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How big a problem is idling?

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Idling your car — at home, in a drive-thru line, at a red light — is environmentally harmful, and also largely unnecessary.

How bad is idling?

When a gasoline-powered vehicle is idling, it is in its least efficient mode. It’s doing nothing but sitting there, burning fuel and sending emissions into the atmosphere.

Natural Resources Canada says if most Canadian drivers limited idling to three minutes a day, over the course of a year, 1.4 million fewer tonnes of CO2 emissions would go into the atmosphere.

It would save money, too. For every 10 minutes of idling, the average three-litre engine vehicle loses more than a litre of fuel, according to NRCan.

It’s even worse with diesel buses. Research done at the University of Waterloo in Ontario found a diesel bus loses four to eight litres of fuel every day to idling — or up to 2,000 litres per year. Amir Khajepour, the mechanical engineering professor behind the research, said that’s the equivalent of 10,000 kilograms of greenhouse gases per bus per year.

Doesn’t my engine need to warm up in the winter?

It depends. Temperatures vary across Canada in winter, but Natural Resources Canada says even in cold weather, it’s not necessary to warm up your car for more than two to three minutes.

What are cities doing about idling?

The first city to pass an idling control bylaw was Toronto, back in 1996. It was brought in to help reduce air pollution. Now, at least 67 cities and municipalities across Canada have anti-idling bylaws. But they vary. Most of these jurisdictions limit idling to three to five minutes, but some allow five, 10, even 15 minutes. Inuvik allows 30 minutes of idling.

All of these jurisdictions exempt emergency vehicles, as well as many service or refrigerated vehicles (which need to idle to keep the cooling process working).

What else are cities doing?

Toronto also led the way in terms of banning the construction of new drive-thrus. Since its move in 2002, at least 26 Canadian municipalities have followed suit.

How are the bylaws enforced? 

In many cities, anti-idling bylaws are enforced through a complaints-based process — i.e. someone makes a complaint to the city, which issues a warning or a fine.

In 2018, the City of Toronto issued warnings to about 2,000 people, but no fines. That same year, Edmonton issued three tickets, while Vancouver issued 118.

Does stop-start technology help?

A lot of idling can’t be helped — like when you’re waiting at a red light. You might think stopping and restarting your engine uses more fuel than leaving the car running, but it doesn’t. Starting your engine uses less fuel than idling for 10 seconds.

NRCan estimates that a vehicle with stop-start technology — which automatically turns off a vehicle’s engine when it idles, and restarts when the driver lifts their foot off the brake — saves anywhere from $260 to $1,540 in fuel costs and reduces carbon emissions by 610 kg to 3,540 kg over 10 years. That’s the equivalent of taking one compact car off the road for a year. (NRCan breaks down the savings here.)

What’s being done about buses and delivery trucks?

The University of Waterloo’s Khajepour is working on a type of stop-start technology that would still allow a refrigerated truck to stay cool, or keep a city bus comfortable in all seasons. At a stop, the engine would turn off and the vehicle would draw on a battery.

“Instead of running the engine at its lowest efficiency [i.e. idling] in order to run the refrigeration system of a food delivery truck, you can charge your battery when the engine is at 40 per cent efficiency,” Khajepour said. “So when the truck stops, and the engine is off … we can use the energy that is already stored in that battery to run the refrigeration system.”

Stephanie Hogan



The Big Picture: Historical carbon emissions

Most of the talk around carbon emissions focuses on which countries are currently releasing the most greenhouse gases. In that scenario, China is first by quite a margin, accounting for nearly 25 per cent of the global total — a fact that has given many politicians, in the U.S. and Canada especially, license to downplay their countries’ own emissions. But if you take the longer view, the picture looks a little different. Between 1751 and 2017, the U.S. accounted for 25 per cent of global emissions, followed by countries that now make up the European Union.

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Is population control the answer to fixing climate change?

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Often, when discussion turns to modifying our behaviours in order to keep the planet from warming 1.5 C or 2 C above pre-industrial levels — the threshold that would result in widespread damage — one word creeps up more often than not: overpopulation.

The argument is that fewer people on Earth would mean fewer greenhouse gas emissions, thus helping avert the worst effects of climate change. But experts say population control isn’t the answer.

“Population issues certainly are an important dimension of how society … will be able to cope with this crisis over the course of this century,” said Kathleen Mogelgaard, a consultant on population dynamics and climate change and an adjunct professor at the University of Maryland.

