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Kunstler: What Now?

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It must be exciting to wake up on a gilded bed somewhere in Riyadh and realize that you are Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, mover and shaker of Middle East order. Actually, exciting just to have woken up at all. Perhaps Prince MBS checks to make sure that there aren’t seventy-two virgins in the room before he rises to prayers, state business, and the prospect of World War Three.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) has been a giant gasoline bomb waiting to explode for decades. It occupies one of the geographically least hospitable corners of the earth. Its existence as a modern (cough cough) state relies strictly on the reserves of oil discovered as recently as the late 1930s, that is, within the lifetime of people still reading this blog. The oil supply is in steep decline, and so, of course, is the stability of the kingdom.

Politically, it’s a super-medieval operation, an absolute monarchy tied to a severe religious order with the law floating precariously between the two, and old-fashioned customs such as the public beheading of criminals (for misdeeds such as “adultery,” “atheism,” and “sorcery”). The Saud clan has controlled the throne all these years, and its grip on power is slipping as the country itself slips into the prospective next era of its history, minus the endless gusher of oil that has made its existence possible — hence, a true existential crisis without the usual pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

How are they going to support the thirty or forty million people who will still be there when the oil exports dribble down? Most of the work done in the country is performed by foreign “guests.” The indigenous folk don’t even remember how to milk a camel, let alone run routine maintenance on a desalinization plant. (And what are you going to run the de-sal plant on when the oil runs down?) These are questions that must drive thoughtful Saudi royalty mad.

Hence, the Kingdom is going mad. The current king, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, is the latest in a line of geriatric monarchs. His brother and predecessor, Abdullah, spent his last years in a limbo of medical life-support (virgins standing by), and Salman is reputed to be dotty. Crown Prince MBS has assumed more of the king’s duties by necessity, but the land is filled with thousands of other princes, many of them frustrated, angry, and jealous of the Crown Prince’s prerogatives.

One can only imagine the clouds of intrigue wafting through the ornate corridors of wealth and power. Crown Prince MBS is lately out to deprive his many royal rivals of those two critical assets, and a couple of said rival princes — Abdul Aziz bin Fahd and Mansour bin Muqrin — were offed altogether (gunfight, helicopter crash) two weeks back. A score of non-royal public officials and business poobahs have also been arrested, including top ministers (Finance, Economy & Planning), the former CEO of the national airline, and a brother of Osama bin Laden, whose family ran the country’s biggest construction company.

It really amounts to a nascent civil war and it comes around at exactly the moment that the Kingdom’s arch-enemy, Iran, is feeling comfortably aggressive. Iran, formerly known as Persia, is a much sturdier old polity that has been around long before there was much ado about oil. They were fighting the ancient Greeks and Romans back in the day, and won a few rounds. But, of course, Iran has a good deal of oil, too. And having pissed off the Americans not so long ago by overrunning the US embassy and all, our country has been striving to punish them ever since — especially making it difficult for them to sell oil to our “friends” in Europe. As it happens, there are plenty of customers elsewhere for Iran’s oil — and, yes, they will eventually face their own depletion problems, but they do have the world’s largest untapped reserve stash next door in Iraq, which they are steadily and increasingly coming to control. And they do have that millennium-and-a-half beef with Arabia’s Sunni branch of Islam headquartered in KSA.

Crown Prince MBS may see war as a unifying theme for his domestic difficulties. He has a fifty-plus years’ stock of American war toys that have hardly been used — except for turning neighboring Yemen into a landfill. The USA has been KSA’s staunch ally all these years, and MBS has every reason to believe we have his back, as Iran probably believes Russia has its back. And then there is Israel in the background with its nuclear-armed subs… Israel, which actually took seriously Iran’s declaration a few years ago to wipe it off the face of the earth — and which now much of the world castigates Israel for so doing.

And in the middle of all this, poor, feckless, Hezbollah-haunted Lebanon, and the boneyard formerly known as Syria. The region is seriously coming apart. Someone is going to make a dangerous misstep. The Golden Golem of Greatness has been off far away sampling General Tsao’s chicken and Singapore noodles. And this country is completely preoccupied with Sex Among the Stars. Thank goodness the stock market only goes up.

