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Kunstler: The Fat Lady Always Sings Twice

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That was the week Hillary began to look like the candidate who fell off a truck wearing a Nixon mask. Email-gate is taking on the odor of Watergate — the main ingredient of which was not the dopey crime itself but the stonewalling around it. The State Department Inspector General’s report saying definitively, no, she was not “allowed” to use a private, unsecured email server validated Donald Trump’s juvenile name-calling of “Crooked Hillary.”

We may never hear the end of that now (if Trump is actually nominated). And, of course, there lurks the Godzilla-sized skeleton in her closet of the still-unreleased Goldman Sachs speech transcripts, the clamor over which is sure to grow. Meanwhile the specter of the California primary looms, a not inconceivable loss to Bernie Sanders. And onto the convention in Philly which I contend will be even more fractious and violent than the 1968 fiasco in Chicago.

I’ll say it again: Hillary is a horse that ain’t gonna finish. The Democrats better be prepared to haul Uncle Joe out of the closet, fluff up his transplanted hair, wax his dentures, give him a few Vitamin B-12 shots, and stick a harpoon in his fist for the autumn run against the White Whale (if Trump is actually nominated).

The Republican convention in Cleveland is apt to be as bloody and violent a spectacle too (if Trump is actually nominated), with Black Lives Matters cadres having already promised to put on a show for global television and their Latino counterparts marching with Mexican Flags and cute signs saying: Trump: Chingate tu madre, perhaps garnished with the sobriquet pendejo. In such a situation, Trump has enormous potential to make things worse with his childish snap-backs. Hubert Humphrey in 1968 at least had the good sense to keep his mouth shut about the moiling multitudes out on Michigan Avenue inveighing against him.

The Vietnam War was a grave debacle, and it especially pissed off the young men subject to being drafted to fight in it, but the woof and warp of American life was otherwise intact. Blue collar workers still pulled in high wages in the Big Three auto plants, and women had not yet declared war on men, and the airwaves weren’t pornified, and there were still people in government with moral authority who loudly opposed official policy. The sobering martyrdoms of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy sanctified the opposition to the status quo. Even Hubert Humphrey himself, a thoughtful man underneath his Rotarian clown mask, began to turn away from Lyndon Johnson’s war hawks.

Nixon won. He surely benefited most not so much from the war issue and the riots in the streets as from the mass defection of Southern states from the long-entrenched domination of the Democratic Party — directly due to Johnson’s dismantling of the old Jim Crow laws. As a personality, Nixon was as much a pendejo as Donald Trump, but no one doubted his ability to run the machinery of government, if not the way they wanted to run it.

One difference today is that the two supposedly leading candidates, Hillary and Trump, are broadly loathed and mocked by people of all ages, not just disaffected youth. Trump appears to actually know so little about the major problems the country faces — energy, trade, the animus of foreigners — that he would be literally helpless in crisis. Hillary would enter the White House more mistrusted than Tricky Dick, and more starkly wired into the parasitical elites draining the body politic of its precious bodily fluids — in the immortal words of Doctor Strangelove.

Though it appears that Trump has consolidated the delegate vote needed for nomination, something tells me that a move is yet afoot to knock the gold ring out of his grubby fingers. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is playing it very cagey and you can imagine that current party stalwarts and office-holders all over the land are wringing their hands over being asked to follow Trump into some dark night of the American soul. Paul Ryan must know that a coup at the convention is still conceivable and that the action inside the hall will be as violent as the street-fighting outside.

KUNSTLER



80 Comments on "Kunstler: The Fat Lady Always Sings Twice"

  1. Apneaman on Tue, 31st May 2016 1:28 pm 

    Missouri dead beat dad.

    You should put together a dossier with all my comments that you personally interpret as “hate speech” and give it to one or all of the…..what? 17-18 US security agencies. Oh, and don’t forget to forward a copy to everyone of the “tech giant’s” heads of security too. You’ll be a hero! Get a medal. Merica is safe and secure with top men like you watching and taking notes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdC9P58hJT8

  2. Davy on Tue, 31st May 2016 1:51 pm 

    No need ape hole pretty much most of what you say has a hate undertone. The really good hate speach is when you call for the death and murder of those you hate. That is when you are at your best. You know your goofy cancer monkey shit. You also call for the death of all Americans which should be considered genocidal thinking. You and Makati Bill are guilty of that.

