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End of the World?

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Claims ring saying that human-caused climate change will soon make the Earth unlivable, but other similar claims have been made in the recent past that have turned out to be false. The photo at right, from AP, shows a 1970 Earth Day event in Philadelphia.

 

“Millennials and people and you know Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up, and we’re like, ‘The world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change, and your biggest issue is — your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?’” This rhetorical — some would say hysterical — question was posed by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) during an interview at a January 21 event in New York City honoring Martin Luther King, Jr.

Taking her at her word, the 29-year-old lawmaker really believes that anthropogenic (man-made) global warming will destroy our planet by the time she reaches middle age, unless drastic measures are immediately undertaken to head off the impending disaster. That, of course, is why she is frantically imploring America to buy into her “Green New Deal” without fretting about the cost. AOC’s “deal” calls for a “10-year national mobilization” effort to (among other drastic actions) meet “100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources” — meaning zero percent from oil or natural gas. It also requires “upgrading all existing buildings in the United States” to maximize their energy efficiency.

No one could credibly accuse AOC of not thinking big. “Like this is the war,” she said in her January 21 interview. “This is our World War II.”

AOC believes that she and her fellow “millennials … and you know Gen Z” understand the urgency of launching an all-out mobilization effort to combat climate change. They get it — but the older generations, not so much. After all, they will inherit the mess older Americans leave behind. “I’m 29 and I know that this is going to be the world that we’re going to have to deal with — that we’re going to have to live in,” the esteemed representative said at a New York Hall of Science event on February 22. “And with all due respect to my colleagues, but especially in like the Republican Party, it’s like you’re not going to have to live with this problem. You’re just, I’m sorry.”

There is no doubt that millions of millennials and Generation Z-ers honestly believe that an environmental doomsday is fast approaching. Yet how many of them realize that dire “end of the world” predictions have been around for a long time, and have been given a lot of credibility and widely circulated, long before the millennials, let alone post-millennials, were even born? Very few, to be sure. In fact, it is reasonable to ask if AOC knows this herself. AOC may feel “sorry” for pointing out that aging Republicans are “not going to have to live with” what she perceives to be catastrophic climate-change, but she should feel sorry for her lacking the understanding that both witnessing and studying the past can bring.

An Earth Day in the Life

This writer was in high school during the original Earth Day, which was held on April 22, 1970, more than 19 years prior to Ocasio-Cortez’ birth. During the buildup to that big event, I received from my biology teacher a copy of The Environmental Handbook: Prepared for the First National Environmental Teach-in, as “Earth Day” was then called. Published by Ballantine Books and edited by Garrett de Bell, the Handbook was comprised of a collection of essays warning against environmental devastation and served as an Earth Day manifesto. “1970’s — THE LAST CHANCE FOR A FUTURE THAT MAKES ECOLOGICAL SENSE,” the Handbook blasted on its back cover. Inside, a prologue claimed: “At most we have a decade to deal with some of the problems. In many cases we have already damaged the environment beyond repair.”

The book foretold the fall of man because of man’s devastating effect on the environment through deforestation, overgrazing, pesticide use, land overuse, air and water pollution, overpopulation, and more.

“At most … a decade”? Those words were published in January of 1970. But a decade is two years less than we now have left according to AOC and her fellow alarmists as of the beginning of 2019, almost half a century later.

Nor was this warning unique for the time period. In 1969, Dr. Paul Ehrlich, a biology professor at prestigious Stanford University, wrote an article in the September issue of Ramparts entitled “ECO-CATASTROPHE!” In this article, an editor’s note explains, Ehrlich “predicts what our world will be like in ten years if the present course of environmental destruction is allowed to continue.” In his scary scenario, Ehrlich forecast “the end of the ocean.” “By September, 1979,” he wrote, “all important animal life in the sea was extinct. Large areas of coastline had to be evacuated, as windrows of dead fish created a monumental stench.”

“But,” Ehrlich added in what may now be recognized by all as a fanciful story, “stench was the least of man’s problems. Japan and China were faced with almost instant starvation from a total loss of seafood on which they were so dependent. Both blamed Russia for their situation and demanded immediate mass shipments of food. Russia had none to send.”