Kunstler



109 Comments on "Kunstler: What Now?"

  1. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:24 pm 

    “– Anglo planes destroyed every larger city in Germany and 600,000 people killed. – 200,000 German woman were raped by GIs. Corresponding German figures for the US: zero cities bombed, hence zero killed, 0 American women raped.”
    Get real dumb n dutch, no nation caused more pain and suffering than the Germans in WW2. This was a great war and you act like the Germans did nothing. What a fruit case. You belong with widdle G in the category of extremist double standard dumbass.

  2. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:26 pm 

    “But it is all coming out (Russia!). Your horrible century is about to begin. Pray on your knees that we will come to your aid.”
    Dumb n dutch, go blow your Nazi boyfriend

  3. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:30 pm 

    “Stop the name calling, childish rhetoric, emotional temper tantrums, and delusional accusations. Grow up, and act like an adult. If you refuse to do so, I will continue to call you out.” – GregT

    Davy doesn’t see himself but that is a perfect description of him. He must think I read his rants, but all I read are others comments about what he has spewed. Ditto for the arrogantly stupid Mastermind. Both have a compulsion to defend the indefensible with 12 year old replies. Pavlov’s dog? I stand corrected, even a 12 year old could do better and be more mature.

    As has been said, this is an open forum and if they don’t like what I post they can just not read it.

  4. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:32 pm 

    please eurotard. it’s part of war and it’s hard to stop what going on. fuhrer treated civilians as vermins and consider themselves SENTAPB supremacist extremist nazi tard preachers Bumpskied. it’s a lot of propaganda on both sides like you’re doing now. what can you expect the fallout of such a thing? I’m here to counter anti-american propaganda and i’m winning!

    fuhrer: kill the vermins (everyone included)
    allied: kill the krauts! (mostly meant fighters)
    me: bumpski SENTAPBs

    it’s clear the later two choices are better. Still not condoning what happened to civilians though.

    there are differences.

  5. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:33 pm 

    “Translation: do not say things that are critical or abusive (to me), even if they are true.”
    You are the board wonder for translations dumb n dutch. What I am saying is there are plenty of facts thrown around on this board. Outright lies are quickly squashed. What is much more difficult is to deal with extremist like you, widdle g, and mad kat that message and distort the truth. The revisions and the embellishments are wondrous to being somewhat factual but in reality lies. You live in a fantasy future that you routinely say is now. You label people and use your Nazi racism as your justification for your abuse. You are one of the most disgusting people on this board to humanity and the truth. At least widdle has widdle to say. You on the other hand are a broken Nazi record of propaganda filth. You and mad kat are tied for disgusting and you are now board enemy #1.

  6. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:38 pm 

    “As has been said, this is an open forum and if they don’t like what I post they can just not read it.”
    Mad kat, it is so funny how much of a pussy you are. When widdle g goes AWOL you are meek as a babe but when widdle comes out of psychological hiding then you are all pumped up because he flanks you. You are a pussy and can’t have a one on one battle. PUSSY. You read everything I write mad kat. I know this because of how you comment. You just confuse yourself sometimes by ignoring me then a little later I am on your most comment on list. It sucks being neutered doesn’t it! You and your extremist buddies can’t stand being moderated. Sucks doesn’t it. I will call you out mad kat until the very last day you are here or until you moderate and show respect. I PROMISE YOU.

  7. Apneaman on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:48 pm 

    clog, I don’t really do ‘blame’ except when I am baiting someone (never you;).

    I see WWII as a testament to human savagery. Part of an unbroken chain of waring since there was more than 1 tribe.

    I’m pretty sure that the Treaty of Versailles all but guaranteed another round, but why get bogged down in minor details when looking at the big picture? IOW, I don’t actually care and have not for some time. What’s the point in frothing at the mouth over history? Are you so naive and unlearned that you believe the humans will learn from the mistakes of the past? No & no.

    Clog, you are a perfect example that knowledge and intelligence are no shield against denial, tribalism and magical thinking.

