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The Conflict Within The Deep State Just Broke Into Open Warfare

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The battle raging in the Deep State isn’t just a bureaucratic battle – it’s a war for the soul, identity and direction of the nation.

When do the unlimited powers of the Intelligence/Security agencies threaten America’s domestic and global national interests? The CIA and its political enablers claim the agency’s essentially unlimited powers, partially revealed by Wikileak’s Vault 7, pose no threat to America’s interests, since they are intended to “defend” American interests.

This is the rationale presented by neocon CIA allies in both political parties: the CIA can’t possibly threaten America’s interests because the CIA defines America’s interests.

This is the wormhole down which civil liberties and democracy have drained. It is an extraordinarily defining moment in American history when the director of the FBI publicly declares that there is no such thing as “absolute privacy” in the U.S.

In effect, privacy is now contingent on the level of interest the Security State has in the private conversation/data. If we read the U.S. Constitution, we do not find such contingencies: civil liberties are absolute. Post-1790 presidents have temporarily mooted civil liberties in time of war, and the CIA-led camp of the Deep State has justified its unlimited powers by effectively declared “a state of war is now permanent and enduring.”

So what’s left to defend if America has become the enemy of civil liberties and democracy, i.e. become a totalitarian state ruled by Security Services and their political henchmen and apologists?

I have long suggested that the tectonic plates of the Deep State are shifting as the ruling consensus has eroded. Some elements of the Deep State–what I call the progressive wing, which is (ironically to some) anchored in the military services– now view the neocon-CIA (Security State)-Wall Street elements as profoundly dangerous to America’s long-term interests, both domestically and globally.

Is the Deep State Fracturing into Disunity? (March 14, 2014)

I have suggested that this “rogue Deep State” quietly aided Donald Trump (by subtly undermining Hillary Clinton’s campaign) as the last best chance to save the nation from the neocon’s over-reach that the Establishment’s Wall Street-funded leadership (Bush, Clinton, Obama, et al.) has overseen–including granting the CIA and its allies virtually unlimited powers unhindered by any effective oversight.

Does a Rogue Deep State Have Trump’s Back? (January 18, 2017)

This profound split in the Deep State has now broken into open warfare. The first salvo was the absurd propaganda campaign led by Establishment mouthpieces The New York Times and The Washington Post claiming Russian agents had “hacked” the U.S. election to favor Trump.

This fact-free propaganda campaign failed–having no evidence didn’t work quite as well as the NYT and Wapo expected– and so the propaganda machine launched the second salvo, accusing Trump of being a Russian patsy.

The evidence for this claim was equally laughable, and that campaign has only made the Establishment, its propaganda mouthpieces and the neocon Deep State look desperate and foolish on the global and domestic stages.

The desperate neocon Deep State and its Democratic Party allies went to absurd lengths to undermine Trump via the “Boris ad Natasha” strategy of accusing Trump of collaborating with the Evil Russkies, even going so far as to briefly exhume former President G.W. Bush from deep-freeze to make a fool of himself, saying the Trump-Evil Russkies connection should be “investigated.”

Now the rogue elements have launched a counterstrike–Vault 7. Here is one example of how quickly the CIA’s over-reach has been absorbed by the body politic:

I highly recommend reading Wikileak’s summary of Vault 7: Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed.

We now know that the CIA maintained a special program (UMBRAGE) to mimic Russia-based hackers and create false trails back to fictitious “Russian hackers.” A number of highly experienced analysts who reviewed the supposed “Russian hacks” had suggested the “evidence” smelled of false trails– not just bread crumbs, but bread crumbs heavy-handedly stenciled “this is Russian malware.”

The body count from Vault 7 has not yet been tallied, but it wouldn’t surprise me if former President Obama and his team eventually end up as political casualties. Non-partisan observers are noting all this over-reach occurred on Obama’s watch, and it hasn’t gone unnoticed that one of Obama’s last executive orders stripped away the last shreds of oversight of what could be “shared” (or invented) between the Security Agencies.

Indeed, the entire leadership of the Democratic Party seems to have placed all their chips on the increasingly unviable claim that the CIA is the squeaky clean defender of America.

Vault 7 is not just political theater–it highlights the core questions facing the nation: what is left to defend if civil liberties and democratically elected oversight have been reduced to Potemkin-village travesties?

If there are no limits on CIA powers and surveillance, then what is left of civil liberties and democracy? Answer: nothing.

