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Dennis Meadows: The Limits To Growth

Fifty years ago, an international team of researchers was commissioned by the Club of Rome to build a computer simulation of exponential economic and population growth on a finite planet.

In 1971, its findings were first released in Moscow and Rio de Janeiro, and later published in 1972 under the title The Limits To Growth. The report concluded:

  1. Given business as usual, i.e., no changes to historical growth trends, the limits to growth on earth would become evident by 2072, leading to “sudden and uncontrollable decline in both population and industrial capacity”. This includes the following:
    • Global Industrial output per capita reaches a peak around 2008, followed by a rapid decline
    • Global Food per capita reaches a peak around 2020, followed by a rapid decline
    • Global Services per capita reaches a peak around 2020, followed by a rapid decline
    • Global population reaches a peak in 2030, followed by a rapid decline
  2. Growth trends existing in 1972 could be altered so that sustainable ecological and economic stability could be achieved.
  3. The sooner the world’s people start striving for the second outcome above, the better the chance of achieving it.

Few reports have generated as much debate, discussion and disagreement. Though it’s hard to argue that its forecasts made back in the early 1970s have proved eerily accurate over the ensuing decades.

But most of its warnings have been largely ignored by policymakers hoping (blindly?) for a rosier future.

One of the original seventeen researchers involved in The Limits To Growth study, Dennis Meadows, joins us for the podcast this week. Fifty years later, what does he foresee ahead?

Decline is now inevitable.

We’re without any question moving into the remainder of a century which is going to see, by the end of these decades, a much smaller population, much lower level of energy and material consumption and so forth.

Whether we retain equity amongst people and avoid the more violent forms of conflict remains to be seen. But sustainable development is no longer an option.

This is one of the most important discussions we’ve ever recorded among the hundreds produced over the past decade.



16 Comments on "Dennis Meadows: The Limits To Growth"

  1. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 28th Dec 2019 8:34 pm 

    Whether we retain equity amongst people and avoid the more violent forms of conflict remains to be seen. But sustainable development is no longer an option.
    Yes campers, your options are in the rear view mirror.

  2. JuanP on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 12:48 am 

    Location, location, location! Prepare now!
    Air, body temperature regulation, water, food, health, and safety are our needs; focus on the basics.

  3. JuanP is stupid on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 8:07 am 

    “Location, location, location! Prepare now!
    Air, body temperature regulation, water, food, health, and safety are our needs; focus on the basics.”

    Ask stupid why he is Miami Beach then being a worthless human playing and fucking off.

  4. Sissyfuss on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 8:11 am 

    We were warned but ignored any information that didn’t include infinite growth and increased material well-being. People will continue to increase the size of their blinders even if it means that the only view of reality remaining is the end of their nose.

  5. Richard Guenette on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 5:36 pm 

    “Only after the last fish has been caught, only after the last tree has been chopped down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only then you will find out that money cannot be eaten”

  6. Richard Guunette on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 5:46 pm 

    I live in Miami Beach and I had a vasectomy

  7. Richard Guunette on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 5:46 pm 

    My wife is a south american whore

  8. Richard Guunette on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 5:47 pm 

    I like gay sex

  9. Cloggie on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 6:03 pm 

    This board and thread in particular is a perfect mirror image of the country most posters reside in.

    “God first strikes with madness those He is bringing to destruction”

    https://www.wordofhisgrace.org/wp/madness/

    Or for the more down-to-earth, secular types:

    https://youtu.be/Tjxh5cCfCFs

  10. JuanP on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 6:21 pm 

    clog, look likes to throw rocks in his glass house

  11. MayonaiseRemover on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 6:46 pm 

    All Mass Shootings between 1982 and 2019, by Race

    https://i.imgur.com/w2heqQ6.jpg

  12. JuanP on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 6:48 pm 

    I use mayonnaise when I masturbate

  13. Davy on Sun, 29th Dec 2019 8:17 pm 

    This is soo much fun!

    We gots nothin better to do with our meaningless widdle lifes than playing childlike games with people we don’t even no on lame unmoderated Internet forums.

    Maybe REAL Greens write? We need to see the docter REAL Bad?

    dumbasses?

  14. REAL Green on Mon, 30th Dec 2019 12:44 am 

    Whats masterbate meen Davy? And what’s mayonnaise?

  15. JuanP is stupid on Mon, 30th Dec 2019 4:28 am 

    nightly mental illness from Stupid

    REAL Green said Whats masterbate meen Davy? And what’s mayonnaise?…

    Davy said Yeaps a real wurd to us REAL
    Green. so there stupi…

    REAL Green said Yeap aint a real wurd Davy.

    Davy said Yeap. Nice find Idaho!

    Davy said We only think about us. Cus were real importent li…

    Davy said This is soo much fun! We gots nothin better to do…

  16. Sissyfuss on Wed, 1st Jan 2020 1:23 pm 

    For you, Dick!
    ” When the last fish is caught and the last tree felled for warmth, then the white man will learn the true value of their money.”

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