  8. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:04 pm 

    Get real dumb n dutch, no nation caused more pain and suffering than the Germans in WW2. This was a great war and you act like the Germans did nothing. What a fruit case.

    What a stupid phrase: “the Germans did something”.

    We are talking about who wanted a world war. Answer: America, not Germany. Germany wanted just their stupid Danzig back.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

    There were no German soldiers in America. The Americans (29% global GDP in 1941) felt strong enough to attempt to crush Europe and exploit the Versailles division and get their “American Century started”:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6139.htm

    And they achieved that to intentionally set up Europe for war.

    http://tinyurl.com/ycbb6set

    You and mad kat are tied for disgusting and you are now board enemy #1.

    No you one-dimensional sucker who always avoids a real discussion, because you are too lightweight for that: I am your #1 enemy. Davy the disgusting imperialist, who will cover up or justify any crime his mass murder operation commits in its ongoing 84 years attempt to ram the entire world in their empire, with any insane means and inventing any lie.

    But thank God, the US is basically defeated in its aims, c.q. Trump sabotaged the effort. And now it are the Americans who at home are with the back against the wall. When the joint will fall apart, history can be rewritten from the ground up.

  9. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:07 pm 

    please eurotard your concern for german women and civilians in ww2 is disingenuous. it’s part and parcel to your victimhood narative. fuhrer is the same. I don’t score so i could be the biggest victim ever lived but i chose different.

    I chose to be winner and I want to destroy alt-tard media and fake news ZH and I’m winning!

    but if you really feel human tragedy that women and civilians pay in wars then I’m the same. If we ever take siberia Russian women can enlist and be award shopping cards for life. Best I can do. Any male tard violating their modesty is summarily bumpskied. In a professional American army invading Siberia, in response to putin’s aggresion, any violation of their modesty and destruction of civilians only fuel teh fire of alt-tard media and make them fight harder and inflict more severe damages to our forces. this is simple and everyone understands this in modern war. we may disseminate atrocities/rapes against women to create traps for the enemies but no real actors are harmed in teh making of the MSM narative.

  10. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:07 pm 

    dumb, please put words with your links to support your assertions otherwise you are talking out your dumb ass as usual. You are revising history and shifting blame for war crimes your Nazi kin committed.

  11. Apneaman on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:10 pm 

    Davy, you now qualify to put your patriotic money where you mouth is.

    Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues

    ” People with a history of “self-mutilation,” bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY.”

    “Accepting recruits with poor qualifications can cause problems. In 2006, for example, an Iraqi girl was raped and her family killed by U.S. soldiers, one of whom required waivers for minor criminal activity and poor educational background to join the Army.”

    “Data reported by USA TODAY in October show how the Army met its recruiting goals by accepting more marginally qualified recruits.”

    https://usat.ly/2zJ4EKp

    Well it appears that very few want to join the U.S. military. All that loud flag waving patriotism is exposed as extremist faux patriotism. Angry fat spoiled white dudes who flip the fuck out when black football players take the knee during the national brainwash chant or commenters lambaste the empire. We never hear from those who really love their country because they are too busy out in the real world doing real things that prove it.

  12. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:24 pm 

    Well, I am sure the Canadian army will not accept suicidals. You have been to the edge haven’t you. What is it like to peer over the edge?

  13. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:24 pm 

    I see WWII as a testament to human savagery.

    That’s an open door.

    I’m pretty sure that the Treaty of Versailles all but guaranteed another round, but why get bogged down in minor details when looking at the big picture?

    Wow, what an honesty.
    Big picture? OK:

    – your tribe gradually took over America between 1912-1933. In 1933 they had the US ogvernment
    – Your tribe took over Russia between 1917-1922.
    – Your tribe connected the US with mass murder operation USSR as a first act of Roosevelt government in 1933: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNQW_F6_d1U
    – In the thirties your tribe began to subsidize Churchill with the aim to bring Britain into war with Germany. Keywords: Focus group, chaired by Waley Cohen from Royal Dutch Shell, from your tribe
    – In 1934 Churchill proposes an anti-German alliance to the Soviet ambassador, from your tribe: https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/churchill-stalin-alliance-as-of-1934/

