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Kunstler: What Now?

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It must be exciting to wake up on a gilded bed somewhere in Riyadh and realize that you are Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, mover and shaker of Middle East order. Actually, exciting just to have woken up at all. Perhaps Prince MBS checks to make sure that there aren’t seventy-two virgins in the room before he rises to prayers, state business, and the prospect of World War Three.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) has been a giant gasoline bomb waiting to explode for decades. It occupies one of the geographically least hospitable corners of the earth. Its existence as a modern (cough cough) state relies strictly on the reserves of oil discovered as recently as the late 1930s, that is, within the lifetime of people still reading this blog. The oil supply is in steep decline, and so, of course, is the stability of the kingdom.

Politically, it’s a super-medieval operation, an absolute monarchy tied to a severe religious order with the law floating precariously between the two, and old-fashioned customs such as the public beheading of criminals (for misdeeds such as “adultery,” “atheism,” and “sorcery”). The Saud clan has controlled the throne all these years, and its grip on power is slipping as the country itself slips into the prospective next era of its history, minus the endless gusher of oil that has made its existence possible — hence, a true existential crisis without the usual pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

How are they going to support the thirty or forty million people who will still be there when the oil exports dribble down? Most of the work done in the country is performed by foreign “guests.” The indigenous folk don’t even remember how to milk a camel, let alone run routine maintenance on a desalinization plant. (And what are you going to run the de-sal plant on when the oil runs down?) These are questions that must drive thoughtful Saudi royalty mad.

Hence, the Kingdom is going mad. The current king, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, is the latest in a line of geriatric monarchs. His brother and predecessor, Abdullah, spent his last years in a limbo of medical life-support (virgins standing by), and Salman is reputed to be dotty. Crown Prince MBS has assumed more of the king’s duties by necessity, but the land is filled with thousands of other princes, many of them frustrated, angry, and jealous of the Crown Prince’s prerogatives.

One can only imagine the clouds of intrigue wafting through the ornate corridors of wealth and power. Crown Prince MBS is lately out to deprive his many royal rivals of those two critical assets, and a couple of said rival princes — Abdul Aziz bin Fahd and Mansour bin Muqrin — were offed altogether (gunfight, helicopter crash) two weeks back. A score of non-royal public officials and business poobahs have also been arrested, including top ministers (Finance, Economy & Planning), the former CEO of the national airline, and a brother of Osama bin Laden, whose family ran the country’s biggest construction company.

It really amounts to a nascent civil war and it comes around at exactly the moment that the Kingdom’s arch-enemy, Iran, is feeling comfortably aggressive. Iran, formerly known as Persia, is a much sturdier old polity that has been around long before there was much ado about oil. They were fighting the ancient Greeks and Romans back in the day, and won a few rounds. But, of course, Iran has a good deal of oil, too. And having pissed off the Americans not so long ago by overrunning the US embassy and all, our country has been striving to punish them ever since — especially making it difficult for them to sell oil to our “friends” in Europe. As it happens, there are plenty of customers elsewhere for Iran’s oil — and, yes, they will eventually face their own depletion problems, but they do have the world’s largest untapped reserve stash next door in Iraq, which they are steadily and increasingly coming to control. And they do have that millennium-and-a-half beef with Arabia’s Sunni branch of Islam headquartered in KSA.

Crown Prince MBS may see war as a unifying theme for his domestic difficulties. He has a fifty-plus years’ stock of American war toys that have hardly been used — except for turning neighboring Yemen into a landfill. The USA has been KSA’s staunch ally all these years, and MBS has every reason to believe we have his back, as Iran probably believes Russia has its back. And then there is Israel in the background with its nuclear-armed subs… Israel, which actually took seriously Iran’s declaration a few years ago to wipe it off the face of the earth — and which now much of the world castigates Israel for so doing.

And in the middle of all this, poor, feckless, Hezbollah-haunted Lebanon, and the boneyard formerly known as Syria. The region is seriously coming apart. Someone is going to make a dangerous misstep. The Golden Golem of Greatness has been off far away sampling General Tsao’s chicken and Singapore noodles. And this country is completely preoccupied with Sex Among the Stars. Thank goodness the stock market only goes up.

Kunstler



109 Comments on "Kunstler: What Now?"

  1. makati1 on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 5:49 pm 

    I’m just glad it is 5,000 miles from the Ps. The oil is going to stop flowing and then…

  2. Ghung on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 5:59 pm 

    Here! Here! Clusterfuck Planet..

  3. Go Speed Racer on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 6:44 pm 

    LOL on the weekend,
    Trump called Kim Jong
    short and fat.
    That’s presidential. LOL.
    Still better than Hillary.
    Now let’s launch some nukes to
    prove we mean business.

  4. Apneaman on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 7:18 pm 

    The EU signed a “historic” deal to integrate 23 armies to shake off its US dependence

    “It took 70 years, but the European Union finally signed a pact today (Nov. 13) agreeing to integrate military funding, weapons development, and deployment of European defenses. In a way, creating a unified mega army.

