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Why America wants a war with Russia

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Just recently I saw this innocent question asked on Moon of Alabama’s website, and decided to post a reply:


http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/russian-bots-how-an-anti-russian-lobby-creates-fake-news.html

“For the life of me I cannot figure why Americans want a war/conflict with Russia.”

Ever since US Crude Oil production peaked in 1970, the US has known that at some point the oil majors would have their profitability damaged, “assets” downgraded, and borrowing capacity destroyed.  At this point their shares would become worthless and they would be bankrupt. The contagion from this would immediately spread to airlines, transport businesses, plastics manufacture, herbicides and pesticide production and a total implosion of Industrial Civilisation.

In anticipation of increasing Crude Oil imports, Nixon stopped the convertibility of Dollars into Gold, thus making the Dollar entirely fiat, allowing them to print as much of the currency as they needed.

They also began a system of obscuring oil production data, involving the DoE’s EIA and the OECD’s IEA, by inventing an ever-increasing category of Undiscovered Oilfields in their predictions, and combining Crude Oil and Condensate (from gas fields) into one category (C+C) as if they were the same thing. As well the support of the ethanol-from-corn industry began, even though it was uneconomic.  The Global Warming problem had to be debunked, despite its sound scientific basis.  Energy-intensive manufacturing work was off-shored to cheap labour+energy countries, and Just-in-Time delivery systems were honed.

In 2004 the price of Crude Oil rose from $28 /barrel up to $143 /b in mid-2008. This demonstrated that there is a limit to how much business can pay for oil (around $100 /b). Fracking became marginally economic at these prices, but the frackers never made a profit as over-production meant prices fell to about $60 /b.  The Government encourages this destructive industry despite the fact it doesn’t make any money, because the alternative is the end of Industrial Civilisation.

Eventually though, there must come a time when there is not enough oil to power all the cars and trucks, bulldozers, farm tractors, airplanes and ships, as well as manufacture all the wind turbines and solar panels and electric vehicles, as well as the upgraded transmission grid.

At that point, the game will be up, and it will be time for WW3 and a War Economy.  So we need to line up some really big enemies, and develop lots of reasons to hate them.  Thus you see the demonisation of Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela for reasons that don’t make sense from a normal perspective.

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125 Comments on "Why America wants a war with Russia"

  1. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:00 am 

    “Just be honest you are not prepping because its a smart and reasonable thing to do. You are doing it because you are a misanthrope who hates society.”
    Shut up stupid you don’t know me. At least I have a life and a family. I am part of a community and trying to make it better. You are now showing you can’t argue my reason for prepping. You have no life and do nothing. You are alone in an empty ego of shame trying to shame others.

    “The funny thing is though without the rule of law and a prosperous society around you. You would be dead in a few days. “
    Oh that is funny…ha ha. NO shit Sherlock but do you know for sure. What if I turn into a warlord or something? You have no clue what is going to happen. You have been watching too much TV. Why not try to be real for a change.

    “Go live on farm and be a homesteader in a place like Syria and see how long you would last…”
    Ahh that is a civil war dumbass not a collapsed world. There is a difference but you are too stupid to understand this.

    “And your state is full of gun nut wack jobs!”
    I agree there is a lot of whack jobs here and throughout the US and in your state dumbass and that would include YOU

    “They will have no problems neutralizing you when society collapses.”
    Yea, that would make you happy because I just spanked your stupid juvenile ass which is obvious by this immature response.

  2. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:10 am 

    “The computer models of the limits to growth are accurate. They have been fact checked and proven true for ever forty years. And you are asking me to quote the studies and I already did..Man you are going nuts now”
    Ah, kid dumbass, computer models do not represent life. They are a tool to use not life. They sometimes are accurate in a vague way nothing that would pinpoint an exact point. This is one of the big problems with modern life and that is our blind faith in computers. It is part of the reason the hole is getting deeper. We are unable to stop digging long enough to see this.

    “Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end…”
    Simple really because you are too stupid to realize there are grey substiles to all this. One size does not fit all. You do not understand scale of time, location, or degree/duration. You have no clue how the world economy is going to shut down, when, and where it will begin.

    “We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order.”
    Who says it is all going to happen in short order kid dumbass? Did God tell you this?

    “The collapse will be absolutely horrible.”
    Geeze Louise, it is always so horrible and dramatic from kid dumbass

    “There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like.”
    Give me a break and quit watching so much TV.

    “I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once.”
    You sound like a religious nutter that believes in an all of sudden rapture.