    [part 1]

  14. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:25 pm 

    Knock yourself out delusionalist. Try real hard not to give yourself a brain aneurism. 🙂

  15. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:25 pm 

    – In 1933 Hitler ascends to power on a two point program: rollback Versailles & preventing “jewish communism” from taking over Germany, like had happened to Russia with disastrous consequences (the same could happen to the US soon)
    – In 1933 “Judea declares war on Germany” (read: the US declares war on Germany)
    – In March 31, 1939, US diplomats manage to push Britain and France into a war guarantee for Poland. #1 American in this affair was William Bullitt, US ambassador to Paris and yes, from your tribe
    – Shortly after this very same Bullitt hints to an acquaintance that his goal has been achieved and that “war has been decided upon” and the Germans would be slaughtered, because he knows he has maneuvered Chamberlain-UK, France, Poland into war, where the US and USSR have long decided that they will join eventually: http://tinyurl.com/y7rc8ro6
    – As a last step US diplomacy needs to stimulate the Poles to make absolutely no concessions over Danzig/corridor and that they basically can do what they want. The Poles feel protected by the US, Britain and France and begin ethnic cleansing operations of the Germans living in Poland… and Europe is trapped in the war, set up by the Americans.

    That’s the big picture. Germany completely innocent and again set up for destruction, first time by Britain (WW1) and second time (WW2) by…

    http://tinyurl.com/ycbb6set

    Your tribe.

    [part 2]

  16. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:30 pm 

    The US is scraping under the barrel to find anyone to support their corporate wars.

    My interpretation of what AP said, is that real Americans are just trying to exist in a collapsing nation.

    Davy is a perfect example of what is killing America. “Fat, spoiled, white dudes”. Mastermind comes in second as an arrogant, narrow minded, over achiever who is going to be selling apples on the street when the SHTF.

  17. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:42 pm 

    “Knock yourself out delusionalist. Try real hard not to give yourself a brain aneurism.”
    Yeap, kicked ass and took names. widdle is done explaining heimself.

  18. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:46 pm 

    “Davy is a perfect example of what is killing America.”
    Mad kat, you’re a 73 year old pussy who is 5’5” and scrawny. I could spit on you and your dumbass would fall over. I bet the last time you worked out is walking from your lounge chair to the bar to get a beer by your cheap condo pool. Pretzles and beer don’t pump you up mad kat.

  19. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:17 pm 

    “Yeap, kicked ass and took names. widdle is done explaining heimself.’

    A legend in your own delusional little mind, oh battle hardened internet warrior.

  20. Boat on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:18 pm 

    Davy, In a land of 5’3 mak looms large.

  21. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:27 pm 

    Widdle, better than a limp dick. Is that the best you can do?

  22. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:29 pm 

    Boat, that is his problem. Mad Kat thinks he is a giant among the p’people.

  23. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:31 pm 

    Boat, get an education. What century do you live in? Yes, I looked at those “studies” and they only point out the failure of old studies to prove anything. MOST of the Filipino men I see on the street (adults over 18) here are about my height or taller. That is 5’10”, not 5’3″. The shorter ones are mostly older people. I have not seen every region of the Ps, but Manila is a good representation of them. I see more over my height than under.

    Now you can believe ‘studies’ or you can believe an eye witness. Your call.

  24. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:43 pm 

    Mad Kat, you are 5’7” or so don’t exaggerate when it suits you. You told the board this already when bragging about your BMI.

  25. MASTERMIND on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:25 pm 

    Madkat

    I will never be selling Apples… You are the crippled old limp dick elderly man..You will just be left for dead..