    US president’s Donald Trump’s frequent accusations that EU countries do not pay enough into NATO has been one catalyst for them move forward with a unified plan for military cooperation. The other is that it could legitimately diminish the bloc’s dependence on US military support.”

    https://qz.com/1127984/eu-army-bloc-forging-ahead-with-its-military-integration-to-shake-off-us-dependence/

    I think all the countries who have wanted to remove the shackles of empire just love that Trump is the POTUS. Because he is such an uncouth buffoon it has provided them with ammunition and opportunity. It’s like they were waiting for someone like him to come along who would delegitimize the US and justify ‘breaking up’.

  5. Apneaman on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 7:22 pm 

    Paying Off Post-9/11 War Debt Could Cost $8 Trillion: Report

    “Unlike America’s previous wars, its 21st-century conflicts have been paired not with a tax hike or massive sale of U.S. bonds, but a tax cut. The federal government has been operating at a deficit since 2002, accruing a national debt that now totals $20 trillion and counting.”

    http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2017/11/paying-post-911-war-debt-could-cost-8-trillion-report/142412/

  6. Cloggie on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 9:28 pm 

    “Here! Here!”

    https://www.grammarly.com/blog/here-here-vs-hear-hear/

  7. Apneaman on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 10:24 pm 

    Boat, clog just posted a rescue link for you.

    https://www.grammarly.com/blog/

  8. Cloggie on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 10:30 pm 

    “I think all the countries who have wanted to remove the shackles of empire just love that Trump is the POTUS. Because he is such an uncouth buffoon it has provided them with ammunition and opportunity. It’s like they were waiting for someone like him to come along who would delegitimize the US and justify ‘breaking up’”

    Fascinating, apneaman is getting nervous. And he should.

    I think Trump did this on purpose. He knows America is over. There are a lot in the US who want to break the joint up and I wouldn’t be surprisef if deep in his heart, Trump is among them. Trump spent a long time with Macron lately, they get along fine. It is Macron who is pushing this Euro-army. The EU has already 1.8 million soldiers, who are now going to be integrated. The US has 1.2 million and misspends 40% of its defense budget on a largely obsolete sitting duck navy. And then there is Russia, knocking on the Europen door to be let in, scared as it is for China. Oh, Putin was the first head of state Macron received with all pomp. I begin to like Macron.

    Macron & Rothschildt.

    Rightwing “conspiracy theorists” pointed out that Macron had a history in Rothschildt banking, but he is not behaving like one. Comparissons with Putin come to mind. He was also believed to do the bidding of those (((oligarchs))) that held Russia in a tight grip between 1991 and 2000 until Berezovsky c.s. had fooled themselves into thinking that Vlad would be their puppet. He wouldn’t, he threw them in jail where these vultures in jail, where they belong. To Putin’s luck, he found allies in Europe, the traditional Gaullist Chirac as well as the notorious America hater Schroeder. The three of them gave the finger to Washington and Putin began to dream about a Paris-Berlin-Moscow super alliance, until today:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/boreas-risingwhite-nationalism-the-geopolitics-of-the-paris-berlin-moscow-axis-part-1/

    Schroeder is still a big buddy of Putin, but Merkel has for the moment blocked this PBM possibility, she remains loyal to the cultural marxist US deep state and is determined to sit out Trump. But her power is receding. She lost bigly in the last election and now tries to craft a strange coalition. The AfD has already offered to “tolerate” a CDU-liberal minority government, provided Merkel packs her bags.

    This US deep stater and prominent sociologist Immanuel Wallerstein has predicted PBM will happen, where he advocates a US-Chinese alliance… because that would be a winning alliance, a total disaster for PBM.

    Therefor, from a Greater European standpoint, America needs to be dealt with first, by exploiting European American despair about losing majority status and help breaking the country up and as such make the US deep state impotent. Exactly what apneaman and his serfs fears.

  9. makati1 on Mon, 13th Nov 2017 10:42 pm 

    Trump is all about money. He is the perfect example of most Americans: skitzo, immature, uneducated, fat, vain, and greedy. The perfect prez to oversee the collapse. He flips his opinion depending on his audience. His red lines are painted with disappearing paint. I don’t know if he even realizes that the internet quotes all of them to everyone and his word means nothing, just like the word of the US means nothing. He is a one man wrecking team for the US. Go Trump Go!

  10. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:05 am 

    dutch, get a grip, the imaginary Euro army is still a fantasy army. It is not real. It may one day become real. I hope it will and I hope the US leaves Europe. Contrary to your racist extremist view, the US and Europe are friends. I doubt we are going to war on each other. I further doubt your imaginary grand Army of the Euro is not going to come over and mop up the destroyed United States in your 1776 fantasy. The US is too big to fail. If we fail you fail. If I give you shit about your Euro army it is because of how you reinvent it as a fantasy to further your extremist quest for a White Eurotard Empire bull shit.