Ehrlich completed his 1969 essay by claiming: “Man is not only running out of food, he is also destroying the life support systems of the Spaceship Earth. The situation was recently summarized very succinctly: ‘It is the top of the ninth inning. Man, always a threat at the plate, has been hitting Nature hard. It is important to remember, however, that NATURE BATS LAST.’” (Emphasis in original.) Ehrlich’s scenario got plenty of game time during the buildup to Earth Day 1970, since it was one of the articles included in The Environmental Handbook.

Doom Dished Up

Before and after the first Earth Day, as is the case today, doomsayers warned about the perils of climate change, though back then the fear was that man’s pollution would usher in a new ice age as opposed to global warming. They also warned about other environmental threats, including overpopulation and the depletion of natural resources. Let’s take a look at some of the alarmist predictions “experts” have made about these three concerns in particular at various points in time.

Overpopulation: We begin our brief survey with the issue of overpopulation, since Ehrlich and other eco-alarmists reason that the Earth is a “spaceship” with limited resources, and more people means more depletion of resources, as well as more environmental devastation. As Paul Ehrlich put it in his 1968 book The Population Bomb: “Too many cars, too many factories, too much detergent, too much pesticide, multiplying contrails, inadequate sewage treatment plants, too little water, too much carbon dioxide — all can be traced easily to too many people.” (Emphasis in original.) Ehrlich’s Population Bomb turned out to be a bestseller so far as sales were concerned, but a bust regarding his failed forecasting. In his 1968 book, he wrote: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970’s the world will undergo famines — hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate, although many lives could be saved through dramatic programs to ‘stretch’ the carrying capacity of the earth by increasing food production. But these programs will only provide a stay of execution unless they are accompanied by determined and successful efforts at population control.”

Ehrlich defined population control as “the conscious regulation of the numbers of human beings to meet the needs, not just of individual families, but of society as a whole.” He called abortion “a highly effective weapon in the armory of population control.”

Another biologist, Garrett Hardin of the University of California at Santa Barbara, warned in an article published in the December 13, 1968 issue of Science and later incorporated into The Environmental Handbook, “No technical solution can rescue us from the misery of overpopulation. Freedom to breed will bring ruin to all.” Handbook editor de Bell recommended not merely halting population growth but reducing the Earth’s “current three and a half billion people to something less than one billion people.”

Climate change: Newsweek warned in its April 28, 1975 edition: “There are ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production…. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only ten years from now.” But the “ominous signs” Newsweek was reporting were supposedly early effects of global cooling, not global warming. In an article entitled “The Cooling World,” Newsweek noted: “After three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down,” adding that meteorologists “are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climate change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.”

The global-cooling scare of the 1970s has long since been replaced by the global-warming scare. On June 29, 1989, just a few months before AOC’s birth on October 13 of that year, the Associated Press reported in a story entitled “U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked”:

A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of “eco-refugees,” threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

Depletion of resources: On April 18, 1977, President Jimmy Carter gave a major energy address in which he claimed that “we are now running out of gas and oil” and that “we could use up all the proven reserves of oil in the entire world by the end of the next decade” — that is, the end of the 1980s.

At the time, many “experts” believed that the United States had passed “peak oil” production in 1970. But after a dec-ades-long decline, U.S. oil production has rebounded spectacularly. In fact, as The New American recently reported, the United States is expected to “surpass Saudi Arabia later this year in exports of oil, natural gas liquids, and other petroleum products, such as gasoline” — a dramatic turn of events that few could have imagined in the 1970s when our country was dangerously dependent on foreign oil for our energy needs.

Oil was not the only resource that would supposedly be depleted long before today as a consequence of consumption combined with growing population. Meteorologist Anthony Watts, founder and editor of the popular climate website WattsUpWithThat.com, assembled a large number of embarrassing forecasts in his 2013 article “Great Moments in Failed Predictions.” Regarding “exhaustion of resources,” Watts noted:

• In 1865, Stanley Jevons (one of the most recognized 19th century economists) predicted that England would run out of coal by 1900, and that England’s factories would grind to a standstill….

