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Solar Scams Alive and Kicking in Australia

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The headline might appear a little alarmist but yet again, I find myself personally caught up in helping consumers navigate through solar scams.

It seems that despite (or perhaps because of?) the industry down-turn new solar companies continue to appear. Why anyone who was tuned in would want to start a solar company from scratch in the last twelve months is beyond me; prices are down, margins are down, volumes are down and only the strongest are surviving.

I don’t want you to think I think it’s all doom and gloom because it’s not; but with the current climate, one can be sure we are facing a deep dip in the solar coaster ride. We’ll get through it like we have before but only if we pay close attention to details and do solar intelligently.

Conversely, if their was ever a proof point that solar scams have ebbed to a new low it was last week. A close family member called me after being door knocked. It all started out well because she likes Amway products and was happy to buy a few new nick nacks from the sales man. However, at the conclusion of the sale she was hit by this surprise from Mr Smooth “Hey, your electricity bills must be sky-high like mine right?. You know I can help you with that too?”

A very brief sales pitch ensued with no information handed over at all except a promise of savings and a stunning deal. And they were fast. Within an hour or so an email arrived saying “Thanks for your confirmed order for a 2kW system using Tier 1 solar panels. We are now preparing to install, have commenced the grid connection application and when approved, will “grandfather” you under the existing generous government subsidy program in case the government decide to scrap this program “

Now to the unsuspecting this could seem like amazing service. However, even to my family friend the alarm bells started ringing. Although they politely did not want to hassle me, they were in a panic that they had been duped into a deal with zero information; nor product information, nor confirmation of the actual benefits and so on.

Cue, call Nige.

So first, I get them to email a cancelled order – no written response.

Then I decide to look into the company.

Hmmmm. high street address in down-town Sydney – impressive.

ASCIC check –  business name registered around 10 months ago.

Web domain check – registered at the same time by a gentleman who runs a swathe of marketing companies – at the same address no less.

So I ring the number of the (apparent) parent company. After being re-diverted several times to several international numbers I finally get through to a lady who denies all knowledge of all companies I had names for and was perplexed that a 1800 number would ring through to her Never heard of them; must be a wrong number “Oh wait I think I have XXXX solar’s number here”  but turns out she didn’t.Hmmmmm.

So I jump on their web-site. Turns out, unbeknownst to everyone else in the solar industry that I can get 10kWh a day from a 2kW solar system in Sydney! WOW! Also turns out that they don’t know the difference between kW and kWh according to their information. Although they list a lot of good solar products on their web-site, some of which are Tier 1, the quote we got was very different.

But wait! They have free information! Says I can download an awesome ebook on solar, for free! So I try but nothing downloads, but it did get my phone ringing – from a totally apparently unrelated company. Another lady. Another data collection exercise. Although she sounded like she was talking from inside a garbage bin and smoking 200 Camels a day she politely asked: “Did you get your book that you ordered from us?” she asks?. “I didn’t order a book from you, I ordered a book from XXX solar and no I didn’t get it”. “So sorry, we’ll get one to you as soon as possible” she says.

Cue; give us all your details. Again. That’s another telemarketing database I’m on which will drive my wife mad, no doubt.

So I decide to call the 1800 number for XXX solar. It diverts through 3 overseas numbers and eventually lands at a voice mailbox with an American accent. No company details, no names, no operator to assist, no nothing.

I’m starting to think I have been conned by a weird hybrid of Homer Simpson’s infamous AT-5000 Auto Dialer and a rogue Amway guy.

These are not the only scams of heard of in recent times.

There is also a company out there claiming to have Australian made solar panels available, made in Brisbane,  and yet they aren’t listed on the CEC site and a quick call to the CEC confirmed that they have not applied to have an Australian made panel approved.

There is also a company out there who is ringing around coming to be from a variety of solar companies, seeking information and data – which has nothing at all to do with those companies.

There are a few lessons in this:

  1. Good companies can survive and prosper, but you need to work extra hard
  2. Feel free to share this story on your web sites to warn customers that %^& still happens.
  3. Never stop believing that con artists will keep coming at us.
  4. Be honest, open and transparent and you will stand out from those who aren’t.
  5. If you hear about stuff and can substantiate it – contact me and I’ll publish news on it when I can.


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4 Comments on "Solar Scams Alive and Kicking in Australia"

  1. ghung on Wed, 30th Jul 2014 3:50 pm 

    We haven’t been ‘solar scammed’ yet, but have seen plenty of other scams recently, even from our phone company; a major telecom. They’ve billed us twice for new services we didn’t ask for, said they would remove the service we didn’t want plus the charges, then billed us for a “change in service”. Reported them to the State Public Service Commission and we are switching to VOIP. OOMA has a crowd-sourced database of scam numbers it blocks plus other stuff to avoid these phone scammers bothering us (hearing aides, security systems, bottled “spring water”, debt collectors for other peoples’ debts, our unclaimed lotto prize, start your own dog breeding business). I even got an unwanted call from folks who claim they help you avoid unwanted calls. The security people always hang up when I ask why I would trust a security company which ignores federal do-not-call laws.

    It seems to be reaching epidemic levels and solar is no different than “free energy machines” to most folks. I think it’s indicative of our “decline of complex societies” condition; anything goes as enforcement of rules falls away. I agree with those who posit that we’ve become a society of sociopaths and professional liars, or maybe we always were and it’s just getting more pronounced as things slowly fall apart.

    Watch your back.

  2. Makati1 on Wed, 30th Jul 2014 9:50 pm 

    Scams are world wide, but if you just say NO!, it saves a lot of grief. A solar panel system does not take a rocket scientist to figure out and install. But, there are suckers born everyday and many scam artists are living quite comfortably off of them. Look at the Stock Market Casino today. LMAO

  3. Avery on Thu, 31st Jul 2014 1:34 am 

    Pssh, this is nothing compared to SOLAR ROADWAYS.

  4. meld on Thu, 31st Jul 2014 5:12 am 

    Solar scams? oh you mean those scams where people pretend solar panels are in anyway an answer to declining oil supplies… that scam right?

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