  11. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:10 am 

    “He is the perfect example of most Americans: skitzo, immature, uneducated, fat, vain, and greedy. The perfect prez to oversee the collapse. He flips his opinion depending on his audience.”

    If that is true mad kat, it sure makes the rest of the world look like ass. We are one of the strongest nations on the earth and you pussies are whining and gnashing your teeth in agony over it. Go fuck yourselves anti-Americans you are no better and right now you are just bitches. LOL, how is that old man. I just kicked you in the teeth. You are such a pussy. I wonder is widdle will come running to save you. Double lol.

  12. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:17 am 

    “America abdicates” (Amerika dankt ab)

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-fazit-asienreise-amerika-dankt-abder-asienreise-amerika-dankt-ab-a-1177835.html

    Der Spiegel is US deep state media material and therefore mocks Trump 24/7.

    But now the German #1 magazine talks about Amerika, not just Trump:

    “despite all the pomp, this tour was in reality a farewell tour, an abdication from super power status” and #1 representative of western values like democracy and human rights. Trump’s predecessors always claimed to be the moral compass for the world, no more. Trump in contrast revealed himself as an admirer of authoritarianism and anti-democratic rulers, who now feel themselves confirmed and can continue.”

    It sounds that der Spiegel is now convinced too that the US will not be able to restore post-WW2 “normality” after Trump. Unipolar hegemony is over.

    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/trumps-asienreise-rote-teppiche-und-ein-liebeslied-fotostrecke-154953-10.html

    Trump during APEC summit with Putin.

    http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/export-boom-deutsche-wirtschaft-waechst-noch-staerker-als-gedacht-a-1177851.html

    German economic growth accelerates further, no end of boom in sight, neither in Germany nor in Europe. Mood among CEOs better than ever.

  13. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:17 am 

    Sorry Davy.

  14. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:24 am 

    dutch, I have posted plenty of articles to show the Euro project is hollow and little more than show, like you, talk. You want so hard to be an empire and great as you are sinking into the morass. Your links and references are from a compromised MSM. I look for reality. You look for the fantasy you want to be reality. Sorry dutch, you are looking dumb again.

  15. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:49 am 

    Contrary to your racist extremist view, the US and Europe are friends. I doubt we are going to war on each other. I further doubt your imaginary grand Army of the Euro is not going to come over and mop up the destroyed United States in your 1776 fantasy.

    I agree that Europe and America should and will remain geopolitical friends. Europe does not and will not have the military strength to take on a unified US head on, that’s true. What I am anticipating though is that a standoff in America will emerge between Washington + US globalist left against “constitutionalists” about how the future America should look like. It will be a conflict between left and right, largely between Reps and Dems voters.

    What is a stake here is so enormous that this tension can’t be defused in some sort of compromise. The left (US deep state) is determined to make white America powerless by increasing third world immigration…

    http://tinyurl.com/yaxtf9ks

    …and demonize every aspect of American history and culture. This can only result in the Gulag on North-American soil, like happened to upper class Russians after 1917. Antifa/BLM/SJW will be let lose on every (mostly white) achieving American with an attitude, once sufficient third world immigrants will have entered the US and the anti-white revolution can be kicked off by the media/deep state.

    In such a situation the Constitutionalists have no choice but to resist. In Russia the civil war lasted for five years and the Reds won eventually because no outsider intervened.

    This time it will be different. Europe + Russia will have every incentive to intervene in a US civil war in order to make a last-minute US-Chinese alliance impossible in case the left would win… by helping splitting the country up and draw (T)rump America into European orbit.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/

    The next big thing on a global scale will not be peak-oil or climate change but political developments within the US. And I think it will start when Trump leaves the white house and that something like this will happen:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloviansk

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

    The US is too big to fail.

    Yeah, so was the USSR.

  16. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 4:09 am 

    Kunstler writes about developments in the ME. My position is that under normal peaceful circumstances (no WW3), peak oil will be peak oil demand and that within a decade every single new power generating capacity will be renewable, where it is now already the majority of new capacity. Next wait 40-50 years and the world will be driven on 100% renewable energy, with Europe first by 2050.

    However, if the ME explodes and descends in a major war between KSA and Iran, the bets are off and peak oil supply could very well become reality, when all oil producing and refining and shipping capacity in the Gulf will be thoroughly destroyed.

    That possibility can’t be excluded.