    You are a horrible person Ape hole masquerading as a Robin Hood. What a comical Canadian you are and a disgrace to your country. An ambassador of the worst of what is Canadian…which ain’t much!

  3. Rodster on Tue, 31st May 2016 2:06 pm 

    Nice summary Davy, although you left out the words idiot and unstable.

  4. PracticalMaina on Tue, 31st May 2016 2:49 pm 

    Yeah women in power are terrible, always bitching about being sexually harassed, and in such a holy land!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/31/almost-all-of-israels-32-women-in-parliament-have-been-sexually-harassed-or-assaulted/

    Hillary would be terrible though, Elizabeth Warren 2020

  5. Davy on Tue, 31st May 2016 2:50 pm 

    Rodster, welcome back.

  6. Apneaman on Tue, 31st May 2016 3:14 pm 

    Rodster, why don’t you say it to me directly? Coward?

  7. Stuifzand on Tue, 31st May 2016 4:32 pm 

    [part 3]

    Trump and Putin.

    They recognized each other and their intentions in a heart beat. Putin boosted Trump enormously with his compliments en Trump immediately returned the favor.

    Their solidarity is based in the circumstance that they have the same enemy: the US deep state. The US deep state controlled Moscow after 1991 when these Washington-backed oligarchs invaded Russia and bought everything for pennies on the dollar, using the weak drunkard Yeltsin as their proxy.

    The gigantic mistake these oligarchs made in 2000 was to bring Putin to power in the assumption that he would function as their little puppet, like Hillary Clinton.

    Wrong.

    As soon as he became president, Putin organized a Final Solution Ultra Lite and kicked the worst elements out of the country (to Israel or Britain) and put the ones who didn’t get the message (Khodorkovsky) in jail. Game, set and match Russia. I still believe that Berezovsky committed suicide in Britain because of the damage he did to The Cause of his brethren, out of pure embarrassment.

    Russia is “liberated territory”.

    Now America is next, if it is up to Trump and Putin and the fast rising European right.

    Talking about the European right: already in power in Hungary and Poland and strong in other eastern European countries.

    Here Bulgarian vigilantes busy defending their country against invading hostile military age young men:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwJSGy3-PDM

    Austria almost got a “populist” as a president, missing 0.1% (honest counting?).

    In France and Holland “populists” are leading in the polls.

    In German media they talk about nothing else but the AfD.

    Here in the East-German town Zwickau, the local population chases the justice minister Heiko Maas (“leftist rat!”) out of their town, shouting the same slogans with which they brought down the commies in 1989:

    youtube qZiWFDDw5Yw

    Merkel is now avoiding public speeches because she gets booed away (youtube V9-BUnX927M)

    It is only a matter oft time until a western European country “folds”.

    Once Trump will be elected president (IF that happens), Europe will be in the same position as eastern Europe was in 1985 when Gorbachev rose to power: like Moscow’s satraps were no longer backed by Moscow, likewise the Merkel/Juncker bunch will no longer be backed by Washington. Trump has already heavily criticized Merkel’s insane immigration policies. The election of Trump would give the signal that the time of the multicultis in Europe is over. This could get pretty nasty.

    Here the aristocrat Elisabeth Storch of the AfD openly “advising” (1:30) on the German MSM that Merkel would be well-advised to flee to South-America (like Erich Honecker did) to escape the wrath of the German population.

    Youtube wfxlEKK-F-c

    Once the European right will have taken over and connect with Russia (“Paris-Berlin-Moscow” axis), Europe has a bloc of 700 million that if necessary could intervene on North-American soil if the US will sink in total chaos of civil war. It would be 1776 all over again, albeit with massive larger numbers, on all sides.

    1776: 1.5 million “Americans” (European colonialistsreally ) of which 0.5 million pro-British. Population France: 23 m, Britain: 11 m, Holland: 1.5 m. France, Holland and later Spain wanted to kick Britain in the nuts and deprive it of a valuable colony because the Brits became too powerful in Europe. The Dutch began with weapons deliveries and funding of the insurgents. In the end the French army tilted the balance. Ca. 13k French died against only 3k Americans.