“But it’s not a silver bullet, and it’s certainly not the main cause of climate change. And fully addressing population growth is not, on its own, going to be able to solve the climate crisis.”

For one thing, a larger population doesn’t necessarily produce more CO2 emissions, at least not on a per capita basis.

Michael Barnard, chief strategist with TFIE Strategy Inc., which specializes in energy and low-carbon solutions, points to China as an example: While the country of 1.4 billion people is the No. 1 emitter of CO2 in the world, on a per capita basis, it produces far fewer emissions than either the U.S. (the world’s second-top emitter) or Canada (the 10th).

According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, the U.S.’s CO2 emissions from fuel combustion per capita is 15 tonnes, and Canada sits at 14.9 tonnes. China? It’s at just 6.4 tonnes per capita — a trend that is starting to drop. That’s also the case for India, Barnard said.

Between India and China, “one-third of the [world’s] population already have lower per capita CO2 emissions than we do, and they’re dropping faster,” he said.

Not only that, but global birth rates are actually declining. The United Nations had previously projected that the global population would reach 11.2 billion by 2100, but recently updated that forecast to 10.9 billion.

Darrell Bricker, a fellow at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy and co-author of Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline, said a big driver of the decline in population is urbanization.

In the 1960s, roughly 33 per cent of the population lived in a city; now it’s 54 per cent. The UN projects that by 2050, that number will climb to 68 per cent. And when people move to the city, more women join the workforce and overall, people tend to have fewer children.

As a result, instead of the population continuously increasing, Bricker believes it will peak at around eight or nine billion people around mid-century and then begin to decline.

Rather than looking at population control as the biggest factor in the battle against climate change, experts say it’s about looking at better education for women, adopting cleaner energy and changing our overall consumption patterns, especially in developed countries.

“Just because we slow population growth, if we continue to use coal-fired power plants to generate electricity, or if we continue to cut down forests at the rate that we’re cutting down forests, those are going to be challenges regardless of what the population is,” said Mogelgaard.

Nicole Mortillaro

 



75 Comments on "How big a problem is idling?"

  1. Davy ID Fraud on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 1:39 pm 

    This is from the lunatic:

    JuanP ID theft on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 12:02 pm

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  2. JuanP garbage on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 1:50 pm 

    This is from stupid:

    Davy ID Fraud said This is from the lunatic: JuanP ID theft on Tue, 1…

    Rik said Im a muzzie lover. I chomp on muzzies dik like n…

    #bantheasshole#

  3. Davy garbage on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 4:54 pm 

    This is from the lunatic:

    JuanP garbage said This is from stupid….

    #banthelunatic#

  4. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:00 pm 

    Davy, “at my age” I am infirm because you wish it? Sorry twinkles but I am in very good health and plan to visit the Police State again next year. I travel alone and manage two suitcases and a carry-on without help.

    I come from a long lived family who never pass before age 85 and most make it to 90+. I never smoked, used drugs or consumed much alcohol. I eat what I want, take a multivitamin/mineral daily and an over-the-counter pill for my skin allergy. I live in the tropics now and that aggravates it. Not life threatening, just annoying.

    You will never make it to my age as you live in the Monsanto/DOW Chemical/GMO saturated country where everything is poisoned before you even consume it. Your government works on many levels to kill you and you pay them to do it. Think about that.

    BTW: WE ALL die. Money or fame doesn’t change that. It is only a matter of when, where and how. Meanwhile, I am enjoying my retirement while I watch the USS DEBT sink into the 3rd world or worse. Well deserved and about time!

  5. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:10 pm 

    Davy, you are pulling weird ideas out of your ass aren’t you? You have no intelligent rebuttals, just putdown and bullshit.

    “You are the one in an unstable turd world country. What happens if Duterte decides he does not like Americans in the P’s. Oops makato is homeless. dumbass”

    NOT going to happen. Duterte has no say in what happens here in things that matter, just like Trump in the US. The power is in the billionaires hands and they like American$.

    “The total number of US citizens living in the Philippines is more than 220,000, with estimates reaching as high as 600,000.” WIKI

    Americans own many businesses here and the government has special plans to accommodate them, including investment and retirement. That will not change. Once again you are talking out of your ass.

  6. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:13 pm 

    Difficult living in a dying country isn’t it Davy? And your only life boat, Italy, is sinking right along side. The West is history. This is China’s Century. Adjust. LOL.