  17. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 4:40 am 

    China and Russia are preparing for just such an event in the ME: “The Arctic Silk Road: A Huge Leap Forward For China And Russia”

    “Recently, Russia and China begun a fruitful discussion on the exploitation of the Arctic routes. …

    Beijing has every intention in the future of moving its goods through the Arctic from China to Europe, thereby reducing the distances involved by up to 20-30%, saving time, fuel and human resources in the process. …

    Inevitably, Arctic routes represent the future in terms of opportunities and savings in cost. In comparison to the Suez Canal, which is the current route through which China reaches Europe, entailing a journey of nearly 12,000 nautical miles, a route through the Northwest Passage in comparison cuts the journey to under 7,000 nautical miles. …

    Beijing and Moscow seem to have every intention of developing this innovative route with every means at their disposal, adding to the maritime silk road an unanticipated but highly beneficial route. Creating a partnership with Russia in the Arctic will enable Beijing to set foot in the area, as well as allowing it to be involved in the exploitation of hydrocarbons and other natural resources.”

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/11/13/arctic-silk-road-huge-leap-forward-for-china-and-russia.html

    Global warming is opening up a whole new world without the US.

  18. pointer on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:37 am 

    “…look like ass. We are one of the strongest nations on the earth…”

    Gee, Davy, I’m with Makati and Cloggie on this one. My non-American friends look at the US with a mix of thigh -slapping hilarity and deep pity.

  19. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 6:54 am 

    “The US is too big to fail. Yeah, so was the USSR.”

    This just shows how lacking you and mad kat are about the global picture. I am not saying the US is not collapsing what I am saying is you extremist envision a very different collapse. This collapse I speak of is happening in Europe and China also. I have posted a number of articles that support my POV. You extremist are emotional and emotions are an enemy of the truth. This is so often seen the case with you two. You hate with vigor and your glory is beyond reality. You both talk about the end of your enemy and the assentation of your people. There are fantasies with little basis. What I see is a world falling apart and going down together. Science supports me. Common sense supports me. It is obvious that this is an interconnected world.

    The other issue neither of you two extremist can’t have is the luck of the draw. The process of collapse is random. It is irrational and it is dysfunctional. Since this is obviously happening everywhere it cannot be cased like growth can be. We are going to have surprises. Growth is now happening too but it is not all good growth. Much of the growth we have today is malinvestment that will bite later. Acting as though Europe and China have a golden decade ahead is just plain emotional hopium and hilarious. You two look hilarious and ridiculous at the same time.

  20. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:07 am 

    “Gee, Davy, I’m with Makati and Cloggie on this one. My non-American friends look at the US with a mix of thigh -slapping hilarity and deep pity.”

    Have you ever read what mad kat and dutch say? If you believe the fantasies then Geeze I have lost some respect for you. Yea, the US is a mess the culture absurd. The politics is dismal. Yet, the extremism here makes normal balance American critical discussion extreme. We can’t talk logically here about American problems. I am here to talk about these things but not to be told disrespected daily. If the anti-American moderators like me just folded then yes this sight would sink into extremism and be an anti-American magnet. People like grehg t can’t stand this. The pussy pricks me daily because he wants this board anti-American. He likes the extremism it allows his views space. I am winning and they are being neutered. It is a tough battle but one that I am dedicated to. I have been here going on 5 years and have seen this board change. It is amazing what two or three extremist can do to proper balanced discussion.

  21. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:10 am 

    “Go fuck yourselves anti-Americans you are no better and right now you are just bitches. LOL”

    As predicted, the delusionalist’s condition continues to deteriorate. Sad, but completely unnecessary. Help is only a telephone call away.

  22. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:15 am 

    “People like grehg t can’t stand this. The pussy pricks me daily because he wants this board anti-American.”

    I am not anti-American. You are losing your marbles.

  23. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:32 am 

    lol, did I wake you up widdle? You are the worst of the anti-American. You are the quiet supporter that acts moderate and balanced. You use this fake respectability to lend support to the extremist. You are disgusting person widdle g because you are a classic hypocrite and a fake. I know how effective I am by the extent of your disapproval. All you do now is stalk and prick me and some other Americans. You epitomize the ugly anti-American Canadian. Rarely do you say anything. You are too busy trying to protect the extremist with a stalking and pricking strategy. You give them prep talks and do your phony back slapping BS. SAD

  24. makati1 on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:37 am 

    Greg, I understand that the insane believe all other people are and not themselves. Some are beyond help. We seem to have a few here in that category. Davy and his shadow, Mastermind are my pick. Irrational and emotional at the drop of a word. Easily ignored.

  25. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 7:38 am 

    More delusions. You are in dire need of serious psychological help.

  26. TheNationalist on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:08 am 

    Oh for gods sake!, can we start discussing energy for petes sake!.
    I declare a draw between Mad kat makati and yankee douche bag Davy with old cloggy clogmeister in a close 3rd.
    Its finished, over, kaput finito.
    You all impress me with your singlemindedness and your main weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and a fanatical devotion to lost causes. Now I’m off to bange my head against the wall and have my night cap of espresso.

    Please!

