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Resources Are Almost 5 Times as Abundant as They Were in 1980

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Humanity is enjoying a world of increasingly cheap and ever more abundant mineral, argicultural, forestry and energy resources reports a brilliant new study, the Simon Abundance Index. This analysis by Marian Tupy,* editor of Human Progress at the Cato Institute, and Professor Gale Pooley from Brigham Young University – Hawaii uses data on 50 different commodities to track their price trajectories over the past 37 years from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. They find in real price terms their basket of commodities decreased by an average of 36.3 percent between 1980 and 2017.

That’s great, but their breakthrough insight is that, since 1980, global real hourly income rate per capita has grown by more than 80 percent, which means that the commodities that took 60 minutes of work to buy in 1980 now take only 21 minutes of labor to buy in 2017. As a result, the “time-price” of their basket of commodities has fallen by 64.7 percent.

Tupy and Pooley also devise a price elasticity of population (PEP) measure that finds that resource abundance increases faster than population does. In economics, they explain, elasticity is a measure of a variable’s sensitivity to a change in another variable. They report:

Between 1980 and 2017, the time-price of our basket of commodities declined by 64.7 percent. Over the same time period, the world’s population increased from 4.46 billion to 7.55 billion. That’s a 69.3 percent increase. The PEP indicates that the time-price of our basket of commodities declined by 0.934 percent for every 1 percent increase in population.

[P]eople often assume that population growth leads to resource depletion. We found the opposite. Over the past 37 years, every additional human being born on our planet appears to have made resources proportionately more plentiful for the rest of us.

Tupy and Pooley combine their findings with regard to time-price and PEP trends to derive the Simon Abundance Index (SAI). The index is named in honor of University of Maryland economist Julian Simon. Simon famously bet Stanford University population bomber Paul Ehrlich and his colleagues that the real prices of a basket of commodities chosen by Ehrlich priced $1,000 would decline between 1980 and 1990. In October 1990, Ehrlich mailed Simon a check for $576.07, meaning that the price of the commodities had fallen by more than 50 percent.

SAITupy & Pooley

The new SAI, explain Tupy and Pooley, represents the ratio of the change in population over the change in the time-price, times 100, with the base year at 1980 and a base value of 100. They report that “between 1980 and 2017, resource availability increased at a compounded annual growth rate of 4.32 percent. That means that the Earth was 379.6 percent more abundant in 2017 than it was in 1980.”

They also report that the SAI rose to 479.6 in 2018, meaning the Earth was nearly five times more plentiful with respect to the 50 commodities they track than it it was when Ehrlich and Simon laid their famous wager. What about the future? Tupy and Pooley calculate if current trends continue that “our planet will be 83 percent more abundant in 2054 than it was in 2017.”

“The world is a closed system in the way that a piano is a closed system. The instrument has only 88 notes, but those notes can be played in a nearly infinite variety of ways. The same applies to our planet,” write the authors. “The Earth’s atoms may be fixed, but the possible combinations of those atoms are infinite. What matters, then, is not the physical limits of our planet, but human freedom to experiment and reimagine the use of resources that we have.”

The SAI devised by Tupy and Pooley elegantly refutes the primitive zero-sum intuitions peddled by the likes of Ehrlich and his acolytes that afflict so much of popular and policy discourse with respect to population and resource availability trends.

*Disclosure: Marian Tupy and I are working together on book that tracks and explains nearly 100 global population, income, commodity, and environmental trends.

reason.com



77 Comments on "Resources Are Almost 5 Times as Abundant as They Were in 1980"

  1. Jef on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 7:54 pm 

    Elegantly puting magic as the new reality.

    Not only are we not using up the resources of a finite earth but those resources are actually increasing.

  2. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:08 pm 

    Koch brothers “Reason” strikes again!

    They are scared they are going to get their lollipops taken away!

    LMFAO!

  3. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:15 pm 

    Here is an actual chart of commodity prices..
    https://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/

    The oil price is correlated to all commodities..And as you can easily see the prices are double what they were during the 20th century..

    Why are prices so much higher in the 21st century? Scarcity

  4. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:19 pm 

    Notice in this article they don’t tell you what commodities they are using that they are claiming have fallen in price..And they say they are using IMF and world bank data without providing any links..This is total BS and fake news..

    You can look up any commodity and its historical chart and see its doubled in price over the last 30 years..