• In 1939 the US Department of the Interior said that American oil supplies would last only another 13 years.

• [A] 1944 federal government review predicted that by now the US would have exhausted its reserves of 21 of 41 commodities it examined. Among them were tin, nickel, zinc, lead and manganese.

Watts also pointed to the Club of Rome’s 1972 Limits to Growth report, which used computer simulation to project when finite resources would be depleted as a result of growing population and consumption. As summarized by Watts, the study “projected the world would run out of gold by 1981, mercury and silver by 1985, tin by 1987, zinc by 1990, petroleum by 1992, and copper, lead and natural gas by 1993. It also stated that the world had only 33-49 years of aluminum resources left, which means we should run out sometime between 2005-2021.”

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Admittedly, the failure of past predictions of eco-catastrophe does not necessarily mean that current or future predictions will fail as badly. But knowledge of these failures should at least cause AOC and her fellow Chicken Littles to take a deep breath and ask themselves: “Should we really radically transform America via the ‘Green New Deal,’ regardless of the cost, based on the assumption that the world will end in 12 years if we don’t?” There is plenty of evidence showing that man-made climate change is a non-problem, and we encourage anyone concerned about climate change to take a hard look before proclaiming the end is near.

thenewamerican.com



78 Comments on "End of the World?"

  1. Gaia on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 7:14 pm 

    No human will be around in 2100 AD. The only ones to survive will be cockroaches and rats.

  2. Gaia on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 7:23 pm 

    This century will be the end of Zionism/Anglo-American Imperialism. People are getting fed up of the bullshit.

  3. Gaia on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 7:37 pm 

    Time for the Third World countries to kick out multinational corporations and nationalise their economies (become self-reliant). Stop using the Euro/USD/Canadian dollar.

  4. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 7:49 pm 

    Correct on all counts, Gaia.

  5. Gaia on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 8:04 pm 

    American militias should be declared “the number one threat to America’s national security”.

  6. Pete Bauer on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 8:51 pm 

    Nigeria becomes World’s 7th country and Africa’s 1st country to reach 200 million population.

    World’s population has crossed 7.7 billion mark recently and is all set to hit 8 billion in next few years. There is no stopping and it will hit 9,10,11, 12 billion down the line before freezing.

    At the same time, the renewable energy and nuclear are expanding rapidly and will someday start replacing fossil fuels.
    Oil production has nearly hit the peak and could freeze while coal continues to expand for now.

    Only when natural calamities increase to a point beyond control, the World will apply the carbon tax.

  7. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Apr 2019 11:27 pm 

    “Only when natural calamities increase to a point beyond control, the World will apply the carbon tax.” …which will do zero to change anything except make the rich, richer. Did taxing alcohol end it’s use? Does taxing gasoline make it go away? We are going to march over the extinction cliff all the while blaming someone else for our death.

  8. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:19 am 

    American militias should be declared “the number one threat to America’s national security”.

    They are!

    Militias are the precursor of a white ethno-state on former US soil, just like the Continental Army of former fame was the required precondition for the establishment of the United States, at the cost of Britain.

    And just like the Americans of 1776 got all their weapons from the Dutch and French troops finished the British off eventually, expect a similar European involvement in North-America in the coming years. I even think that DJT and his constant urging that Europeans need to rearm is aimed at precisely that: continental Europeans bailing out white America.

    Empire dave already announced he is going to fight the Europeans! If that weren’t a good reason to postpone retirement and hop over the pond tor some major sightseeing, I don’t know what is!

  9. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:21 am 

    Sorry for being so cocky again.

  10. JuanP identity theft on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:50 am 

    juanpee posted this

    “Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:21 am Sorry for being so cocky again.”

  11. Davy on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:52 am 

    “Empire dave already announced he is going to fight the Europeans! If that weren’t a good reason to postpone retirement and hop over the pond tor some major sightseeing, I don’t know what is!”

    Cloggo, I am going to fight any foreign power who comes over unless they are a tribe of beautiful Amazonians.