    201x: 330 million Americans, 700 million Europeans. Americans divided perhaps 50/50 between (mostly white) “constitutionalists” and leftist “neo-bolsheviks”, who want to abolish the Constitution and establish a racial communist state. Paris-Berlin-Moscow obviously will chose the side of the former and help carve out a new smaller constitutionalist republic, mainly comprising of “fly-over country” and parts of Canada and strongly tied to Europe.

    The concept of the West will be buried and replaced with the North, in strong opposition to the South.

    This is how it could be being played out in the coming years.

    [last part]

  8. Apneaman on Tue, 31st May 2016 6:10 pm 

    Missouri absentee father and husband.

    Y’all committing suicide and I’m watching commenting and laughing and so are many of American’s going by the comments I read – they know too. You think my shit is hateful? Kinda like when…. what? A hundred million? The whole of merica cheered like they won the powerball lotto when Bin Laden, allegedly got whacked. Real fucking mature and stately. I felt the hate and blood lust through the TV. The whole thing was theater and the sheep loved it. The most despicable behavior I’ve ever witnessed. Entire country is a fucking joke. That’s who a majority of you are -that moment right there. You’re the country who uses and preys upon each other like vultures and has been fucking over countries for profit for over a century and I’m a hater? Oh the killer Empire, but with good manner’s huh?.I hold the mirror up and you can’t stand it – that’s what it is. Furthermore, you are a humorless fuck – never seen a joke from you in two years and you and obviously you can’t recognize black humor or sarcasm either. Maybe it’s the meds? Thanks for the compliments btw. You really should take my advice and fuck off out of here and start spending “normal” time with your family while you still can. If your half as knowledgeable about what is happening as you claim to be then you know the hour is late. Happily, your alternative is to spend that time with me cause I ain’t going anywhere mofo. Oh I’d just be so flattered if ya did Davy boy.

    Nation of clowns

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tit9MMLg-t0

  9. Davy on Tue, 31st May 2016 6:15 pm 

    Wow, ape hole, that was some drama. Why not get back on message. So I gave you a bloody nose, get over it. Man up and move on. Your rants are getting boring.

  10. GregT on Tue, 31st May 2016 7:29 pm 

    “What is greener pastures? Goofy. How is that wrapped up in nationalism and a bigger picture issue?”

    Crystal clear Davy. If you are still unable to figure it out, there’s no point in continuing any attempts at trying explain it to you.

    Trying to get through to your thick skull is like flogging a dead horse.

  11. Davy on Tue, 31st May 2016 7:38 pm 

    Typical response from someone that has no answer. What am I supposed to read your mind? Why not just admit you have no idea what you meant dummy? I know, it’s a Canadian pride thAng.

  12. GregT on Tue, 31st May 2016 7:43 pm 

    Very good comments Stuifzand.

  13. GregT on Tue, 31st May 2016 7:54 pm 

    Two years trying to get through to you Davy. There’s no point. You’re a lost cause.

  14. Apneaman on Tue, 31st May 2016 8:15 pm 

    Missouri mouth breather, you have been writing the same “collapse” expository essay (all proper like they trained you) since I showed up two years ago and god knows how long you have tortured the old timers with it before I showed up. Christ, can’t you show them some mercy and give it a break?

    Ass whopping’s and bloody noses eh? Usually that’s judged by others, but since no one has ever said that you have, I guess your stuck with honoring yourself. You’re real good at it btw. Must be all the practice – a lifetime. I bet you grade your cookie cutter “collapse” expository essay and get an A+ every time. I get it – silver spoon can do no wrong.

    Hey since your an expert on hate crimes N all, is challenging another commenter to a knife fight, like you have done, considered a hate crime or just a threat to do bodily harm? Isn’t “a threat to do bodily harm” a criminal offense? I’ll wait for the expert to get back to me on that. No rush, just curious.

