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Post Peak?

Hover-Cars & Mr. Fusion	3.36% (19)
Soft Landing	3.72% (21)
Moderate Disruptions	20.35% (115)
Hard Crash	43.01% (243)
Complete Collapse	21.06% (119)
Don't Know	6.55% (37)
Don't Care	1.95% (11)

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Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by killJOY on Friday, May 04 @ 09:44:32 EDT
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I see no reason not to predict total/hard crash.

There has simply been no preparation for post-peak life, let along a sense that such a thing is even imminent.

Do we simply expect to sit by and "luck out"?

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Boris555 on Friday, May 04 @ 09:46:15 EDT
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Minor disruptions. For me, anyway. Screw you guys.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Nano on Friday, May 04 @ 10:30:58 EDT
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It'll be minor disruptions for me too, but oh boy are those developing nations SCREWED!

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Windmills on Friday, May 04 @ 10:55:51 EDT
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I think we'll be in for a "hard crash," but that it will unfold over longer period of time. Available technology and standards of living will decline over the years in proportion to the amount of energy available to each nation. We will all become poorer and live simpler, slower-paced lives.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Pixie on Friday, May 04 @ 12:08:31 EDT
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What do you call a "hard crash". To me, that sounds like Mad Max inside of a decade. I predict we are going to fall a long, long, way, but I think it will take so long that even while it is happening, most of the sheep will not admit that it is a crash. To use another analogy, most of the frogs will not notice that the water is getting hotter.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by TreebeardsUncle on Friday, May 04 @ 12:58:34 EDT
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Hello.
Voted for moderate disruptions. Don't think the changes will be that fast or server at least in the first world.

G

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Phebagirl on Friday, May 04 @ 19:08:08 EDT
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Good day from Pheba; from the farm:
I voted hard crash, especially in the U.S. I live and work on a farm, and I do volunteer work at a local food bank. The system is falling apart from the bottom up. High fuel prices for driving, high home heating and cooling costs. Higher prices for food, etc. are destroying many families.
I feel that Kunstler hit the nail on the head when he noted that the stock market went up the day of the Virginia Tech shootings.
The U.S. economic system is completely out of touch with the real world.
Pheba .

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by Tyler_JC on Saturday, May 05 @ 15:49:30 EDT
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Well, why should a school shooting effect confidence in the general economy? I'm not sure I agree with Kunstler's point on that one.

I don't believe the financial system will collapse. Banks may fail, but the government will step in and regulate them. We may end up with only a dozen or so banks in the whole country, but we will certainly still have a financial system in the future.

And if banking, law/order, food distribution, etc. aren't disrupted for weeks at a time...I think we'll be alright.

Some places won't be live-able Post Peak, however. For the people living there, it will be a Complete Collapse.

I voted for moderate disruptions (for my area, anyway).

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by frznghost on Monday, May 07 @ 00:44:51 EDT
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I don't know how this won't mean at least a hard crash. After all, how many products on store shelves are made within a twenty mile radius of where you live? ...And gasoline is, what, 95% of all transportation, i.e. shipping.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by TreebeardsUncle on Monday, May 07 @ 13:44:29 EDT
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Well, the newspapers say there is nothing to fear as the tropics can be used to grow biofuels such as sugar cane in Brazile and palm oil in Indonesia with EROIs up to 6.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by TreebeardsUncle on Monday, May 07 @ 13:44:42 EDT
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Well, the newspapers say there is nothing to fear as the tropics can be used to grow biofuels such as sugar cane in Brazile and palm oil in Indonesia with EROIs up to 6.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by hippiepanda718 on Friday, May 11 @ 15:24:09 EDT
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I came in too late to vote, but i do believe it will be a hard crash, of not completely destroy the world as we know it.

Things will become simplier. Everyone will grow their own food again and things wont be as technologically advanced anymore. We'll be on horseback again, or walking more. It will be like a semi-dark ages again.

Unless of course we find a way to push ourselves out of the need for oil RIGHT NOW! Then it won't be so bad.

As of right now, we are completely fed off of oil. Our entire world is a big oil-over-consuming world.

It doesn't matter anyway though, the smarter we get, the more we want to blow each other up with nuclear arms anyway.

Re: Post Peak? (Score: 1)
by shark on Thursday, September 13 @ 15:34:57 EDT
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If oil last another 30 years like the oil companies say and we get better technology we may have a bit of time to try and allow a calm change from driving your car to riding a horse. But if one bomb hits an old refinery in Saudi Arabia we are all going to see that time frame cut in half.