    “I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close…”
    Of course you are Hollywood kid dumbass.

  3. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:14 am 

    “fallback-scenario, just ask Davy, who already secured himself a refuge in Northern Italy, just in case”

    Too bad you are such a worthless kind of guy without family or a wife. You have nowhere to go you are stuck if shit hits the fan. No wonder you are so obsessively trying to talk up your little overpopulated Dutchy.

  4. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:26 am 

    Too bad you are such a worthless kind of guy without family or a wife.

    You know nothing about my private life, but assume everything.

    You have nowhere to go you are stuck if shit hits the fan.

    I can go anywhere in the EU with my Dutch passport, including Northern Italy. Just go and register, nothing to it, I did it several times in the past (Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland), but I am done travelling and globetrotting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

    Not that I have any intention or necessity to leave my country, very much unlike you. The coming collapse, if any, will be “social”, not energy-related, as I still thought 6 years ago.

    Overpopulation doesn’t mean anything as our agricultural system is sufficient to feed us and them some. We have for years natural gas left, while one offshore wind farm is constructed after another and the number of ordinary houses with solar panels is growing fast and visibly. If necessary we can complete the transition within a decade:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/01/03/netherlands-sustainable-by-2030/

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/03/24/the-netherlands-fossil-free-in-2030/

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/hans-josef-fell-accelerating-the-global-transition-to-100-renewable-energy/

  5. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:31 am 

    Davy

    I know dave what do super computers know anyways. And what do the doctors who authored the studies I posted know anyways. I am sure an uneducated prepper like you knows much more! LOL

  6. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:37 am 

    Davy

    One the stores run out of food places like your farm will be the easy target everyone goes for! And your mommy and daddy can’t buy you another one! Once the goons see smoke coming from your prepper chimney they will know you have food, water and most likely woman around..And they will be stealing all three! You will stroke out while goons breed your wife! The home boys will run a train on that bitch! And I bet that slut will love it!

  7. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:44 am 

    Clogg

    We don’t have years of natural gas it peaked back in 2000. And we only less than another decade of unconventional.

    Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254

  8. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:48 am 

    Nazi, you will go nowhere maybe when the shit hits
    The fan becuase your money may not be worth anything.

    Nazi, your Ag system may seriously degrade once shit hits the fan. You are all smug and potentially facing mayhem. Typical fantasy dwelling lunatic.

  9. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:50 am 

    Kid dumbass, saying the same thing over and over does not mean you are saying anything. What you are doing is digging your dumbass hole deeper. STUPID

  10. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 8:21 am 

    “Nazi, your Ag system may seriously degrade once shit hits the fan.”

    Communist, you always remain abstract with your undefined “shtf”.

    What could that mean, for Holland?

    You may fool your wife with your peak oil collapse baloney, and use it to keep the poor thing away from “bright lights, big cities”, in that backwater of yours and live on the cheap, but you won’t fool me.

  11. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 8:57 am 

    “Clogg

    We don’t have years of natural gas it peaked back in 2000. And we only less than another decade of unconventional.”

    I was talking about Holland, to rebuff Davy and his boring fossil fuel collapse baloney template, he applies to everything. Holland has 50 years gas left:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L63QUtZr4w4

    We’ll accomplish the transition “with two fingers in the nose”:

    https://speedyfamily.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/twee-vingers-in-je-neus.jpg

    https://goo.gl/images/LJAKgj

  12. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 9:28 am 

    Global warming is terrible and shit, but not now:

    https://www.geenstijl.nl/5140900/liveblog-kou-des-doods-komt-ons-halen/

  13. Sissyfuss on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 12:13 pm 

    Clognacious, according to a Telegraph article Britains wind turbines are wearing out much faster than anticipated, producing effectively for only 12 to 15 years and not the expected 20 to 25. The financial hit exacted will be borne by the citizens. And in an Ars Technica article it stated that the bigger faster moving blades in some offshore farms are more susceptible to damage by rain and hail causing them to be replaced after only several years. It seems that entropy is much more renewable than any energy source.

  14. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 1:10 pm 

    You probably mean this 2012 article (why no link?)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windpower/9770837/Wind-farm-turbines-wear-sooner-than-expected-says-study.html

    Prof. Gorden Hughes is a notorious wind energy hater:

    http://www.ewea.org/blog/2012/12/study-on-turbine-lifespan-just-more-anti-wind-propaganda/

    I hope you don’t mind that we continentals stubornly and undeterred will proceed on our chosen renewable path.

    But nevertheless, keep them coming, just for fun sake.