  27. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:14 am 

    Listen to the bobsey twins acting so legitimate and wholesome but always reacting so defnively. Why, becuase they have no defense for what I say. Extremism is obvious and indisputable. The key on a board like this is to expose it and put the extremist on the defensive. It is very hard to brag and shag and not expose yourself to inconsistencies. Mad Kat is a walking inconsistency. Widdle G, does nothing but stalk and prick moderate Americans becuase he is an ugly Canadian anti-American. He seeks respect that moderates have but he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He has radical extremist views complete with history revisions and fantasy futures. FRAUD

  28. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:19 am 

    There will be no end to this nationalist. There
    Is no compromise with extremist. I even offered to not post for a week if makati, cloggie, and grehg t refrain. Non of them took me up . I think it would be great to allow unpressured comments instead of emotional extremism. So sorry, I have tried.

  29. joe on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:50 am 

    Not so sure the idea that the EU army will be a US friend. 1st the issue of how to structure and operate an organisation like that will be mammoth. It will need its own pentagon, it will need its own global organisations and will need its own global secret organisations to see with. All of this pushes the British and Americans into the background. This will legitimise Brexit to many and leave the Germans alone to provide the intellectual foundations. Since the eu can hardly agree on anything I’m not sure that joining up armies as they are, is a good idea. Could the French army operate and defend the Constitution of the Republic of France and presumably the eu, a notional economic bloc without a constitution? These are questions for the future but events change reality quickly after a long build up, I expect these issues to be resolved soon after Brexit.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/879322/eu-army-latest-5-countries-refuse-sign-up-france-germany-defence-force

    Nato will exist will more than half of its members plodding ahead in another military allience to which it also has pledged loyalty. One could almost forgive Americans for throwing up their hands and abandoning nato and leaving Europe because plainly these countries can’t serve 2 masters and they will only be paying into one….

    Notably there are 2 EU members (not pledged to leave) that have refused to sign on. Malta and Ireland.

    Could this ‘army’ be one day fused into an all powerful fighting force capable of winning any war? Well in the nuclear age that’s kinda missing the point. Could this army be used to form up the political union of the EU? Certainly. Those who are not part of it now or very soon may well be announcing their own exit from Europe. With almost every Eastern European country part of this new bloc one thing is sure, the Germans and French better be willing to back them up otherwise the eu won’t last very long.

    All I can really say it that I hope the EUs interests will always align with NATOs otherwise there could be problems one day.

  30. joe on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 8:56 am 

    Let the brow beating begin. EU questioning the rule of law in Malta

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malta-carbomb-parliament/eu-parliament-questions-independence-of-police-judiciary-in-malta-idUSKBN1DA1OU

    Ireland is constitutionally bound to be neutral. They cant join any military bloc. Wonder how long it will be before they are forced to change. Will the UK allow itself to be surrounded by an EU Navy?
    Let the games begin…..

  31. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 9:26 am 

    Not so sure the idea that the EU army will be a US friend. 1st the issue of how to structure and operate an organisation like that will be mammoth. It will need its own pentagon, it will need its own global organisations and will need its own global secret organisations to see with.

    Nobody in Europe questions the Atlantic alliance, let alone wants to make an enemy out of America. The point is that Europe intends to increase its military power, by integrating existing resources, like a 50% larger army then the US, into a single military machine.

    This is not anti-NATO, whose existence isn’t questioned. President Trump provided us in Europe the excuse to increase military power as a “burden sharing” measure (the West btw spends 70% of the global military budget, a bit of an overkill as it is, pun intended). The project is entirely pushed by France, not pacifist Germany, there merely follows key ally France.

    All of this pushes the British and Americans into the background.

    Uhuh. Brexit was entirely your idea, nobody asked the British to leave. And now you see the consequences.lol And it was Trump who decided to somewhat abandon the NWO and concentrate on America, its border and trade balances. Again nobody in Europe demanded the US to engage in these policies. But now that the US and UK have crossed the anti-NWO Rubicon, Europe jumps into the gap.

    Since the EU can hardly agree on anything

    Uhuh. Parliament, Euro currency, elections, commission, common agricultural policy, Europol, world class aerospace industry, world class energy policy and now a common defense policy Schengen agreement, European courts, etc., etc.

    Dream on.

    Everything the US, China and Russia have, Europe has. The only difference is that our “federal level” is much thinner than the rest (budget 1% EU-GDP). Obviously Brussels want more (2% EU-GDP budget) and direct taxation, but national resistance is stiff.

    Could the French army operate and defend the Constitution of the Republic of France

    Anglos love te denigrate the French military (“cheese eating surrender monkeys”), but I am not aware of a more impressive campaign in entire history of Christian Europe than that of Napoleon.

    https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8a44969665ef2017c8351e1f0e19988b

    (The French conquered Moscow, the Germans didn’t. Like the Germans they did not manage to conquer Britain, that’s a Dutch specialty.lol)

    Notably there are 2 EU members (not pledged to leave) that have refused to sign on. Malta and Ireland.

    Who?

    Could this ‘army’ be one day fused into an all powerful fighting force capable of winning any war? Well in the nuclear age that’s kinda missing the point.