  12. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 4:58 am 

    “Cloggo, I am going to fight any foreign power who comes over unless they are a tribe of beautiful Amazonians.”

    You mean these swarmy folks trying to crash your southern border?

    There is someghing utterly hopeless about you and your insane belief in the “noble savage”, a lie inflicted on your weak brain by (((Boaz))), via his sock Margereth Mead.

  13. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 5:03 am 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Boas

    How empire dave and the rest of the American left thinks about dark immigration and race (hint: “down with us!”)

  14. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 5:05 am 

    Swarmy = swarthy

  15. Davy on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 5:14 am 

    “There is someghing utterly hopeless about you and your insane belief in the “noble savage”, a lie inflicted on your weak brain by (((Boaz))), via his sock Margereth Mead.”

    stupid natze can’t even laugh

  16. Theedrich on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:00 am 

    Doomsday?  Only for the anti-evolutionists.  There is another, utterly unrealized, unexpected and ignored — indeed contemned — factor in the long history of life in the cosmos and on this planet.  It is the ineffably strange but miraculous “cybernetic” guidance of existence.  Some may call it paranormal or even supernatural.

    Rarely is it noted that, at various times there have been mass extinctions.  For instance:

    – Late Devonian, 375 million years ago, 75% of species lost;
    – End Permian, 251 million years ago, 96% of species lost;
    – End Triassic, 200 million years ago, 80% of species lost;
    – End Cretaceous, 66-65 million years ago, 76% of all species lost.

    These extinctions were caused by seemingly “natural” events, such as ice ages, volcanic activity, or the impacts of massive comets, as in the last case.

    But there were other, truly weird astronomical events which occurred long before these dramatic catastrophes.  Aside from the unexplained Big Bang and the amazing formation of galaxy-creating quasars, there was the “local” supernova which created the elements out of which our solar system and we are made.  Then there was the highly unusual ejection of our gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn, into the outer realms of the system, something virtually unknown among the histories of planets surrounding other star systems, as astronomers have now learned.

    The earliest forms of terrene life show cells with incredibly well-structured molecular architecture:  in other words, with intelligence.  This intelligence grew and grew in amazing ways, such as with the consolidation and combination of cells into multicellular forms of incredible diversity and numbers.

    Homo sapiens is the most recent spire of this tree, the only remaining member of the once quite varied family of homo.  Our sub-category quickly developed cities (civilization) and science, advancing yet further the intelligence seen in the earliest fossil records.  We ourselves are, on this planet, the latest expression of evolutionary epistemology, the direction of the cosmos.

    But note that the path to our existence hic et nunc has not been a smooth, direct one, as tacitly assumed by many.  The suffering and death experienced by an infinitude of other creatures on our planet alone should give us pause to recognize the nature of life as exploratory and severe.  Moreover, there is a realm of the non-physical which is despised by most of the intellectual world today.  As with our eyes we detect only the tiniest sliver of the electromagnetic spectrum, so also we can discover only a very small portion of realty.  Even what we know of the so-called “laws” of nature has been revealed only by the intensely dedicated work of countless highly skilled, diligent and intelligent researchers, sometimes through “accidental” discoveries.  And the mind/brain connection still appears to present an insoluble problem to our modern scientific paradigms.

    In history, from time to time there have arisen forces of great power which have changed the entire course of human civilizations:  Alexander the Great;  Julius Caesar;  Attila the Hun;  Mohammed;  Jenghis Khan;  Christopher Columbus and the Spanish conquistadors;  Stalin;  Mao;  Hitler.

    The current fad is to regard such forces and the men who led them in religio-moralistic terms:  Stalin and Che Guevara, good;  Columbus and Hitler, bad.  The faddists in our universities, politics, and media bathe in self-praise as they virtue-signal with such moralizing.  (But as the old German proverb has it, “Selbstlob stinkt.” )

    The failure to recognize such men and such forces as beyond good and evil, and as expressions of the same evolutionary cybernetics that gave rise to us, implies that we will be devastatingly thunderstruck when the next historical tornado hits us.  In contrast to the expectations of the clueless Greenies and virtue-signallers, that storm will not come only from the anthropogenic extinction now under way.  It will come from a titanic force and a man who is destined to force our species onto the next plane of evolution.  And that change will not accommodate the castrati who expect a utopian future in which mankind is a vast, smiley-faced and parasitic mud pie of low intelligence.