  26. MASTERMIND on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:29 pm 

    Try to imagine one day the TV signal cuts out. “Standby”. Gunshots go off in the distance. You go to buy some groceries and some of the shelves are empty, then half of the shelves, then most of the shelves. Feeling hungry, desperately trying to grow a garden in the backyard at the last minute. Worrying about security constantly. You see an abandoned police car. People with guns riding by on bicycles hauling supplies in cart covered with tarp. You see a dead body on my way to look for food out in town. Eventually far right groups fill the social and political vacuum, then far left groups react. Then violence. Everyone has something to say and they’re shouting it on the unkempt street corners getting into fights.Can’t get on Reddit, can’t get on Google search – the mighty internet has fallen…

  27. Daniel in KC on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:47 pm 

    Ah – I see the comment threads have just gone downhill further since I last looked a few months back. For a ‘peak oil’ forum things appear to have strayed far afield. It sure doesn’t LOOK like anyone is enjoying their discussions, is it habit that keeps you guys coming here? These arguments are a zero-sum game and life is too short to keep fighting your enemy#1 of the day/month/year. Go watch some sunrises and sunsets, find a place away from the cities where you can still see the milky way…just do something different. I’ve got to do more of those things too (the last ten years flew and I probably only have one or two more of those in front of me…which kind of sucks but it is reality).

  28. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 9:53 pm 

    Daniel,

    As long as certain individuals continue to blindly support their tax farms, expect things to continue to go even further downhill.

    While human beings are supposedly smart, in general, they aren’t overly intelligent.

  29. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:05 pm 

    Daniel, we have a few assholes here who cannot read a comment without getting emotional and going ballistic. You can pick out the 12 year old name calling bullies, I am sure. They are not open to anything that disagrees with their narrow vision of the world. I post an innocent comments and get their immature, uneducated attack instead of an intelligent, referral backed rebuttal. I just ignore their rants now. They are zeroes that will be the first to go when the SHTF.

  30. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:35 pm 

    “Davy, In a land of 5’3 mak looms large.”

    And Boat, in a land of 53, both you and the delusionaist would ‘loom’ large. Unfortunately for the both of you, the average IQ in the US is 98.

  31. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:43 pm 

    “Boat, that is his problem. Mad Kat thinks he is a giant among the p’people.”

    Wrong, that would be one of YOUR many ‘problems’. Putting words into other peoples’ mouths, just like a woman.

  32. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:49 pm 

    De-lu-sion-al

  33. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:53 pm 

    Greg, the best way to beat a bully like Davy is to ignore him. The only other way is to actually beat him within an inch of his life, but he is doing that to himself.

  34. antaris on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:04 pm 

    I vote Ignore.

  35. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:06 pm 

    Greg, Boat is just fun to read. So many errors in the time of spellcheck. You kinda have to read his small mind. It is like reading “See Spot Run. Run Spot run!” from first grade.

    I am 5’10” and 170#. BMI 24.4 That is FACT. As is the FACT that many, if not most, males here are taller than me. Some are well over 6’0″.

    https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm

  36. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:08 pm 

    “The only other way is to actually beat him within an inch of his life, but he is doing that to himself.”

    After 5 long years of listening to his emotional and psychological baggage, I’m now far more than willing to give him that helping hand.

  37. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:10 pm 

    “I vote Ignore.”

    Then by all means, do so.

  38. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:14 pm 

    Greg, he is either popping a lot of pills or the stress is taking years off of his life. Either way, he is losing. I chose to ignore him and MM. They are not worth my time.

    I prefer to debate with an intelligent person who has an open mind and sees the real world. I may disagree with them but at least, i will not have be insulted by a delusional, immature bully or his self-important, immature sidekick, Muddymind.

  39. Boat on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 12:36 am 

    mak,

    Debating you is like debating Republicans on climate change. Thinking the P’s average height is anything but tiny is just a classic case of having no Google skills.

  40. makati1 on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 12:47 am 

    Boat, from someone with zero skills that is funny. I prefer to look at those Filipinos around me as FACT rather than some funded ‘study’ that is old and not even correct. You can get any statistic if you select only those who fit the result you want. Just like taking polls. LOL

  41. GregT on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 1:12 am 

    ‘Debating you is like debating Republicans on climate change.”

    When was the last time that you did either Boat?

    That would be neither, and I would be willing to bet, that you don’t even have the foggiest clue as what a debate actually is.