    YOU are missing the point. Even in the nuclear age, if country A and B have both nuclear weapons, you can’t use them against each other, because in that case you go together. MAD still works.

    All I can really say it that I hope the EUs interests will always align with NATOs otherwise there could be problems one day.

    In the end of the day NATO will cease to exist and be replaced by a “Northern Alliance” of EU, Russia and parts of North-America to contain the coming #1 China.

  32. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:07 am 

    i’m a globalist because i’m here talking to my compatriots about eurotards and SENTAPBs.
    it’s very dumb the whole notion of nationalism when perusing teh intardweb which was developd and perfected mostly through US funding.

    for this reason i’m against brexit.

    I’m a former paultard I understand the imporance of trade.

  33. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 10:49 am 

    i’m a globalist because i’m here talking to my compatriots about eurotards and SENTAPBs.

    You give globalism a bad name; additionally I hope you understand that “globalism” and “compatriots” are concepts somewhat at odds with each other.

    it’s very dumb the whole notion of nationalism when perusing teh intardweb which was developd and perfected mostly through US funding.

    It is much dumber to give your country away to those folks who have different world views and/or motivations in life. Tensions preprogrammed. But perhaps you like war, those people exist. So when is the US conquest of Siberia by your women to begin, you keep bragging about.lol?

    Oh and TCP/IP is indeed sold as a US invention alright [*], but the World Wide Web was invented by a Brit, while being payed by a continental European institution (CERN).

    [*] Or was it? The key ingredients of TCP/IP, the datagram and package switched network is actually French:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pouzin

    But Americans are better at marketing, that I will give to you, regardless if we are talking about history, communications networks or lemonade.

    for this reason i’m against brexit.

    No surprises here. Brexit, if it happens in the first place…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5081299/May-faces-Tory-Remoaner-revolt-Brexit-Bill.html

    … it could easily become a soft-Brexit where Britain remains part of the common market and continuous to pay the membership fee, like with any club… Brexit means that Europe gets far more maneuvering space and can move towards more independence from the US + UK-sidekick.

    From all the “Five Eyes”, America is the most important for us Europeans to concentrate on. And we should focus on those Americans who are fed up with ZOG-USA and offer them a “European way out”.

    I’m a former paultard I understand the imporance of trade.

    Once a tard, always a tard.

  34. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:38 am 

    The current US development is mostly IQ or soft power (FB, google, Amazon). But there’s also a lot of intelligence going into hardware developement. New propulsion, new machines (Tesla)…

    IQ intel by itself is sufficient if the race is far ahead of everyone else. We are with the development of cloud computing.

    I’m not worried. America will invade the world by whatever means.

  35. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:49 am 

    in my opinion hardware is extremely difficult if not more than soft IQ. This is even true in computing hardware development. For this reason Intel will be the only remaining player in the industry.

    And aircrafts as example of hardware which can fail unpredictable. The failure modes are mechanical but also human error. For example if supertard is beyond reproach then nobody is brave enough to point out simple error in reasoning which could end up dooming the craft and killing them.

    Soft IQ can help augmenting human judgement.

    Sometimes cost cutting contribute to crashes.

    Crashing on peakoil.com is fine and harmless so for that reason I said supertards are beyond reproach

  36. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:50 am 

    Intel is a US company, wonder where putin, china, or eurotard will use to navigate their smart missiles? with a backdoor using hardware from US, perhaps?

  37. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 11:57 am 

    ” Widdle G, does nothing but stalk and prick moderate Americans becuase he is an ugly Canadian anti-American.”

    I am not anti-American, and you are in no way remotely even close to being a ‘moderate’. As mentioned numerous times before, I have many American relatives, and friends, and the vast majority of them would classify you as an extremist, ugly-American exceptionalist.

    “He has radical extremist views complete with history revisions and fantasy futures. FRAUD.”

    Just because YOU, do not understand, or agree with somebody else’s points of view, does not make them radical, an extremist, a revisionist, or a fraud. It means that you do not agree with them, period. It does not make you correct, and them wrong.

    “He seeks respect that moderates have but he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.”

    I don’t give a damn about what you think of me, and I doubt very much that anyone else cares what you think of them either. This is not a delusional Davy talent contest. It is an open Internet discussion forum, where people are free to discuss their ideas and points of view. You are not in control of other people’s thoughts, ideas, or opinions.

    “I even offered to not post for a week if makati, cloggie, and grehg t refrain. Non of them took me up.”

    Cloggie, Makati, and myself, are all very capable of expressing our own points of view, thoughts, ideas, and opinions. If you are unable to read them without responding with your usual emotional outbursts, name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations, then please ignore those comments, or move on.

  38. Apneaman on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 12:18 pm 

    The Great American Antiwar Novel

    “Compared to the unholy mob of authors who spew uncritically patriotic rah-rah pablum, the genre of antiwar fiction seems missing in action.”