  17. Davy on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:17 am 

    Evolution and extinction go hand and hand. In the same sense intelligence and the raw emptiness of incomprehension or the naked unknown of no control dwell together out of necessity. Without such opposition movement would cease.

  18. Sunspot on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:25 am 

    Theedrich – Your “science” is total garbage. You seem to think that we have sussed out all the details of planetary formation to the point that we can state that there is something unusual about our Solar System, and that is a completely false notion. We know very little about a handful of local stars, and the fact that we detect so many giant planets close to their stars is simply because these are the easiest planetary systems to detect. Which you would know if you understood anything about astronomy. Don’t fuck with me over astronomy, you will lose every time!
    You state at the end that some mystical man will appear and change our reality and save us all with, what, a wave of a magic wand? I guess anything is allowed on this site now. Let’s all talk about how the Earth is flat and the stars are little candles held by angels.

  19. Sunspot on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:30 am 

    as for what’s in the article, it’s just another one of those “somebody predicted a bad thing once, and it didn’t happen, so bad predictions never pan out”. That’s what they said in New Orleans!
    “There is plenty of evidence showing that man-made climate change is a non-problem”. NO That is a LIE! All of the evidence clearly shows that AGW is anything but a “non-problem”.
    You sure publish some weird crap on this site. No wonder so many of these commenters are confused. It’s like the New York Post some days…

  20. JuanPee sock on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:33 am 

    JuanP posted this

    Sunspot on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:25 am
    Sunspot on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:30 am

  21. Davy on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:40 am 

    Juanpee, I don’t agree with everything Thee says but he is intelligent. You on the other hand think you are intelligent and want everyone to know it. Your intelligence is relative to your ego hence the stupidity of much of your activity.

  22. Sunspot on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:56 am 

    Instead of all the dumb articles you post here, why not read something important: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/21/world/sutter-earth-day-climate-scn/index.html

    Probably too sciency for most of you…

  23. Sunspot is juanpee on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 7:18 am 

    Juanpee you could careless about AGW or you would not have gone to Costa Rica to spend 2 weeks as a surfer bitch, Kunt.

  24. claes on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 8:30 am 

    Gaia said: “This century will be the end of Zionism/Anglo-American Imperialism. People are getting fed up of the bullshit.”
    Now get ready for chinese bullshit. They have already shown how, by the way they treat their neighbours. Land/sea grabbing, constant threats towards other contries. Loud diplomatic protests if others don’t agree with the chinese suppression of domestic ethnic groups and religions.
    Basically it’s a fascistic and deeply materialistic regime that ought to be stopped.
    Oh yes, get ready for chinese bullshit

  25. claes on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 8:47 am 

    Mak said:”Correct on all counts, Gaia.”

    Somehow I do agree, but if the alternetive to american culture, is chinese hyperaggression and state-colonialism, then I would prefere the american version where folks like you and me actually can critizise the system without fear of being put in jail or mysteriosly dissapear. The present chinese regime and industrial culture is a huge step backwards for human devellopment and for a rational and responsible manegement of our planet.

  26. Sissyfuss on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 9:27 am 

    It’s better to avoid chronicling hard dates for the unraveling of Ind Civ,for it gives denialists ammunition to declare if you’re wrong on the date, you’re wrong on your thesis. The subterfuge and obfuscation runs rampant should a predicted time fail to produce. The long emergency gathers upon us like moss on a fallen tree, in a slow and steady encircling of entropy that as natural as any process in this world.

  27. Gaia on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 12:36 pm 

    People need to take ownership of THEIR own lives rather than be easily manipulated by the rich and powerful. Humans still use the word “God” to control the illiterate and uneducated (We invented God- not the other way around).

