘Virus tremendous opp to screw Whitey’ – See https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-rep-told-colleagues-coronavirus-bill-is-tremendous-opportunity-to-restructure-things-to-fit-our-vision/.  The genosuicidism of Yankee Yid-Christian lemmings is enjoying some success with the Chicom bug and the resulting overreaction followed by general business decline.  But if the economy tanks Tainteresquely, the Dems might pull off another 1932-like win in November, and install Mr. Joe B. Dementia in the Oval Office.  From there, the switch from republic to empire will be sealed, as the marionetteers enforce their mongrelization of the nation.  It’ll be Stalin redux.

    America was founded as an attempt to escape history.  Nice try, but no cigar.

  3. Mick on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:04 am 

    This is sad just when things as most of us die hard doomers predicted long ago about the shtf moment and it seem to be unraveling at a rapid rate . Out come the trolls thick and fast as I kind of knew they would . Bau soon , a cure is being developed as we speak ,Trump will look after us, it’s all a conspiracy theory to topple trump , Never mind the virus just wait till the shale ponzie scheme finally goes bust . Look out bellow!!!!

  4. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:16 am 

    LewRockwell picked up the Italian observations as well:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/covid-19-targeting-italy-and-south-korea-the-chain-of-transmission-of-infection/

    The above statement is of crucial importance since it supports in itself the assertion of several simultaneous infection clusters and several ‘patients zero’. There are cases in Lombardy that could not be placed in an infection chain, and this must also be true for other areas. (see below) Given that the virus broke out separately in disparate regions of Italy, we can expect the identification of independent infectious clusters in those regions as well. That would mean Italy was hit by at least several individual ‘seedings’ of the virus.

    Somebody has been smearing corona all over the place, so to speak.

  5. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:17 am 

    “Trump Says Coronavirus Restrictions Will Be Lifted “Soon”, The US “Was Not Built To Be Shut Down”: Live Updates”
    https://tinyurl.com/vxe37fo zero hedge

    “Extreme measures to flatten the virus “curve” is sensible-for a time-to stretch out the strain on health infrastructure. But crushing the economy, jobs and morale is also a health issue-and beyond. Within a very few weeks let those with a lower risk to the disease return to work. — Lloyd Blankfein (@lloydblankfein) March 23, 2020 … Trump and some of his economic advisers appeared to be losing patience with public health experts who believe that easing restrictions and returning to normal life before “flattening the curve” could overwhelm the health system. Earlier on Monday, the president of the St. Louis Federal, James Bullard, said Monday that the government should consider shutting down much of the economy for three months to combat the outbreak. This is one day after the same individual said that the worst case from a lengthy shutdown would be a 50% GDP drop and a 30% surge in unemployment. It wasn’t clear if Bullard believes that a depression would serve the economy and public better than taking the risk with a shorter shutdown. While Trump didn’t mention Bullard, but said: “We’re not going to let the cure be worse than the problem.” Effectively Trump is planning on doing what China did, which after locking out a third of the country, then proceeded to forcefully restart the economy (as the Chinese economy is reliant entirely on its massive workforce). However, to do that, Beijing had to engage in some major rigging of coronavirus cases which it claimed had plateaued even though there is clear evidence China is openly manipulating the data. The question, of course, is whether the CDC will allow the US to pursue similar “data doctoring” as China engaged in. Otherwise, Trump may find it difficult to push the economy to restart in a week or two if the number of new cases is still soaring. And with the “resistance” press eager to do everything in its power to force a depression, leading to a Trump loss in November, it is certain that the situation as represented by the mainstream liberal media will only get more dire with time.”

  6. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:19 am 

    “There are cases in Lombardy that could not be placed in an infection chain, and this must also be true for other areas”

    AH, cloggo, why didn’t this virus spread then like it has? Besides the place is crawling with poor Chinese in the leather business. You and Lew are searching for anything to protect your extreme positions. You both look like shit.