    “The United States has been at war for 222 out of its 239 years—more than any other country on Earth, making it the most warlike, least peaceable nation on earth.”

    http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2017/11/the-great-american-antiwar-novel.html

    222 years out of 239 years – who are the extremists again?

    Hey kids did you know that, according to the boards very own Joe McCarthy JR, that any criticism of the empire’s 222 years of war, rape & plunder, gets you the extremist label?

    It’s a yellow armband.

  39. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 12:37 pm 

    Intel is a US company, wonder where Putin, China, or Eurotard will use to navigate their smart missiles? with a backdoor using hardware from US, perhaps?

    Commietard is delusional as usual. Intel’s chips are produced entirely with machines from Holland, actually from my home town Eindhoven. ASML controls more than 90% of the world market for chip producing machines. ASML is the real hi-tech company.

    Intel in contrast is a bunch of folks from India, who solemnly unpack the boxes from Eindhoven, try to make sense of the manual, stick the plug in the wall socket, type in some specs of the new micro-processor, push the submit button and the processors roll out of the machine from Eindhoven. Intel perhaps packages the chip in plastic, stamps an Intel logo on the chip and ships them. But ASML is the real deal, not Intel.

    America, China, Japan and the rest are dependent on Eindhoven-Holland, not the other way around.

    And now on your knees.lol

    ASML in 40 seconds:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxJ3SQB0og

    ASML Bird’s eye view:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY_EVoNmZvQ

    Merkel visits ASML:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dGe5rCIWng

    A visit to ASML’s cleanroom for EUV:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttbaaI5xUcg

    ASML-Eindhoven is in almost every smart phone, every tablet, every computer, every gadget on this planet.

    Keep ’em coming supertard.lol

  40. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 12:50 pm 

    aptard are you counting WW2 as US fault? politics find strange bedfellows. you should be in bed with eurotard.

    You’re not Cambridge Five, you can be recruited.

  41. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 12:58 pm 

    “aptard are you counting WW2 as US fault?”

    The US was involved in WW2 for less than 4 years out of those 239 years. Somewhat irrelevant to the point, would you not agree?

  42. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 1:46 pm 

    “I am not anti-American”
    You are most certainly are an anti-American and you specialize in stalking Americans. I am an American and I think I know when someone is attacking me. This has gone on for years now. The flip side of this poor behavior is you say very little on any subjects. This means you don’t contribute intellectually you just stalk and prick and support the poor behavior of others. Facts support this. Your comments are documented. I do not deny I am an extremist fighting extremist. This is a war that you extremist choose to wage I wage this war back with extremism because you extremist can understand extremism and disrespect. I have tried other methods that are nicer but you extremist have no interest in them. You complain about me using the word “battle” or “war” but this is what you are waging and it points to your fake respectability and hypocrisy. You do not respect Americans except those who think like you which is complete negativity for all that is American. Besides all this poor behavior you brag about yourselves as if you are special.

    “Just because YOU, do not understand, or agree with somebody else’s points of view, does not make them radical, an extremist, a revisionist, or a fraud. It means that you do not agree with them, period. It does not make you correct, and them wrong.”
    BULLSHIT, when those points of view are extreme and pointed towards me I certainly can classify them as extreme, radical, and revisionist. I am not saying they are wrong or right I am saying they are extremely critical and abusive. Facts can be packaged in a way to be little more than a distortion and peddled as a message of truth. You are a fraud for having the poor behavior you have by supporting these extremist in their war upon people like me and then saying I should be moot about these abusive attacks.

    “I don’t give a damn about what you think of me, and I doubt very much that anyone else cares what you think of them either.”
    Oh, you very much care what I think about you or I would not have got your attention like I do almost daily. You are obsessed with stalking and pricking Americans on a daily basis. You support mad kat in his extremist abusive comments because you like what he says and want him to continue these abuses. You are deflecting blame and projecting innocence for your poor behavior which is intellectually dirty double standards. Your behavior centers on personal hypocrisy to maintain your fake respectability.

    “Cloggie, Makati, and myself, are all very capable of expressing our own points of view, thoughts, ideas, and opinions.”
    This is not about you extremist it is about the others on the board that you people could give a shit about. I listen to them and they are tired of this behavior from ALL of us. It is you that are stalking, pricking, and ignoring others to pursue your extremism. As an offering to others I proposed that you extremist and I refrain from commenting so others can make their points without so much extremist noise but of course with you your ends justify the means. Your means is selfish commenting that is abrasive, abusive, and extremist. Instead of thinking of others here you continue to pursue your positions as your rights to be an asshole. Well, widdle G, there is more to your rights there is also the commons which extremist like you trash.

  43. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 2:07 pm 

    told you fake ZH and fake peace is not going to fly and supertard gonan give you the boot

  44. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 2:36 pm 

    “I am not saying they are wrong or right I am saying they are extremely critical and abusive.”

    This is quite a revealing statement.

    Translation: do not say things that are critical or abusive (to me), even if they are true.