  28. claes on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 12:58 pm 

    Siss, you got a point there

  29. Robert Inget on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 1:09 pm 

    Bad news for Mara Lago,

    The Vavilov Ice Cap is plunging into the sea at ‘breakneck’ pace (Image: Nasa) Nasa has made an ominous discovery which may show that some glaciers are melting faster than expected. Scientists have discovered that a ‘cold glacier’ in Russian High Arctic is slipping into the sea at a terrifying rate. This ‘surprising surge’ could show other glaciers are ‘less stable and resilient and more capable of collapsing and affecting sea level’. The Vavilov Ice Cap is now ‘sliding at a breakneck speed’ and has moved so fast that a giant shelf of ice protuding over the sea has doubled in size. It had moved slowly for decades, but suddenly sped up and started moving at a speed that’s ‘dozens of times faster than is typical’.

    The outlet glacier of Vavilov Ice Cap has gone from sliding 20 meters per year to 20 meters per day. What triggered this dramatic surge is still unknown, but w/ our @NASAEarth satellites data we now have a time-lapse of the damage. Dive into the situation: https://t.co/rAfFr9QAWW pic.twitter.com/czf5ku6Cmz — NASA (@NASA) April 21, 2019 What would happen if the glaciers melted? If all of the glacier ice on Earth were to melt sea levels surge by about 80 metres and ‘flood every coastal city on the planet’. If all of Earth’s temperate glaciers melted, sea level would rise by up to 0.6 metres. If all of Greenland’s glaciers melted, sea level would soar by roughly 6 metres. If all of Antarctica’s glaciers melted, sea level would rise by approximately 73 metres. If all of Alaska’s glaciers melted, sea level would rise about 0.12 metres. (Data released by the United States Geological Survey)

    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/22/nasa-spots-glacier-melt-surge-mean-sea-levels-going-rise-9285517/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

  30. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 2:01 pm 

    Island 14,000 km2, half of it gletscher.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution_Island

  31. Gaia on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 3:46 pm 

    America and Canada needs a leader like Duterte.

  32. Gaia on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 5:38 pm 

    People in all countries should stop working, rise up against their oppressors/powers behind the throne and take back everything that was stolen from them. No more pledging loyalty, pay no more taxes (taxation is theft), remove all of their life savings from the Big Banks.

  33. DerHundistLos on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 5:50 pm 

    Worth repeating:

    “It’s better to avoid chronicling hard dates for the unraveling of Ind Civ,for it gives denialists ammunition to declare if you’re wrong on the date, you’re wrong on your thesis. The subterfuge and obfuscation runs rampant should a predicted time fail to produce. The long emergency gathers upon us like moss on a fallen tree, in a slow and steady encircling of entropy that as natural as any process in this world.”

  34. DerHundistLos on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 6:07 pm 

    TRUMP ADMINISTRATION JUST ACCELERATED GLOBAL MASS EXTINCTION CRISES (what else is new?)

    The Trump administration has withdrawn funding for a large, successful conservation program – in direct contradiction of instructions from Congress.

    Unique in scale and ambition, the program comprises 22 research centers that tackle big-picture issues affecting huge swaths of the US, such as climate change, flooding and species extinction.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/08/trump-administration-sabotages-major-conservation-effort-defying-congress

  35. Real Green on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 7:14 pm 

    “Deep adaptation, post-sustainability and the possibility of societal collapse”
    https://tinyurl.com/y2hrr9zd Resource Insights
    https://tinyurl.com/ya2jnu5z Deep Adaptation: A Map for Navigating Climate Tragedy

    It is remarkable in a number of aspects. First, it was written by a professor of sustainability leadership who has been heavily involved for a long time in helping organizations including governments, nonprofits and corporations to become more sustainable. Second, the author, Jem Bendall, has now concluded the following after an exhaustive review of the most up-to-date findings about climate change: “inevitable collapse, probable catastrophe and possible extinction.” Third, his paper was rejected for publication not because it contained any errors of fact, but largely because it was too negative and thought to breed hopelessness. It is important to understand what Bendall means by “collapse” in this context. He does not necessarily mean an event taking place in a relatively short period of time all over the world all at once. Rather, he means severe disruptions of our lives and societies to a degree than renders our current institutional arrangements largely irrelevant. He believes we won’t be able to respond to the scope of suffering and change by doing things the way we are doing them now with only a few reformist tweaks. That this idea doesn’t go down well in sustainability circles should be no surprise. That’s because our current arrangements, even if “reformed” to take environmental imperatives into account, are in no way equal to the task ahead. Our existing institutions are structurally incapable of responding to what is coming and so consulting about how to reform them is largely a fool’s errand—not the way sustainability experts and consultants want to be thought of.