  7. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:26 am 

    I imagine the Americans told the Chinese Ambassador they would dump the full details of what really happening with the origin of the Chinese virus and the lying that allowed it to become a global pandemic essentially destroying globalism and sustainable development. Now we will be in a period of degrowth with some very unhappy developments all because of a sloppy lying China!

    “China’s Diplomats Contradict Each Other In Rare Communist Party Split Over Trump”
    https://tinyurl.com/t8e443x zero hedge

    “Bloomberg reports of an extremely unusual public spat between two top Chinese diplomats: The differences spilled into public view Monday after China’s ambassador to the U.S. reaffirmed his opposition to promoting theories that the virus that causes Covid-19 originated in an American military lab. Ambassador Cui Tiankai said in an interview with “Axios on HBO” that he stood by his Feb. 9 statement that it would be “crazy” to spread such theories, even though a foreign ministry spokesman has repeatedly floated the idea on Twitter in recent weeks…It appears Ambassador Cui’s calmer and more measured tone has won out, likely out of a desire to calm the bombastic anti-China rhetoric out of the White House: The developments suggest that China’s foreign ministry may be having second thoughts about taking a more confrontational approach toward President Donald Trump. The foreign ministry later Monday posted a Chinese-language transcript of Cui’s remarks on its website and another spokesman, Geng Shuang, told reporters “the virus should not be linked to a specific country or region to avoid stigmatization.”

  8. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:43 am 

    “Helicopter Money”: This Is The Game-Changer Geo-Politically”
    https://tinyurl.com/toa3k53 charles hugh smith

    “As Gordon Long and I explain, the short-term “pain relief” of Helicopter Money won’t cure the economy’s financial disease; rather, it will act as a catalyst for longer-term disruption and decline. None of the giveaways being discussed address the core causes of our systemic financial disease: — Erosion of real-world collateral supporting the ever-growing mountains of debt and leverage — Diminishing returns on monetary stimulus (Federal Reserve financial cocaine no longer generates euphoria) — Domino-like disruption of global supply chains and global demand — Stagnating purchasing power of labor — The use of debt to keep up with the soaring costs of essentials (rent, healthcare. childcare) and aspirational goods (iPhones) and services (vacations) — Repricing of risk and risk assets… The inevitable result of creating currency is excess of the creation of goods and services is a decline in purchasing power which we experience as inflation / shrinkflation (getting lower quality and less quantity even though the price has remained the same)… Then there’s the psychological impact of the reverse wealth effect as households and enterprises see their net worth and income dropping. The confident euphoria required to borrow and spend freely has evaporated and will not be returning, regardless of how much currency is created and distributed.”

  9. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:43 am 

    Personally, I feel this virus was the best black swan we could have in regards to the economy and a reset. From a human point of view, it is tragic and horrible. So, in this respect it is not the best but since it is here now and the milk spilt let’s realize that this is an excellent excuse the global public can accept to allow degrowth that will likely make it easier to survive what was ahead anyway. Degrowth will now kick in and we will hopefully find a new level of stability. This level will be a significantly poorer world with many luxuries gone. Travel, leisure, and fun consumerism will be significantly eroded. Things like fast food and restaurants will diminish. Food itself will change because of the lack of it. One of the big reasons we need to flatten the virus curve but then get to work quickly is we need to get back to producing food which is a process of growing stuff that takes an economy. We need things to repair infrastructure. We need basic inputs of energy and chemicals to produce things. There is no “get out of jail free card” here, all of us will suffer at some point in the process. We will need to rebuild a world with less globalism and that naturally means returning more to localism and hard work. The digital tech world is ending. It won’t die immediately but it will be greatly adjusted.

  10. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:49 am 

    Latest figures:

    https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

    Madrid and New York could overtake Lombardy in death toll soon.

    Economic fall-out far worse than 2009.