  45. GregT on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 2:45 pm 

    “This is a war that you extremist choose to wage I wage this war back with extremism because you extremist can understand extremism and disrespect.”

    This is an open, unmoderated, internet forum. It is not your personal battleground, war, or whatever else you pretend to call it. That would be pure delusion on your part. You have no right to tell anybody else what they are allowed to think, opine, feel, or believe. You are not in control of other people.

    “Oh, you very much care what I think about you or I would not have got your attention like I do almost daily.”

    Visions of grandiosity, and pure delusion. As per usual. I don’t give a flying fuck what you think.

    “Well, widdle G, there is more to your rights there is also the commons which extremist like you trash.”

    Stop the name calling, childish rhetoric, emotional temper tantrums, and delusional accusations. Grow up, and act like an adult. If you refuse to do so, I will continue to call you out.

  46. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 2:54 pm 

    aptard are you counting WW2 as US fault?

    – Anglo planes destroyed every larger city in Germany and 600,000 people killed.
    – 200,000 German woman were raped by GIs.

    Corresponding German figures for the US: zero cities bombed, hence zero killed, 0 American women raped.

    Any questions, supertard?

    Oh and before the “anti-American” bullhorn begins to blow again, my own Dutch government was passive complicit in giving in to pressure from Churchill to allow overpass to French and British troops over Dutch territory to attack Germany’s industrial Ruhr heartland directly.

  47. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:51 pm 

    yes eurotard, i’m aware of the destruction of german cities and rape of women. It wasn’t me. If it’s up to me I wouldn’t retaliate since I’m not an extremist. but i’m just a tard and people like me is never in charge. plus america direct the rebuild of germany after the war so it was an attempt to repair the damages.

    fuhrer wasn’t good toward the jews and britain but it’s no reason to take it on civilians.

  48. fmr-paultard on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 3:53 pm 

    and it wasn’t americans doing the raping or killing. nazi’s surrendered to americans to get better treatment. soviets did most damages to germany after the war

  49. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 4:46 pm 

    plus america direct the rebuild of germany after the war so it was an attempt to repair the damages.

    Now that’s really nice! First they come to destroy your country and afterwards you get a tip as compensation.

    yes eurotard, i’m aware of the destruction of german cities and rape of women. It wasn’t me.

    We know that, but it were tards like you who happened to live 70 years earlier. And scumbags like “mastermind” openly admit that they are ready to rape.

    and it wasn’t americans doing the raping or killing. nazi’s surrendered to americans to get better treatment. soviets did most damages to germany after the war

    Yes they did! Indeed not as barbaric as your Soviet palls (2 million) but still barbaric (200,000). British, French and Germans did not rape as a routine. Higher morals.

    soviets did most damages to Germany after the war

    During the war Americans did more damage to Germany than the Soviets after the war. Any idea how beautiful these 150 German cities were…

    http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=160111
    (scroll down)

    …that were destroyed by the Anglos for no other purpose than that Germany resisted becoming incorporated into the US empire. And when the Soviets, Americans, Poles, British, French were done raping Germany they topped it off by accusing them of the most horrible crimes they did not commit during their victors show trial:

    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4881

    But it is all coming out (Russia!). Your horrible century is about to begin. Pray on your knees that we will come to your aid.

  50. Davy on Tue, 14th Nov 2017 5:21 pm 

    “This is an open, unmoderated, internet forum.”
    NO SHIT SHERLOCK, do you think you are some kind of Einstein with that brilliance. I have every right to say what the frig I want widdle. Like you said this is unmoderated. I will continue to disrespect you if you disrespect me. That is a promise especially for you, widdle g. You can play your games and act as though you are on the high ground but it is you who are initiating the attacks and now you are whining about it. As far as you and I am concerned ignore me or you will deal with me. If you haven’t noticed widdle, Ape and I do not have the spats you and I have. This is because he doesn’t prick me except in rare situations. We allow each other’s message to be heard by ignoring the other. You on the other hand are a prick and stalker so I am going to treat you like dirt every chance I get and I am here often.

    “Visions of grandiosity, and pure delusion. As per usual. I don’t give a flying fuck what you think.”
    Ooh, now the fucks are starting. Is widdle getting upset? Sure you care what I say this is why you stalk and prick. If you didn’t care you would ignore me. I am fine screwing with you because you are such a dumbass and a horrible person. It is the others that are tired of the issues. Of course you and your extremist buddies could give a shit about the others. You are narcissists stuck on yourselves.

    “Stop the name calling, childish rhetoric, emotional temper tantrums, and delusional accusations. Grow up, and act like an adult. If you refuse to do so, I will continue to call you out.”
    Hey, double standard dumbass, I am going to redouble my effort to screw with you. You will grow up when I am done with you. I am shown mad kat what years of shit is. All it takes for you extremist is a little moderation and respect but for you extremist that means a neutering of your extremism. Keep calling me out and I will keep disrespecting you. PROMISE.

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