    “Instead, Bendall proposes a “post-sustainability” ethic. We must give up on the hope that our society can proceed largely on its current trajectory—with proper allowances, of course, for carbon emission reduction and climate change adaptation—and embrace what he calls “deep adaptation.” That agenda calls for resilience, relinquishment and restoration. The words themselves, especially “relinquishment,” convey something of the radical approach Bendall believes is now necessary. For details I implore you to read the paper. Perhaps the most interesting part of this paper is its detailed discussion of what Bendall calls “collapse denial.” Understanding the psychology behind the denial of collapse as a possibility and the opprobrium visited on those who speak of it openly is essential for grasping the current discourse on climate change (and many other existential environmental topics).”

  36. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 7:34 pm 

    Trump, the herd of bulls in the American china shop! Given another term, there will be nothing left of the US. VOTE for TRUMP!

  37. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 7:37 pm 

    Real Green aka Delusional Davy…Run-on paragraphs, tinyurls, excessive bullshit no one reads. Maybe his goats are even shunning him. lol

  38. Gaia on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 7:47 pm 

    America will get more extreme weather this year. Climate change is not going away.

  39. Anonymouse on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 8:16 pm 

    Real Delusional
    Real Dumbass
    Real ZeroHedge
    Real Cut&Pastes. His plagiarizing the words and thoughts of others, is about only thing ‘real’ about this nutcase. And his braying and feces flinging.. That is real too. Credit where it is due.

  40. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 8:40 pm 

    Gaia, few realized what the loss of Arctic ice would do to their little corner of the world. It’s thousands of miles away. Not my problem!

    Does Polar Vortex ring a wet bell? When the ice disappeared, so did the anchor to the Jet Stream. What once circled the northern hemisphere in a regular pattern has now taken on the path of a drunken sailor.

    “Polar vortex: Deadly cold weather hits the US” January 2019
    “Next BOMB CYCLONE ahead: Rapidly intensifying power storm to hammer northeastern US with high winds, rain, flooding and heavy spring snow Friday and Saturday” March 2019
    “Blizzard clobbers Plains and Midwest after blanketing the U.S. Rockies” April 2019

    tHe Jet Stream today: https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-125.61,71.81,409

    And we are only in April. What will the other 8 months bring? We shall see. Buckle up!

  41. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 9:02 pm 

    “There is plenty of evidence showing that man-made climate change is a non-problem,…”

    Denial is a hard river to live on but the author seems to want to ride the rapids…to his death.

  42. Davy on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 5:17 am 

    “Real Green aka Delusional Davy…Run-on paragraphs, tinyurls, excessive bullshit no one reads. Maybe his goats are even shunning him. Lol”

    Real Green is me makato. That was a referenced article with content. There was no commentary. The tinyurls have indicators BTW, your dumbass ruined the thread yesterday with a trashy link that spread the page. Show me the run-on’s from that profound and well written piece. What a dumbshit. You are going down the loser tube, makato.

  43. Davy on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 5:21 am 

    “Real Cut&Pastes. His plagiarizing the words and thoughts of others, is about only thing ‘real’ about this nutcase. And his braying and feces flinging.. That is real too. Credit where it is due.”

    annoymouse, you are just jealous because you are not gifted enough to make quality comments. In fact you can’t make a comment. You just stalk and prick me like your other Kanadian cousin gone AWOL, gregt. I challenge you to show documentation of plagiarism. You, makato, and juanpee are three losers that have been ruining this place for years. The Kanadian losers are almost gone.