  11. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 6:52 am 

    “COVID-19 & China’s Propaganda Campaign In Europe”
    https://tinyurl.com/ugslvhf gatestone institute

    “For China, the outreach to Europe is part of an effort to claw back an international leadership role after early cover-ups helped the virus spread well beyond its borders. President Xi Jinping’s government has sought to silence critics, including reporters and online commentators, and also spread conspiracy theories about where the virus originated. “Geopolitically, China’s move to brand itself as Europe’s savior aims to improve its standing on a global stage as both spar with the Trump administration. China and the U.S. have continued a wider fight for global influence — Beijing kicked out more than a dozen American journalists this week — while also seeking to deflect blame for their handling of the disease…”This is a propaganda operation that hides various truths. The first and most important is that the culprit for this pandemic is the Chinese regime. It does not take any conspiracy theory to point it out. It was widely recognized that Chinese live animal markets are a very serious epidemic hazard. The very severe communist regime of the people’s republic, which controls everything for the welfare of the citizens, has been unable to shut them down. When the first cases emerged, it took forever for the highly efficient Communist Party to react and instead devoted its myriad resources just to hiding the truth. When it could no longer hide what was happening, it intervened brutally, and only in this way has it managed to stop the epidemic, not without first giving rise, due to its negligence, to the virus spreading throughout the world.”

  12. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:00 am 

    BoJo’s father to become French. His sister might as well become French. Both are Remainers and ardent Europhiles.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-stanley-johnson-boris-french-passport-rachel-book-rakes-progress-a9416636.html

    /snicker

  13. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:01 am 

    “Biggest Lockdown In World History” – India Paralyzed As COVID-19 Crisis Unfolds”
    https://tinyurl.com/urh5sh2 zero hedge

    “India is the second-largest country in the world, and has reported only 467 cases and ten deaths. The lack of test kits has made it virtually impossible for the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare to detect community spreading of the virus. As test kits come online, India could be staring at a pandemic. Actions by the government already suggest the virus crisis is getting worse. In the last day, India launched the world’s most extensive social distancing lockdown of 1.3 billion people to flatten the pandemic curve to slow down the infection rate. Nearly a billion Indians stayed indoors on Sunday. India’s 14-hour #coronavirus…Flight bans and the cancellation of all passenger trains in the country is another attempt to limit the spread. The country’s hospital system is poorly equipped and doesn’t have enough hospital beds and ICU-level treatments to handle a massive influx of virus patients. “This is the biggest lockdown in world history,” said Raghu Raman, a former soldier with the Indian Army and founder of the National Intelligence Grid, an umbrella database aimed at countering terrorism. “This strategic pause gives decision-makers more time to arrest the exponential spread of the virus and evaluate tradeoffs.”

  14. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:07 am 

    “Geopolitically, China’s move to brand itself as Europe’s savior aims to improve its standing on a global stage”

    America is losing Europe as an ally. NATO is seen as “brain-dead”. You can have the UK, America, we make the U-turn towards Eurasia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatestone_Institute

    Gatestone Institute is yet another kosher-lead think-tank, founded by a (((Nina Rosenwald)))

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Rosenwald

  15. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:08 am 

    “Twitter Sells Out – Will Allow Chinese Government Propaganda About Virus Origin”
    https://tinyurl.com/whl4mm8 zero hedge