  7. Davy on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:34 pm 

    “Davy, “at my age” I am infirm because you wish it? Sorry twinkles but I am in very good health and plan to visit the Police State again next year. I travel alone and manage two suitcases and a carry-on without help.”
    What are you talking about makato?? Do you have a reference?

    “I come from a long lived family who never pass before age 85 and most make it to 90+.”
    Who cares?? Not me. Do you want a medal?

    “You will never make it to my age as you live in the Monsanto/DOW Chemical/GMO saturated country where everything is poisoned before you even consume it. Your government works on many levels to kill you and you pay them to do it. Think about that.”
    LOL

    “BTW: WE ALL die. Money or fame doesn’t change that. It is only a matter of when, where and how. Meanwhile, I am enjoying my retirement while I watch the USS DEBT sink into the 3rd world or worse. Well deserved and about time!”
    Who cares?? Not me. Do you want a medal?

    “Davy, you are pulling weird ideas out of your ass aren’t you? You have no intelligent rebuttals, just putdown and bullshit.”
    Dumbass, do you have a reference so I know WTF you are talking about. You definitely are getting senile.

    “You are the one in an unstable turd world country. What happens if Duterte decides he does not like Americans in the P’s. Oops makato is homeless. dumbass”
    “NOT going to happen. Duterte has no say in what happens here in things that matter, just like Trump in the US. The power is in the billionaires hands and they like American$.”
    You have no idea what is going to happen, makato. I could happen and then you would be homeless.

    “Difficult living in a dying country isn’t it Davy? And your only life boat, Italy, is sinking right along side. The West is history. This is China’s Century. Adjust. LOL.”
    Asia is one step ahead of the US but you are so blind you can’t see it. You are nearly dead so it does not matter much. Go play on the beach with all that plastic junk that litters beaches in the P’s.

  8. Anonymouse on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:47 pm 

    Mak, delusional davy has NO Italian ‘lifeboat’ of any kind. Unless he owns an Italian made rowboat he toodles around his swamp in, he has nothing.

    The entire ‘Italian doomstead’ story, is as credible as these howlers:

    -The ‘Italian wife-‘
    -The 500, or 1000 or w/e, acres
    -The private jet
    -The cow, the bees’, the orchards
    -The solar array
    -His sanity.
    -The REAL GREEN (goatshit)
    -His military career
    -Everything else he has ever said, or will say.

    None of his claims, and especially his Italian hideaway, are remotely credible. What accounts for prick-faces fascination with Italy? Who knows, or cares. Maybe he had some Italian dressing one time and liked it so much, he bought the country. Or so he believes….

    The turd will be shitting his drawers when East St. Louis decides to drop by for dinner on his ‘farm’, and find only him, his rusty shotgun (no shells), and some emaciated farm animals that are in even worse shape than his zombie fellow missorianssszzz

    I wouldn’t even try to humor him by agreeing with his various fantasies. It only encourages him to make up even more unbelievable goatshit.

  9. Davy on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 5:53 pm 

    Lol, annoy, you have been triggered over me for a couple of years now. Don’t you think you should seek help? I mean come on, your life must be miserable with this stalking obsession.

  10. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 6:08 pm 

    Anon, you are probably correct. I think 99.999% of the bullshit he spews is lies. As he admitted, you can be anything on the internet as there is no way to prove it. Al he needs is a cheap used I-phone and a connection.

    He does show all the signs of psychotic behavior and a very delusional world view. If he is not committed, he should be.

    Yes, the worst is just beginning in the US. St.Louis is a hot bed of gangs and drugs and will explode, as you said, as the financial system crumbles. The US is sliding into a depression. It is already a recession under the lies.

  11. More Davy Projections on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 6:13 pm 

    “you have been triggered over me for a couple of years now.”

    “Don’t you think you should seek help?”

    “your life must be miserable with this stalking obsession.”

  12. JuanP garbage on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 6:27 pm 

    This is from stupid who is very triggered so much so he has trashed the forum because of it

    #bantheasswipe#

  13. Davy on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 6:32 pm 

    “Anon, you are probably correct. I think 99.999% of the bullshit he spews”

    LMFAO, the last of the gang whining over Davy. You guys really need to get a life. Annoy and juanpee say next to nothing intelligent. I dare you to reference something. Makato is minimally intelligent. Mostly he copies and pastes cherry picked junk then gives a one-liner commentary like “slip slidin”. What a jerk.

  14. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 7:09 pm 

    Davy, keep proving your delusional pychosis to the world. If the authorities don’t get you, the gangs will.