  44. Davy on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 5:52 am 

    This is for gold back Yuan makato. LOL

    “Why Chinese Banks Are Running Out Of Dollars”
    https://tinyurl.com/y3t22ax3 zero hedge

    “Following the biggest quarterly credit injection in Chinese history, it is safe to say that China’s banks are flush with yuan loans. However, when it comes to dollar-denominated assets, it’s a different story entirely. As the WSJ points out, in the past few years, a funding problem has emerged for China’s biggest commercial banks, one which is largely outside of Beijing’s control: they’re running low on US dollars so critical to fund operations both domestically and abroad.”

    “As for who is soaking up all the local bank’s dollar assets, one culprit is China’s Belt-and-Road projects, which are overwhelmingly financed in the U.S. currency, and are sending dollars overseas in the form of Chinese loans. Additionally, Chinese property developers have a rapacious demand, too. But at the heart of this funding mismatch there is a simple cause: as the WSJ’s Mike Bird notes, “Beijing would like to be a major financial player overseas, but few borrowers have any interest in the yuan. Most international trade is accounted for in dollars, the yuan is difficult to convert and foreign owners of Chinese assets have at best an uncertain relationship with the country’s legal system.” Until that changes, expect to see the banks’ net dollar funding position continue to turn increasingly negative.”

  45. Theedrich on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 6:08 am 

    Sunspotty, you deliberately misinterpret my statements.  It is quite legitimate to extrapolate from current astronomical findings to the larger universe.  I am also quite well versed in astronomy, but the brief spaces allowed on Peakoil.com do not allow much detail.  It is your “science” that is fecal matter.  And you are also obviously unaware of the course of history.  In fact, your entire mindset is little more than ossified nineteenth-century thinking.

  46. Davy on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 6:34 am 

    Sunspotty = juanpee, Thee. You can google the board and see his sock relationship. juanpee has attacked you with other socks also as well as his original handle he rarely uses anymore.

  47. SUPERTRUMP on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 6:57 am 

    It already has, we just are not aware of it here in make believe land!
    Ocean thermal ineratia is the term. There is a delayed response because it is a vast massive dynamic system. Our actions today may take decades to translate to impact.
    Keep on denying, it works for BAU.

  48. Antius on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 7:55 am 

    “You seem to think that we have sussed out all the details of planetary formation to the point that we can state that there is something unusual about our Solar System, and that is a completely false notion. We know very little about a handful of local stars, and the fact that we detect so many giant planets close to their stars is simply because these are the easiest planetary systems to detect. Which you would know if you understood anything about astronomy.”

    Current methods of planet detection do introduce a detection bias for hot Jupiter’s and compact planetary systems consisting of relatively large bodies.

    However, the sheer number of such detections and the relative absence of sol-type star systems with wide orbits and a clear division between small rocky inner and large gaseous outer planets; is beginning to look like more than a detection anomaly. Another oddity is that our solar system has circularised orbits which have stabilised in resonances of the Jovian orbital period, whereas many of the extrasolar planets detected have relatively elliptical orbits. The majority of planets discovered are larger than Earth and the most common category appears to be sub-Neptune sized worlds. Compared to sol, there is a tendency for orbits to be more compact, making moons a relative rarity.

    Our solar system may indeed turn out to be relatively unusual; though it is too soon to answer that question with certainty.

  49. Sissyfuss on Wed, 24th Apr 2019 8:42 am 

    Thanks for your support, my brother Derhund. The purposeful destruction of the natural world by the Trump Adminstration is unfettered and powerless to stop at this time. Our lizardbrained dinosaur of a president thinks he can actually take his ill-gotten gains with him to an imagined afterlife and proceeds to gather his lucre with his tiny little hands nonstop. The epiphany needed to alter our path towards the 6th Mass Extinction is forming in the minds and hearts of the youth who can see what type of a world they will be inheriting but unfortunately, they don’t have the political agency to counter the damaging effects of infinite growth. Our species is at the crossroads of survival pondering the correct path to be taken while simultaneously,we have grown too large to agree on any path. It feels ominous, to say the least.

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