    “Having withdrawn guidance for the rest of the year earlier in the evening, following a collapse in advertising revenue, it appears Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has once again sold out to the Chinese government (among others)… And ironically, that is almost what they did… except for one thing – if you’re an ‘average joe’, ‘blog’, or ‘Trump supporter’, you’ll still be banned; but if you’re a government official, you’re allowed to say whatever you want about the origins of COVID-19 and not get censored, suspended, or banned. Twitter says coronavirus is “affecting our content moderation capacities in unique ways” and it cannot “take enforcement action on every Tweet that contains incomplete or disputed information” about the virus. And, therefore, in a tweet this evening, Twitter announced: “Official government accounts engaging in conversation about the origins of the virus and global public conversation about potential emergent treatments will be permitted, unless the content contains clear incitement to take a harmful physical action.” As many know, following ZeroHedge’s permanent ban from the platform, it appears in recent months Twitter has taken it upon itself to become the supreme arbiter of all that is politically correct, noble and just (or at least is not frowned upon by the Chinese Communist Party) in this cruel world where readers are completely unable to make up their minds on their own without a blue bird telling them what they should or should not read, and what, in its eyes, is arbitrary fake news. And now, following Chinese officials completely unsubstantiated claims that the virus emerged in the US, Twitter changes its policy? But, it would seem – given our permanent ban, that telling people to ask someone what happened using public info is “clear incitement to take harmful physical action” but that making completely unsubstantiated claims about another global superpower that could quite easily escalate into social unrest, xenophobia, and inevitably war – is fine if it’s done by a government? Ok.”

  16. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:10 am 

    “America is losing Europe as an ally. NATO is seen as “brain-dead”. You can have the UK, America, we make the U-turn towards Eurasia.”

    The EU is finished and will likely Balkanized into a smaller group. Once the world figures out the Chinese deception of lies then China will be stigmatized. The Chinese people might be the first.

  17. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:22 am 

    The rabid left will use any part of this crisis to attack Trump with with an eye on the election. Dead bodies will just make their derangement polices work out better in their warped mind. Of course not all of the rabid left. The ones with the dead bodies pilling up will think otherwise. Trump screwed up the approach early on by saying this virus wasn’t serious. He failed to see the economic fallout potential. Yet, at this point there needs to be cooperation but the rabid left smells blood. Too bad they don’t smell their own blood because they will pay a price for these politically motivated actions.

  18. Simon Says on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:44 am 

    DavyScum says: “The rabid left will use any part of this crisis to attack Trump with with an eye on the election.”

    Of course, your Dear Leader only has the best interests of the country at heart, right? He would never be so duplicitous as to factor in the 2020 election in his decision making. After all, the Democrats should just roll over and rubber stamp Trump’s proposal, which represents the largest single line item deficit spending in the history of the country. Naturally, Trump would never think of trying to buy the election.

    By the way, weren’t you at one time the party of fiscal restraint or was that more smoke and mirrors. Now that Trump’s racking up the largest deficits in history, I guess the federal debt does not matter.

    You and your Dear Leader and his party the enablers are the definiton of LIARS and HYPOCRITES.

    Liars and hypocrites always stay together.

  19. Simon Says on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:47 am 

    Yeah, the ExceptionalTurd has to find someone or something to hate on.

    Haters are gonna hate- it’s just their nature.

  20. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:52 am 

    Of course, our Dear Leader only has the best interests of the country at heart. He would never be so duplicitous as to factor in the 2020 election in his decision making. After all, the Democrats should just roll over and rubber stamp Trump’s proposal, which represents the largest single line item deficit spending in the history of the country. Naturally, Trump would never think of trying to buy the election.

    By the way, weren’t you at one time the party of fiscal restraint or was that more smoke and mirrors. Now that Trump’s racking up the largest deficits in history, I guess the federal debt does not matter.

    my Dear Leader and his party the enablers are the definiton of LIARS and HYPOCRITES.

    Liars and hypocrites always stay together.

    GO Trump2020

    Pink Poodle is pro Trump

  21. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 7:54 am 

    I have to find someone or something to hate on. Haters are gonna hate- it’s just their nature. I am mentally challenged and ill. This is a potent combination for stupidity

    Brought to you by the pink poodle

  22. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 8:00 am 

    https://infection2020.com/

    Hi folks, pink poodle here. My Miami Beach is one of the worst hit in the country. I am sorry for saying this virus ain’t shit and it won’t hit warm climates. I am stupid and mentally ill sometimes.