  5. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:22 pm 

    During the mid/late 20th century (1960-1999), a barrel of oil cost $19 on average; during the years immediately prior to the Great Recession (2000-2008), the average price of a barrel of oil had increased to $47; and during the years immediately following the Great Recession (2010-2012), the average price of a barrel of oil had further increased to $81. During the same three time periods, the average price of a metric ton of copper increased from $3,085, to $3,713, to $6,817; the average price of a metric ton of iron ore increased from $36, to $57, to $124; and the average price of a metric ton of potash increased from $114, to $185, to $343. (Prices are inflation adjusted.)

    The simple fact is that we cannot grow our global economy and improve our global material living standards on $55 oil, $6,817 copper, $124 iron ore, and $343 potash like we did on $19 oil, $3,085 copper, $36 iron ore, and $114 potash. It should come as no surprise that our Non Renewable Resource-dependent global economy experienced the Great Recession during 2009. Nor should it come as a surprise that we have yet to recover from the Great Recession. Nor will our industrialized and industrializing economies ever recover, so long as price levels associated with the vast majority of Non Renewable Resources remain at their inordinately high levels.

    Christpoher Clugston
    Scarcity: Humanity’s Final Chapter (2012)

    Source: World Bank
    https://imgur.com/a/zb8GjA9

  6. makati1 on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:43 pm 

    MOB. 2017 Inflation adjusted prices or oil:

    1946 = $20.12/bbl in 2017 dollars
    2017 = $42.63/bbl

    https://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/Historical_Oil_Prices_Table.asp

    Did doubling the real cost of oil make it impossible to grow? Of course not. It is still undervalued by at least $1,000/bbl. We have just grown used to cheap oil slaves. That is about over.

    As for the other resources, they are getting more expensive because they are harder to find, mine and refine which takes more energy. We don’t recycle the old, we just bury it in a land fill. Now we will learn to live with less and like it.

  7. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:50 pm 

    Fox News Analyst Judge Napolitano: I Expect Donald Trump Jr. to Be Indicted

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-analyst-judge-napolitano-i-expect-donald-trump-jr-to-be-indicted

  8. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 9:04 pm 

    What did Sigmund Freud and Bill Cosby have in common?

    They both explored the unconscious!

  9. onlooker on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 1:39 am 

    Humanity is enjoying a world of increasingly cheap and ever more abundant mineral, argicultural, forestry and energy resources reports a brilliant new study, the Simon Abundance Index. —
    What a Croc!
    Figures Julian Simon, the same who says that human overpopulation is great because, the most important resource is human ingenuity . Idiot

  10. anon on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 2:57 am 

    Humanity is enjoying a world of increasingly cheap and ever more abundant _supplies of bullshit, self-serving fantasy, and doublespeak_
    …corrected it for you guys.
    i suppose the value in posting these kind of articles is to keep an eye on what the kool-aid drinkers are saying lately.

  11. Shortend on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 5:50 am 

    Thank God, Suppose Jesus is doing his mircle of loaves of bread and fish on a worldwide scale….

  12. Sissyfuss on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 9:13 am 

    “Over the past 37 years, every additional human being born on planet appears to have made resources proportionally more plentiful for the rest of us.” This rubbish is so far from the truth of present day conditions that one feels awestruck by the blatant dishonesty and manipulation engendered by the elites to hold on to their riches. They’re not giving up anything without a fight and they know, as the French citizenry has shown, that people will not sacrifice their wasteful lifestyle for something as nebulous as ecosphere survival. Doomed as doomed can be.

  13. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 9:22 am 

    “reason.com”

    That about sums it up.

  14. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 9:29 am 

    Europe is collapsing in real time!

    Germany is on the verge of recession, France is seemingly in the verge of civil war, Italy are getting closer to abandoning the euro and bringing down the monetary house of cards in the EU!

  15. Donald J Chump on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 12:03 pm 

    Europe is a joke.
    It is simply West Asia.

    Why is it the French, Germans, English don’t like to be called West Asians? Calling it “the West” isn’t much different.

  16. Anonymous on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 12:31 pm 

    The US actually had a week of net exports of crude and products. I think it is mostly random variation (probably no crude tankers came in this week, when usually we average 2-3 per week). But still, it is rather momentous to have an individual week turn to net exports.

    http://ir.eia.gov/wpsr/overview.pdf (see line 33, bottom of page 1)

  17. Cloggie on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 12:51 pm 

    Europe is a joke.

    Your “countrymen” must have a great sense of humor then, Donald J. Chimp…

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QRR1DpiSW0w/VU5ek1Q9x9I/AAAAAAAABgs/k1RagPHYVuc/s1600/boatpeople.jpg

    But I fear that the best part of the joke is already behind us, regardless of how keen you all are to be with your former white masters. At least Dolfie smiled and waved at Jesse, Salvini simply lets them drown.