  15. Davy garbage on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 7:23 pm 

    This is from the lunatic who is very triggered so much so he has trashed the forum because of it.

    #banthelunatic#

  16. Anonymouse on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 7:28 pm 

    Mak, his amerikan attitude is likely why he lives alone in his isolated backwater dumpstead. We’ve noted this before, but, if he attempted to integrate with what passes for ‘normal’ society in amerika itself, he would be either find himself quickly a) shot, or b) sporting permanent black-eyes, split lip, missing teeth etc.

    And for all this, he has the temerity to claim some kind of intellectual and moral superiority over…..well….everything. Considering the source, that is downright delusional, if I may say. LoL.

    Time for him to get the mental health assistance he so desperately needs.

  17. makati1 on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 7:30 pm 

    Davy, the “who cares? Do you want a medal?” reply is another one of your hypocritical remarks. Obviously you do care because you keep bringing up my age and location as a put down to my comments that point out the facts about the sinking of the USS DEBT and you with it.

    I’m enjoying another warm, sunny day here in the Philippines. I notice it is a chilly 22F there in your area. It is a comfortable 79F here this morning, going up to the mid 80s later. LOL

  18. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk maximum newspeak on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 10:03 pm 

    Breaking news supertard Wellington floated my idea of putting global muzzies on trial for genocide. Get the muzzie anti rape machine muzzies amputation machine muzzies hamster machines ready

  19. Davy on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 5:22 am 

    “Anonymouse on Tue, 12th Nov 2019 7:28 pm”

    When annoymouse, maakto, and juanpee do their ganging you know you have won. When annoy makes a second ad hom comment after a first you shove back in his ass you know you won. LOL. This winning is about being here when they don’t want you to be IOW censorship that fails. It also means anything they say means nothing. I could care less about there childish cute downs. You would think after years of daily ad homs from annoymouse he would realize he is just an ignorant millennial with a personality disorder of stalking with anger issues.

  20. Davy on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 5:27 am 

    “I’m enjoying another warm, sunny day here in the Philippines. I notice it is a chilly 22F there in your area. It is a comfortable 79F here this morning, going up to the mid 80s later. LOL”

    Well, makato, I think you are just a pussy that can’t take extremes. There are lots of pussy old people like you that move south to be pre-planted. You can’t take rigor of living a demanding life. I just got up and went out to the wood boiler and stoked it with wood in 10 degrees temps and wind chill. It felt great. So, who care about your 79 degrees. I would be bored to death with a constant temperature range. You tell us how wonderful it is too much which makes me think something is wrong.

  21. Anonymouse on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 5:53 am 

    Something IS wrong with you exceptionaltard. Old news to all of us here, well, except for you. You’re still having trouble coming to grips with that reality. As it is, we’ve been telling you something, everything is wrong with you years.

    You should do something about that. Telling everyone here what a tough guy you think you are, is not helping you any. Now why dont cut up whatever sticks of furniture you still have left that arent made of PVC or old tires, and go toss em in that ‘wood boiler’ of yours. Should keep you off the internet for a least a couple of hours while you try to figure out how fire works.

    dumbass….

  22. Davy on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 6:03 am 

    LMFAO, you must have been really triggered annoymouse. You rarely get this way unless I have shoved your shit further into your throat than normal. When you behave this way I know I have won big!

    “Something IS wrong with you exceptionaltard. Old news to all of us here, well, except for you. You’re still having trouble coming to grips with that reality. As it is, we’ve been telling you something, everything is wrong with you years.”
    OK, what did you just say annoymouse?? Why don’t you say you hate me and you have spent the last 3 years doing daily ad-homs. Don’t you think that is a sign of a problem? You rarely make a real comment and when you do it is the same old anti-American or jew baiting garbage. You really have a failed life. The more you whine the more I win. You are afraid to debate so like juanpee you turn to lame daily attacks.

  23. Davy on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 10:48 am 

    Oops, sorry for getting all triggered and losing my widdle temper again y’all. I do that lots.

    I can’t help my old poor lonely miserable widdle self.

  24. JuanP ID theft on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 12:20 pm 

    More stupid:

    Davy said Oops, sorry for getting all triggered and losing m…

  25. More Davy ID Fraud on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 7:34 pm 

    This is from the board lunatic:

    JuanP ID theft on Wed, 13th Nov 2019 12:20 pm

    #banthelunatic#

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