  23. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 9:01 am 

    “Coronavirus is deadly, but it won’t kill globalisation”

    “The world is self isolating, but after the pandemic is over globalisation will no longer belong to America. It will be Chinese”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-trump-us-china-trade-war-economy-globalisation-a9420941.html

  24. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 9:38 am 

    “The world is self isolating, but after the pandemic is over globalisation will no longer belong to America. It will be Chinese”

    Bullshit, it will be neither. China is a middle income exporter that is overpopulated. It will be crushed. Europe is a rich region dependent on exports and it will be crushed. The US is a globalized financial center who will also be crushed. Of these 3 China is the worst positioned.

  25. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:12 am 

    From Nero to hero… DJT Corona approval rating to 55%

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2020/mar/24/trump-pandemic-floundering-coronavirus-crisis

    “The pandemic has left Trump floundering – so why have his ratings gone up?”

  26. whoa supertards please love supremacist muzzies moar for the sake of supremacist muzzies allah created muzzie best of humanity kufar slur 1000x worse than n word are animals on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:17 am 

    grate news whitey supertard president trump fired whitey supertard dr. fuci

  27. whoa supertards please love supremacist muzzies moar for the sake of supremacist muzzies allah created muzzie best of humanity kufar slur 1000x worse than n word are animals on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:21 am 

    doctors say deaths by luke is “epidemic” and ask patients about their luke. this is nosy.

    the problem with luke is global because muzzies kill 500/day and continuing, so why not “pandemic”?

    why not, lovin’ of muzzies that’s why

    1400 years, 300 million deaths and the hand of grater supremacist muzzies and 500/day and continuing and doctor not declarying muzzie a pandemic?

    why

    muzzie pandemic solution is to amputate all muzzies

    why not declare pandemic? muzzie lovin that’s why

    whitey supertard doctor fauci is no good, it’s grate he’s fired. he knew whitey supertard president trump is germophobe so people are taking advantage of his weakness and whitey supertard dr. fauci is a doctor he knows about germaphobes

    Y didn’t he tell whitey supertard president trumP/

    cui bono?

    muzzies

    whitey supertard dr fauci is a muzzie lover that’s why

  28. Duncan Idaho on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:38 am 

    “But with the advent of agriculture, humans also began to experience malnutrition, starvation and epidemic diseases.”

  29. Lord Trumpenstein IV on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:55 am 

    New York would do well to start ovening the jew filth now before they rape the society after the virus !

  30. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 10:56 am 

    I agree the jews need to be burned and the ashes given to the pigs.

  31. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 11:14 am 

    why not just give the jews to the pigs?

  32. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 12:27 pm 

    Delusional Davy “I am mentally challenged and ill. This is a potent combination for stupidity.”
    You are projecting again, son of a junkie whore and her pimp! ROFLMFAO!

  33. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 12:43 pm 

    Now you’re talking:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8147525/Dutch-firm-creates-new-coronavirus-test-gives-results-just-15-minutes.html

    “Dutch firm creates new coronavirus test that looks for antibodies and gives results in just 15 minutes – as pressure grows on the UK to test ALL suspected cases”

    A Dutch firm has created a new coronavirus test that can give results in just 15 minutes in the same fashion as a pregnancy stick.

    Sensitest’s blood test, manufactured in China, detects antibodies that signal the body is fighting the deadly infection.

    It is not able to spot the virus in its early stages, but it can reveal if someone has already beaten the virus without showing symptoms.

    The small company said it would be open to negotiate a deal with governments to supply tests for the masses.

  34. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 1:30 pm 

    The latest case fatality rate for the CIA Virus is 15%! What that means is that of all the closed cases in the world, 85% have recovered and been discharged while 15% have resulted in death. This number is up from 9% only a week ago! When combined with the fact that testing is increasing daily (including testing of non symptomatic people) this means that the lethality of this disease is significantly higher than we thought before. For now, every aspect of the CIA Virus Global Pandemic keeps getting worse on a daily basis. This virus will wipe out many, many people over 60 all over the world, maybe a majority of them, particularly those with pre existing medical conditions, which applies to the vast majority of that age bracket in the USA.