The battle raging in the Deep State isn’t just a bureaucratic battle–it’s a war for the soul, identity and direction of the nation. Citizens who define America’s interests as civil liberties and democracy should be deeply troubled by the Establishment’s surrender of these in favor of a National Security State with essentially no limits.

Americans tasked with defending America’s “interests” globally should be asking if a CIA/NSA et al. with unlimited power is detrimental to America’s soft and hard power globally, and toxic to its influence.

The answer is obvious: a CIA with unlimited power and the backing of a corrupt Establishment and media is more than detrimental to America’s soft and hard power globally–it is disastrous and potentially fatal to America’s interests, standing and influence.

Those of us on the sidelines can only hope that the progressive wing of the Deep State, the rogue elements who see the terrible danger of an unlimited National Security State, will succeed in undermining the powerful political support for this toxic totalitarian regime.

Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog



11 Comments on "The Conflict Within The Deep State Just Broke Into Open Warfare"

  1. onlooker on Fri, 10th Mar 2017 12:51 pm 

    This article speaks of something that is happening or in danger of happening. Well, this all HAPPENED. The US came to be controlled by financial interests. The Banking industry, the large Corporations and Industries. They have all held sway over the Democratic/Political process. A little pushback was evident in the early 1900’s against the “Robber Barrons”. But all this was futile. The intelligence agencies ie. Deep State are just one of a number of key institutions that are controlled by these financial elites and their henchmen. The Media, Military and Oil Industry are other notable parts of this Ruling Regime. I find all this supposed political wrangling tedious, just minor differences and ambiguity manifested as “open warfare”, to continue fooling the masses into thinking that real dissension is taking place. NO. It is simply the US and its controlling stakeholders who are not quite so certain of how to proceed given the pushback from other big powers and given that the world is literally falling apart before our eyes.

  2. BobInget on Fri, 10th Mar 2017 2:18 pm 

    “The World may be falling apart, before our eyes”
    Seems a bit over-blown.

    All fears around DJT are materializing.
    One difference. Today, we are all paying attention.

    Not since the 1960’s, maybe never, have we witnessed
    such (governmental) chaos. No one over the age of 12 will ever forget this period of an American page turner. Half history half spy novel.

    I for one.. hope to live long enough see this drama through… At least to the end of second act. That third act, resolution, may go on and on like our oil wars in the ME, another 20 years. Or two decades, which ever comes first-;)

  3. dkb on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 3:57 am 

    Fuck this Deep State bullshit. It is all just a bunch of bullshit, so fuck it all.

    We will not submit to your bullshit!

    How’s about that?

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 4:42 am 

    Fuck this Deep State bullshit. It is all just a bunch of bullshit, so fuck it all.

    Mr Fuckalot, stop your mouth breathing.

    What’s the “deep state”?

    Answer: “the continuity of government”. TPTB. The real behind-the-scenes rulers, who are not subjected to electoral scrutiny. The people that pre-select and certify the candidates before they are allowed to run for “president”. The people who write the texts that the teleprompter reader du jour dutifully reads in front of the cameras. The media are the mouthpiece of the deep state. The CFR, that’s the deep state and so is the FED. The neocons are the true public agitators of the deep state. The Antifa rabble, that’s the low level, street level, representatives of the deep state. The US deep state has great resemblance with the Soviet deep state between 1917-1938, until Stalin came along and crushed it:

    http://tinyurl.com/q9drfpu

    The only reason why the Cold War came about after WW2.

    And now Trump volunteered to become the American Stalin-Hitler-Putin (take your pick) and also confronts the deep state head-on. He can’t win this fight because he has a limited life span, but perhaps he won’t lose either in that he creates the most favorable conditions for a chunk of the American population to revolt, after they secured continental European support first and repeat the stunt of 1776. This time not to get rid of the British but of a different group.

    https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg

    Continental European support is represented by two red arrows.

    Trade-off:

    Living “white lives” (interest of the “Constitutionalists”/”Deplorables”) against the break-up of the US (European geopolitical interest of getting rid of the overlord).

  5. onlooker on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 6:20 am 

    Meantime:
    https://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/107796/when-all-blows?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
    When This All Blows Up…

  6. paulo1 on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 10:03 am 

    It always comes down to, “Follow the Money”. In this case power and money are interchangeable.

    The pie is shrinking, and various factions are lining up to maintain, and even increase, their share at the expense of others. I think it is a psychological disorder. How thick does your steak need to be? How many bathrooms does your mansion need to have? Jet too small? Dick too small, Donald?