    The Global Great Divorce is next.

  18. Outcast_Searcher on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 3:13 pm 

    True, the Cassandras always assume the worst, totally discount technological improvements, and many constantly and completely incorrectly predict doom is right in our face.

    OTOH, pretending BAU growth re population can continue forever, or even for centuries, without massive problems like we’re seeing likely spiraling completely out of control.

    Why take the risk. Why not use our windfalls re resource costs, better yields, etc. to do things like rapidly move toward EV’s with a big CO2 tax, and begin moving toward a lower consumption lifestyle?

    But, no, that might be too “inconvenient” not to maximize our wealth now, and some folks won’t get re-elected.

    This article is an example why I think the short term Cassandras will continue to be 90+% wrong in the short run, but I’m very pessimistic about the mess humans are leaving themselves (and the biosphere) in over the middle (several decades to centuries) to longer term.

  19. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 3:36 pm 

    Outcast

    University of California: Environmental Science & Technology (Malyshkina 2010)

    1. It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives

    2. World oil production will peak between 2010-2030

    3. World proven oil reserves gone by 2041

    https://www.scribd.com/document/394656677/Future-Sustainability-Forecasting-by-Exchange-Markets-Basic-Theory-and-an-Application-Malyshkina-2010

    A global energy assessment (Jefferson 2015)

    The World in the 21st Century is faced with huge challenges that go far beyond, but importantly include, energy challenges on the supply, access, and use sides. So severe are these challenges, mainly arising from the demands of a rapidly increasing human population on the Earth’s limited resources, that the future existence of large numbers of people may be threatened with extinction. In that sense, we may be observing the twilight of the Anthropocene (Human) Age.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/394043449/A-Global-Energy-Assessment-Jefferson-2015

    Projection of world fossil fuels by country (Mohr, 2015) Fuel

    Over 900 different regions and subfuel situations were modeled using three URR scenarios of Low, High, and Best Guess. All three scenarios indicate that the consistent strong growth in world fossil fuel production is likely to cease after 2025. The Low and Best Guess scenarios are projected to peak before 2025 and decline thereafter. The High scenario is anticipated to have a strong growth to 2025 before stagnating in production for 50 years and thereafter declining.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015

    IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000

    Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790

    There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html

    Wood Mackenzie warns of oil and gas supply crunch
    https://www.ft.com/content/a1eb0e58-d7a4-11e8-ab8e-6be0dcf18713

    Imminent peak oil could burst US, global economic bubble – study
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/nov/19/peak-oil-economicgrowth

    German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
    https://www.scribd.com/document/387459134/german

  20. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 4:35 pm 

    Clogg

    The USA didn’t start the fire..It was always burning since the worlds been turning..

  21. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 4:48 pm 

    the earth is flat

    ((supertards)) lie about everything including existence of nukular weapons. this is what nedertard the high school dropout said.

  22. makati1 on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:10 pm 

    Sissyfuss, most Americans are too stupid to see that their lifestyle is killing the ecosystem and their family’s future. Greed and insanity rule there and in most Western countries.

    The US consumes more resources than China, which has four times the population, but refuses to even consider reducing that consumption. Soon, the US will reduce by force. The Great Leveling is underway.

  23. Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:16 pm 

    “Rickards: The Makings Of A Global Debt Crisis Are Now In Place”
    https://tinyurl.com/ycrykozl

    “Synchronized global growth has turned into a synchronized global slowdown. Growth has already turned negative in two of the world’s largest economies, Japan and Germany, and is slowing rapidly in the world’s biggest economies, China and the U.S. China may report something like 6.8% GDP growth, but when all the waste in its economy is stripped out the actual growth is probably closer to 4.5%. That’s still growth, but not nearly enough to sustain China’s massive debt overload. Its debt is growing faster than the economy and its debt-to-GDP ratio is even worse than the U.S. For a sense of perspective, China had about $2 trillion total debt in 2000. Today, it’s about $40 trillion. That’s an unbelievable 2,000% increase in under 20 years. Growth is also slowing in the U.S. The 2009–2018 recovery has already been the weakest recovery in U.S. history despite a few good quarters here and there. And there’s little reason to expect it to pick up from here. GDP expanded 3.5% last quarter, which looks good on paper. But the trend is pointing down. Since this April, we’ve seen growth of 4.2% (Q2), and 3.5% (Q3). This trend tends to confirm the view that 2018 growth was a “Trump bump” from the tax cuts that will not be repeated. And Q4 GDP will probably be lower than Q3. Goldman Sachs, for example, projects fourth-quarter GDP to expand at 2.5%. It further expects growth to drop to 2.2% by the second quarter of 2019, and to 1.6% by the end of the year. Global slowdowns of the type we’re seeing now are exacerbated by the escalating trade wars and a new Cold War between the U.S. and China. But while global growth may be slowing down, debt creation is not. I mentioned China. But it goes far beyond China. According to the Institute of International Finance (IIF), total debt held by economies it tracks (both mature and emerging) rose to a record $247 trillion in the first quarter of 2018. That’s up 11% over the same period in 2017.”