    The USA is already the country with the highest number of daily new infections. It is extremely likely that the USA will become the country with the highest number of active cases this week, and the largest amount of deaths next month, according to the latest reports.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

  35. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 1:42 pm 

    ING: Dutch economy currently at 80% output.
    Could last for weeks.
    EU contraction 2020 2.7%

  36. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:06 pm 

    “The latest case fatality rate for the China Virus is 15%! What that means is that of all the closed cases in the world, 85% have recovered and been discharged while 15% have resulted in death. This number is up from 9% only a week ago! When combined with the fact that testing is increasing daily (including testing of non symptomatic people) this means that the lethality of this disease is significantly higher than we thought before. For now, every aspect of the China Virus Global Pandemic keeps getting worse on a daily basis. This virus will wipe out many, many people over 60 all over the world, maybe a majority of them, particularly those with pre existing medical conditions, which applies to the vast majority of that age bracket in the USA.”

    Stupid, where is the content for that naked reference? In anycase, wow, that escalated quickly juanPee from the virus ain’t shit to “wipe out many, many over 60” LMGFAO at the stupidity of dumbshit. Dumbshit it is not as bad as that, now you are going to the other extreme, extremist dumbass!

    “The USA is already the country with the highest number of daily new infections. It is extremely likely that the USA will become the country with the highest number of active cases this week, and the largest amount of deaths next month, according to the latest reports. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/”

    The dumbass is not capably of looking at the US and other nations in a per capita way. JuanPee also does not realize the facts that nations are along the curve differently. It is a different story in the middle of the country compared to the coast. Stupid also does not admit that he said climate would prevent the virus from infecting Miami but now Miami is an epicenter. Stupid has gone so far to one extremem to the other extreme that now everyone should realize how utterly worthless any of his comments are. The site owners should ban the fuck as punishment.

  37. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:08 pm 

    “ING: Dutch economy currently at 80% output.
    Could last for weeks. EU contraction 2020 2.7%”

    Way what, cloggo? Do you have a reference for that and what are you talking about for contraction? Do you mean a negative 2.7% GDP for the whole year of 2020? My God this forum has to be constantly moderated to protect the truth.

  38. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:51 pm 

    “China Lied, Released Infected COVID-19 Patients Ahead Of Xi Visit To Wuhan: Doctor”
    https://tinyurl.com/rhsg7uy zero hedge

    “China lied about the number of COVID-19 patients in Wuhan, ground zero for the global pandemic, ahead of a visit for President Xi Jinping’s March 10 visit to the region, a local doctor told Kyodo News. The same day China’s health authorities reported no new cases of coronavirus in Wuhan, several symptomatic patients were released early from quarantine, while health officials suspended a portion of testing, according to the report as relayed by the Japan Times…The doctor, in his 40s, whose responsibilities include determining whether a patient is discharged from a hospital expressed strong concerns that if the truth remains hidden from the public, another outbreak could occur. Guidelines from the National Health Commission stipulate that patients must test negative for the virus twice and be cleared for pneumonia via a computerized tomography scan before being discharged. But according to the doctor, from around the time of Xi’s visit, even though his patients still exhibited signs of pneumonia, the patients were released from quarantine at the discretion of a “specialist” from the epidemic prevention and control authority. -Japan Times After the government specialist began releasing patients, the criteria for discharge was altered – and a “mass release of infected patients began,” he said. Meanwhile, interview questions for people exhibiting symptoms were similarly simplified, while a blood test to detect antibodies produced during infection was discontinued – resulting in suspected patients being released back into the community.”

  39. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:52 pm 

    Davy’s comment above lacks any truth. Par for the course for the board’s biggest liar.

    The truth is that if you really have very old parents, Davy, like you’ve claimed in the past, they are very likely to die this year, as are you. I’m happy for the twins who will inherit the family fortune at such a young age. Hardly adequate compensation for having had a father like you. You’ve probably messed them up so badly already that they will most likely die from an overdose in their teens now that they have so much money to buy drugs to medicate themselves to cope with the pain and suffering you’ve caused them. Probably they’d have been better off if they had been homeless orphans.