    And many of the connecetd insiders are making preps to flee to safe refuge, be it NZ or some other safe Nirvana where the entrenched conneected are white, of course.

    This is what it looks like to see an Empire disintegrate. Expected services, very affordable, are rebranded as entitlements. Then, the population is made to believe their ‘entitlements’ have to be reduced for the good of ‘The Nation’. Or, ‘The Nation’ will go bankrupt and/or fail if we don’t cut_______. Funny, there is always enough money for armies and foreign wars…(Rome anyone?) This is what is playing out now as the Reflubs are trying to reduce medical care coverage for the masses, under the guise of improving services. And all the while they are sneaking in tax cuts that will benefit the super wealthy.

    My wife and I were watching the orchestrated news conferences put on by the Freedom Caucus expounding on how the dreaded ‘Obamacare’, and the newish ‘Dumpcare’, just have to be stopped, repealed, and everyone go back to……? I leaned over to my wife and remarked, “Why don’t people just say we’ll go along with whatever, as long as my healthcare coverage is the same as yours. After all, you work for us (you crooked Pol), we pay your wages”.

    It is falling apart in slowmo. But, there is always money for war, and surveillance. This will get very ugly as the unwind continues. But hey? How about that new Donald Dump Jobs Report??!! See, we’re getting great again, after just 47 days! See? We are a finely tuned machine!

  7. Davy on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 10:31 am 

    Paulo, look in the mirror becuase your side lost miserably from being a huge failure of elite privilege gone bad. That group represents some good policy made bad through corruption and moral hazard. Instead of whining clean up your act. I am talking to you as if you were American because you Canadians act like you are American in regards to criticism but you won’t own the failure. Go Trump! Because I hate Hipocrisy.

  8. GregT on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 4:00 pm 

    Canada launches consultations on free trade with China

    “A free trade agreement with China as a means to economic growth could take on new importance for the Liberals now that the Trans-Pacific Partnership between Canada, the U.S., Japan and nine other nations was effectively killed by U.S. President Donald Trump.”

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-launches-consultations-on-free-trade-with-china-1.3310129

  9. dooma on Sat, 11th Mar 2017 11:31 pm 

    After the far from the surprising latest instalment of WikiLeaks, How are you going to separate reality from illusion ever again?

    There must be 100’s of countries where you have more privacy and freedom than the people of the US. The reason being is because many countries cannot afford the technology to carry out the wholesale data mining of its citizens. George Orwell would be deeply troubled but impressed at the technology involved.

    One has to consider if you have more privacy in North Korea?

    The alphabet agencies, with the help of Alphabet Inc, know absolutely everything about its citizens. The scary part is when you combine it with technology like “auto pilot” in vehicles, hits just became a whole lot easier. Also, what are they going to do with all of this juicy, sensitive information when the time is right?

    That is why I believe that Trump’s tiff with the deep state was a planned event to obtain the vote of anti-establishment voters. If that was the right motive, it worked beautifully.

    People, you now have the absolute proof to what you always thought, trust nobody, nothing you read and be wary of everything that appears correct to your ‘gut’ feeling.

    Unfortunately, there are no more people in positions of power with altruistic ideals.And the stage is in the process of being set for the use of the ultimate distraction tool to be used by governments for taking the attention away from the dire financial situation-war.

  10. makati1 on Sun, 12th Mar 2017 12:40 am 

    dooma, you hit on another of the reasons I live in the Ps. Privacy is still important here and public cameras are rare except in banks and places they handle money and need to be monitored. Why? The government does not have funds to place surveillance everywhere except where it is absolutely important.

    I have nothing to hide but I still value my privacy. Call me “old fashioned” but I still believe it is a sign of just how free a country is by the amount of real privacy you have. If your every phone call, purchase, email, etc. is monitored and recorded for future use against you, that is NOT freedom. That is “1984” on steroids. I will gladly give up some “security” in order to have my privacy and freedom and I have. Nuff said.

  11. Davy on Sun, 12th Mar 2017 5:04 am 

    “There must be 100’s of countries where you have more privacy and freedom than the people of the US. The reason being is because many countries cannot afford the technology to carry out the wholesale data mining of its citizens. George Orwell would be deeply troubled but impressed at the technology involved.”

    Your so full of shit Dooma. Your country is doing the same thing just not at the scale of the US. The rest of the west is in the same boat. What a denialist and anti-American on top of it. I think you are pandering to makati for brownie points.

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