    “This is a crisis waiting to happen. The combination of slow or negative growth and unprecedented debt is a recipe for a new debt crisis, which could easily slide into another global financial crisis. In some areas of China, home prices are being slashed 30%. And The Wall Street Journal reports that October auto sales fell 12% year over year. The Chinese stock market has also fallen 25% year to date, which places it squarely in a bear market.”

  24. Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:18 pm 

    “The US consumes more resources than China, which has four times the population”

    references? LIAR

  25. Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:55 pm 

    Oops, sorry for being such a dickhead again makati1.

    https://tinyurl.com/ycab998x
    “It is well known that Americans consume far more natural resources and live much less sustainably than people from any other large country of the world. “A child born in the United States will create thirteen times as much ecological damage over the course of his or her lifetime than a child born in Brazil,” reports the Sierra Club’s Dave Tilford, adding that the average American will drain as many resources as 35 natives of India and consume 53 times more goods and services than someone from China.”

  26. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:57 pm 

    China is holding 800k Muslims in internment camps

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/419855-state-dept-official-china-holding-800k-uighurs-others-in-internment

    Those sick fuckers!

    Mak talks about brainwashing in the US?

  27. This is JuanP on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:13 pm 

    Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 6:55 pm Oops, sorry for being such a dickhead again makati1. https://tinyurl.com/ycab998x “It is well known that Americans consume far more natural resources and live much less sustainably than people from any other large country of the world. “A child born in the United States will create thirteen times as much ecological damage over the course of his or her lifetime than a child born in Brazil,” reports the Sierra Club’s Dave Tilford, adding that the average American will drain as many resources as 35 natives of India and consume 53 times more goods and services than someone from China.”

  28. Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:22 pm 

    For those who care I am signing off. I am going to read on my new book:

    Jeremy Lent

    “The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity’s Search for Meaning ”

    Any posts using my name are JuanP.

  29. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:31 pm 

    muzzies are supremacists like SENTAPBVs (supremacist extremist nazi tard preachers bumpskied victimhood). Asia Bibi in Pakistan drank from a cup and gave to muzzies to drink. the muzzies said a christian is lower form of life and Asia contaminated the water. eventually it became a case of blasphemy and she was sentenced to death.

    all this is in the quran and they quote it liberally.

    China is doing good keep muzzies under control

  30. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:33 pm 

    the muzzies know no defeat. if there’s a total defeat of ISIS every single day, other muzzies would feel no loss.

    this muzzies having wet dream of conquering the world

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8HsoOIVZc

  31. This is JuanP on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:34 pm 

    One more post before I tuck myself in for the night at 8:30pm.

    I know what y’all are thinking. What difference does it make whether I post as myself or use my sock puppet “This is JuanP”?

    Well it doesn’t really make any difference at all. I’m still a dickhead for calling makati1 a LIAR.

    Nighty night y’all.

  32. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:38 pm 

    for those who care i’m also signing off
    i’ll read this book by supertard

    Robert Spencer

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-history-of-jihad-robert-spencer/1128170822?ean=9781682616598#/

    any post is sock’s

  33. Mike Hunt on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:46 pm 

    “For those who care I am signing off. I am going to read on my new book:”

    Who does this guy think that he is? Kim Kardashian?

    Ditto for the Russian. (probably the same lunatic)

  34. makati1 on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 8:11 pm 

    MOB…Even if what you claim is anywhere near the truth, which it is not, just American propaganda, look at this:

    800K out of 1,400,000K Chinese = ~0.06% of the population.

    The US has over 2 million people in US prisons today. That is at least 0.6% or 10 times by percentage as China. Most of US prisoners are in for non-violent crimes.

    The Chinese “camps” are reeducation camps, not prisons. You should look at the top 8 sources of this propaganda. You would find that they ALL originate in the US or UK. If they are really concentration camps, why are here no other articles outside the imperial propaganda mills?

    https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcasa&type=E111US0G91208&p=Chinese+retention+camps

    Prisons are a “for profit” business in America, the land of 1.3 million lawyers and over 24,000 laws. And you claim you are “Free”? LMAO

  35. makati1 on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 8:12 pm 

    Mike, you are correct.