  40. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:56 pm 

    More delusional China bashing nonsense from ZH. How low an IQ does one need to have to spend half his life reading all that nonsense? One would have to be as stupid as a Missouri mule! ROFLMFAO! Go get fucked by a goat, impotent prick!

  41. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:56 pm 

    LOL, looks like juanPee is now stealing Ghungs ID becuase we see this typical juanPee malfeasance:
    Ghung on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:48 pm
    JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 2:52 pm

    Fucknut you are losing it! LMFAO Ghung has not commented on this side in many months, stupid.

  42. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:00 pm 

    “The truth is that if you really have very old parents, Davy, like you’ve claimed in the past, they are very likely to die this year, as are you.”

    I don’t expect my dad to make it but he is dying anyway so he is prepared for it. Mom is in great health and hopefully will manage the virus as many over 70 do. I am in great health and in a good place to avoid the virus. You are fucked juanPee in Miami Beach crammed into a condo like a cruise ship. The one who should die is you.

    “ I’m happy for the twins who will inherit the family fortune at such a young age. Hardly adequate compensation for having had a father like you. You’ve probably messed them up so badly already that they will most likely die from an overdose in their teens now that they have so much money to buy drugs to medicate themselves to cope with the pain and suffering you’ve caused them. Probably they’d have been better off if they had been homeless orphans.”

    LOL, I love when you get dramatic because it shows just how wounded you are and how deep your mental illness is. This virus will surely kill you because your life is one big wrong way!

  43. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:01 pm 

    Delusional Davy “LOL, looks like juanPee is now stealing Ghungs ID becuase we see this typical juanPee malfeasance:”
    You are projecting again, Exceptionalist! I have never stolen an identity in my life, fucktard! I am not a fucking weakling and coward like you; I am man enough to put my name to my words and live with the consequences.

  44. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:02 pm 

    “More delusional China bashing nonsense from ZH. How low an IQ does one need to have to spend half his life reading all that nonsense? One would have to be as stupid as a Missouri mule! ROFLMFAO! Go get fucked by a goat, impotent prick!”

    Stupid fuck, getting emotional about it without explaining why you are so emotional does not prove anything other than you are a low IQ lunatic.

  45. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:03 pm 

    Remember when your time comes that I will still be here! I hope that is the last thought on your diseased, obsessive mind as you draw your last breath, motherfucker! LOL!

  46. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:05 pm 

    Delusional Davy “Stupid fuck, getting emotional about it without explaining why you are so emotional does not prove anything other than you are a low IQ lunatic.”

    You are projecting again, son of a $5 syphilitic whore! ROFLMFAO!

  47. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:05 pm 

    “You are projecting again, Exceptionalist! I have never stolen an identity in my life, fucktard! I am not a fucking weakling and coward like you; I am man enough to put my name to my words and live with the consequences.”

    You lost it juanPee and what a sore loser. How are the lines to get food? LMFAO. JuanPee, I have noticed lately you are stealing more and more ID’s. I think your mental illness is elevating.

  48. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:07 pm 

    “Remember when your time comes that I will still be here! I hope that is the last thought on your diseased, obsessive mind as you draw your last breath, motherfucker! LOL!”

    You sound more and more like a wounded animal, juanPee. I think you may have the virus and are in denial. Maybe go get tested or better yet dive into the condo pool from your 5th story balcony to east the fever.

  49. JuanP on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:07 pm 

    Delusional Davy “LOL, I love when you get dramatic because it shows just how wounded you are and how deep your mental illness is. This virus will surely kill you because your life is one big wrong way!”
    You are projecting again, fool! ROFLMFAO!

  50. Davy on Tue, 24th Mar 2020 3:07 pm 

    “You are projecting again, son of a $5 syphilitic whore! ROFLMFAO!”

    Yeap, you sound very wounded indeed!

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