  15. . on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 1:30 pm 

    Anyone who hates co2 and mythical global warming is a suicidal sodomite. Can you think independently? Or you just are too lazy to relocate?

  16. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 1:49 pm 

    I’m unaware of people who hate CO2; H2S though can cause serious irritation.

  17. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 2:14 pm 

    Have discussed Hughes three years ago:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/wind-turbine-lifespan/

  18. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 3:47 pm 

    Much worse than I thought:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/967415441839796225

    Whites minority (46%) below 20!

    There you have the real reason for the demoralization.

  19. george on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 4:44 pm 

    A world without Nascar ?

    Heaven forbid .

    ” The American way of life is not up for negotiations . Period ”

    Saddle up Boys.

  20. Sissyfuss on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 7:05 pm 

    You win, Clogeek. Hughes,it turns out is a frack loving denier and JoNova, the other article author I mistakenly attributed to Ars Technica is another anti environment toad sucker. I know, consider the source which I belatedly did.

  21. energy investor on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 8:04 pm 

    Can you folk who just want to wage war on each other take a time out?

    Perhaps a month would do. Then return and keep two words in the forefront of your minds…

    courtesy and respect

    You all have interesting perspectives that are lost in the war of words and expletives.

  22. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 9:31 pm 

    US Collapse – the Spectacle of Our Time

    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201802251061983205-us-collapse-spectacle-of-our-time/

  23. Boat on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 10:24 pm 

    Clog

    A black man took 2nd place in a Nascar event in his first race. Didn’t Jessie Owens teach you anything?

  24. Cloggie on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 12:51 am 

    A black man took 2nd place in a Nascar event in his first race. Didn’t Jessie Owens teach you anything?

    Not sure what your point is… so we now should let Europe be overrun by Africans and Muslims, just because a black man ended up 2nd at Nascar?!

    It is not about superiority, it is about identity.

    And besides, for your Nascar 2nd I have an entire American city on offer…

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/07/detroit-illiteracy-nearly-half-education_n_858307.html

    Keep things in perspective boat.

    Oh and didn’t the Olympics in Korea teach you anything?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtCUNxpVaQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLetKwaaMMU

  25. Theedrich on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 4:24 am 

    Yankeeland sanctifies the world with murder.  The New England colonies were started by religious fanatics.  Even overlooking the murders of twenty people through the Salem witch trials (plus five others, among them two infants, dying in prison), there was much pious Protestant hatred.  There was, for instance, virulent anti-Catholicism (the haters were, after all, Protestants) and, later, anti-Mormonism leading to Joseph Smith’s lynching.  But the orgasmic self-righteousness of the unCivil War (1861-65) revealed the true nature of the Yankee soul.  (As the Battle Hymn of the Republic put it, “As [Christ] died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on.”  The operative word here is “die.”)

    Skipping blithely over the (yellow-journalism-instigated) American aggression against Spain in 1898, we find that virtue-signaling via war enjoyed another growth spurt in World War I.  But in World War II, it exploded with demands for the unconditional surrender of (“axis of evil”) Germany and Japan.  The Anglo-American preference for killing civilians by carpet-bombing and use of the holy and blessed atomic bomb culminated in the exhilarating victory of the “greatest generation” over “evil.”  Just ask any Jew or fervent Christer about how righteous we were.

    Indeed, if anything has proven the truth of Nietzsche’s thesis that der Wille zur Macht (“the will to power”) is the principle underlying history, it is the “exceptional nation’s” will to destroy the planet in order to prove how god-fearing America really is.

    Consider also that, in politics, an air of mad unpredictability can be quite useful. In 2018 we find that the U.S. president, Donald Trump, under unremitting onslaught by the Heeb media and the Demonic Party, has taken refuge in patriotism — that is, to say, in the military.  To ingratiate himself with his new saviors, he is not only empowering and enriching them with toys and money, but making unsubtle hints about unleashing World War III.  To spread democracy, the rule of law, and the will of Yahweh, of course.

    The latest slogan to creep out of the mouth of the military-industrial-WhiteHouse complex is the term “Indo-Pacific.”  This is the euphemism for the plan by the NSA, CIA, and Pentagon to establish a new curtain of “containment” around China, North Korea and even easternmost Russia.  The plan enlists India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan and, of course, Japan (as well as Australia), in the crusade for peace through annihilation.

    And so, you understand, Commie China had better rein in North Korea, and in general stop acting contrary to American “interests,” because otherwise the Greatest Nation on Earth just might end global civilization forever.

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