  36. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 8:53 pm 

    Mak

    China has the worlds largest debt..You can only build so many ghost cities on loans through through shadow banks..

  37. boney joe on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 8:56 pm 

    @ Mike Hunt

    You, sir, are an astute observer.

  38. Mike Hunt on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 9:02 pm 

    MOB,

    The U.S. is using shadow banking loans to bulldoze ghost cities, like Detroit and Chicago. China is borrowing for the future, not for the past.

  39. JuanP on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 10:27 pm 

    For all those who care, I am going to go watch TV now and any posts in my name are by our regular lunatics. Don’t miss me too much! Nighty night! Sweet dreams! ROFLMFAO!

  40. JR on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 11:05 pm 

    An absolutely useless and disingenuous ‘comparison’. WTF happened to this website? Cornicopian b.s. is the new mantra? There is now nothing even worth reading here. Propaganda, dishonesty, deception and bullshit. Global resources are in DECLINE worldwide (everything from fresh water to fish, minerals, timber, resources). The ‘abundance’ claim used above is total bullshit. Like most things I’m finding on this website. JFC – what happened to this site? Did it change ownership? Are you depending upon Big Oil for revenue? WTF???

  41. Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 11:17 pm 

    Good night JuanP, my best friend ever. I miss the old days before I lost my mind. Please forgive me.

  42. makati1 on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 1:31 am 

    MOB, do Americans EVER look in the mirror? All I read and see is finger-pointing hypocrisy. The “exceptional” country is committing suicide. It is destroying itself. The Great Leveking I talk about. China has the median per capita income now. THAT is the level TPTB are shooting for all over the world, or less, so they can have their One World Government.

    How can you compare China with the US as negative? China spends about 1/5th the money on their military/security system that the US does. China is buying resources. The US is trying to steal them by killing millions and destroying countries. America, a rogue terrorist country.

    Granted China built “ghost cities” but I doubt that it is not all in a plan for the future. Better to build and give jobs to millions in construction, than to destroy countries and give the profits to the elite, like the US does. How many cities can China build for $1,000,000,000,000. per year, the US military/security budget? Hint: They could build a New York City every year!

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/16/nyc-total-property-value-surges-over-1-trillion-setting-a-record.html

    Come back in 10 years and we can discuss the “waste” you see in China. That is, IF the US still exists and IF you are still able to use the internet. I would not bet on those two being possible.

  43. This is JuanP on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 4:58 am 

    Mike Hunt on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 7:46 pm “For those who care I am signing off. I am going to read on my new book:” Who does this guy think that he is? Kim Kardashian? Ditto for the Russian. (probably the same lunatic)
    boney joe on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 8:56 pm @ Mike Hunt You, sir, are an astute observer.
    Mike Hunt on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 9:02 pm MOB, The U.S. is using shadow banking loans to bulldoze ghost cities, like Detroit and Chicago. China is borrowing for the future, not for the past.

    Davy on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 11:17 pm Good night JuanP, my best friend ever. I miss the old days before I lost my mind. Please forgive me.

    JuanP on Thu, 6th Dec 2018 10:27 pm For all those who care, I am going to go watch TV now and any posts in my name are by our regular lunatics. Don’t miss me too much! Nighty night! Sweet dreams! ROFLMFAO!

  44. Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:04 am 

    Good morning dumbass. Why don’t you go grab a cup of coffee first. We’ll wait for you.

  45. This is JuanP on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:10 am 

    Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:04 am Good morning dumbass. Why don’t you go grab a cup of coffee first. We’ll wait for you.

  46. Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:17 am 

    Are you going to copy and paste everything I say this morning stupid?

  47. This is JuanP on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:18 am 

    Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:17 am
    Are you going to copy and paste everything I say this morning stupid?

  48. Anonymouse on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:59 am 

    We all know who the undisputed champion of cutting and pasting is, dumbass! Now how about you saunter off and tend to your fantasy farm. Im sure there are plenty of old tires, lawn-chairs and pieces of abandoned and rusted pickups dotting your ‘estate’, that are in dire need of re-arranging.

  49. This is JuanP on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 6:03 am 

    “Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:17 am Are you going to copy and paste everything I say this morning stupid? This is JuanP on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:18 am Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 5:17 am Are you going to copy and paste everything I say this morning stupid?”

  50. Davy on Fri, 7th Dec 2018 6:05 am 

    LOL, anonymouse the sock cop is back after a month of irrelevance. I wonder if he will have anything to say about all the JuanP sock’s being played? anon whines about identity theft and socks until it is his gang member then it is ok. LOON

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