  42. Cloggie on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 2:08 am 

    Try to imagine one day the TV signal cuts out. “Standby”. Gunshots go off in the distance. You go to buy some groceries and some of the shelves are empty, then half of the shelves, then most of the shelves. Feeling hungry, desperately trying to grow a garden in the backyard at the last minute. Worrying about security constantly. You see an abandoned police car. People with guns riding by on bicycles hauling supplies in cart covered with tarp. You see a dead body on my way to look for food out in town. Eventually far right groups fill the social and political vacuum, then far left groups react. Then violence. Everyone has something to say and they’re shouting it on the unkempt street corners getting into fights.Can’t get on Reddit, can’t get on Google search – the mighty internet has fallen…

    That’s an insightful description of what is to come in America, MM. And Peak Oil or Climate Change will have nothing to do with it.

    Potential triggers for US social collapse: downfall of the petro-dollar, mobilization for a major war in Eurasia, a president Zuckerberg announcing basic income and universal health care, the very reason he was elected in the first place with enormous non-white turnout.

    White discontent in America has been smoldering for decades, but political correctness, as propagated by the media, combined with a prosperous economy, kept the silent majority silent.

    But unless you have been living under a stone, you can smell from social media what is about to come, even from a far distance. Thanks for confirming that impression from a far left voice like you.

  43. Davy on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 5:29 am 

    “After 5 long years of listening to his emotional and psychological baggage, I’m now far more than willing to give him that helping hand.”
    Widdle g, you and mad kat have 5 more years of misery or you can moderate and show respect to Americans. It’s something easy and routine for normal people but for narcissistic extremist it is a big step. Obviously I am under both of your skins and winning the battle. You pussies are now fantasizing about hand to hand combat, lol, that’s wounded!

  44. Davy on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 5:35 am 

    “I vote Ignore.”
    You can ignore me and I will ignore you. Mad kat, on the other hand is screwed he will be moderated and neutered. I don’t have the time to moderate all of you dumbass anti-Americans especially the ugly Canadians.

  45. Davy on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 5:40 am 

    “I prefer to debate with an intelligent person who has an open mind and sees the real world”
    You peddle shit mad kat. There is nothing intelligent about you or your flanker widdle G. What has ether of you said intelligent lately. Widdle g just stalks and picks and you spew your anti-American regurgitate. I love seeing how your personality changes mad kat when other ugly anti-Americans come to support you and walk you across the street. It is so sweet. It does make you and widdle g look like pussies. You can’t fight your own battles.

  46. Cloggie on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 6:32 am 

    Zimbabwe to become Chinese client state?

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/simbabwe-militaerchef-reiste-vor-wenigen-tagen-nach-china-a-1178083.html

    Currently there is apparently a coup going on in Zimbabwe. Der Spiegel reports that the chief commander visited China and its defense minister a few days ago.

    The Mugabe family is “secure” (the military did not name the prison though.lol) President Zuma of SA said that Mugabe is under house arrest.

    Zimbabwe is very rich in natural resources, but not rich in skilled human resources to exploit the natural riches. China has financial and human resources in abundance.

    Looks like that China will bankroll Zimbabwe in return for development and access to resources.

  47. makati1 on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 6:36 am 

    LOL Cash talks and China has a lot of shrinking USDs to spend before they become Charmin.

  48. Davy on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 6:43 am 

    “Zimbabwe to become Chinese client state?”
    Yea, look how Venezuela turned out. LMFAO yet again at the stupid anti-American old men. BTW, where is octarian bobieget. He was boast for the longest time about Russia and china taking over Venezuela. Dumb n dutch, I hope China jumps into Zimbabwe….

  49. Davy on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 6:44 am 

    “LOL Cash talks and China has a lot of shrinking USDs to spend before they become Charmin.”
    Mad kat, then why did China just have a large dollar offering so its ailing corporate sector had liquidity. You are such a stupid old man when it comes to finance. All you can think about is toilet paper because it is likely you wear diapers.

  50. fmr-paultard on Wed, 15th Nov 2017 6:48 am 

    eurotard please take a chill pill

    17 mili in bln
    1 United States United States 611.2 3.3
    2 China China[a] 215.7 1.9
    3 Russia Russia 69.2 5.3
    4 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia[a][b] 63.7 10
    19 Iran Iran 12.3 3.0

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