  15. Davy on Tue, 31st May 2016 8:25 pm 

    Ape Hole, who cares. You are such a looser. Move on and say something intelligent. People here get tired of your bad breath.

  16. IPissOnLoser on Tue, 31st May 2016 9:02 pm 

    A lot of countries in Europe are now rapidly becoming dysfunctional. Really difficult to get good info because of media censure and political correctness.

    This is the best new channel about what is happening in Sweden that I could find.

    Latest new update on Sweden from someone living there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsjqzyZNpHU

  17. Apneaman on Tue, 31st May 2016 9:58 pm 

    Memorial Day: Trump’s War On Climate Action Would Ensure A World Of Wars

    “On Thursday, Donald Trump declared that if elected President, he would wage an all-out war against national and global climate action. On Friday, he went so far as to to deny the reality of California’s devastating drought.
    Because Trump gave his big energy and climate speech right before Memorial Day, it is altogether fitting and proper that we look at what Trump’s plans to destroy a livable climate would mean for the future of war.
    Trump said he would kill the EPA’s Clean Power Plan and all domestic climate-related regulations. And he said, “We’re going to cancel the Paris climate agreement” — truly humanity’s best if not only chance to avoid catastrophic irreversible climate change lasting 1000 years.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/05/30/3782673/memorial-day-trump-climate/

    Progressive Joe Romm is full of shit. If trump was elected and could pull off all his anti climate and EPA shit, it would not matter except for making you and your kids breath even more polluted air and add some more forcing – so maybe speed up the inevitable some. It’s not like the Chinese or Indians or Russians or anyone are going to give up fossil fuel use unless any alternative is cheaper. Too late. Joe migh come around some day. Super hopeful democrat science explainer, Robertscribbler seems to be coming around. For years he banned anyone who mentioned human extinction and look at him now:

    “robertscribbler / May 31, 2016

    I don’t believe we are inevitably doomed. And I think a big push by all of humankind might get us out of the worst of this mess. I do believe, though, that we lock in more bad outcomes with each day that we burn oil, gas, and coal, with every instance in which we emit more carbon into the already carbon-laden airs. And I believe that if we don’t stop burning fossil fuels soon, then human civilization is probably doomed to suffer a devastating collapse and that if we don’t halt that harmful burning, then human extinction is a very real risk.

    Not a doomer and not giving up, but that he even suggests it’s even possible is a big turn around.

    Trump and all politicians are irrelevant regarding AGW because no one is intentionally stopping.

  18. theedrich on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 12:04 am 

    Stuifzand (parts 1 & 2), I could not have said it better myself.  Thanks for laying it out in detail.

    JP:  Yes, yes, I know what “pendejo” means.  My point was that (in México) I have only heard “chinga,” without the “-te.”

  19. theedrich on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 2:57 am 

    Note the latest about crooked Hillary from ZeroHedge at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-31/wikileaks-asks-if-smoking-gun-email-will-bring-down-hillary :

    From: Hillary Clinton
    To: Jake Sullivan
    Date: 2011-06-15 20:21
    Subject:

    UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787519 Date:
    01/07/2016

    RELEASE IN PART
    B5,B6

    From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com>
    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:21 AM
    To: ‘sullivanjj@state.gov’
    Subject: Re:_________________

    p {background-color: yellow;}If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.

    From: Sullivan, Jacob J [mailto:Sullivann@state.gov]
    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 08:17 AM
    To: H
    Subject: Re: B5

    They say they’ve had issues sending secure fax. They’re working on it.

    From: Sullivan, Jacob J
    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 08:00 AM
    To: ‘HDR22@clintonemail.com’ <HDR22@clintonemail.com>
    Subject: Re: _________________

    ?!!! Checking

    From: H [mailto:HDR22#clintonemail.com]
    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 07:52 AM
    To: Sullivan, Jacob J
    Subject: Re:_________________

    I didn’t get the TPs yet.

    From: Sullivan, Jacob J [mailto: SullivanJJ@state.gov]
    Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 05:51 PM
    To: H
    Subject: Fw: _________________

    You’ll get tps this eve. They’re coming together.

    From: Spence, Matthew J. [mailto:_______________
    Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 04:15 PM
    To: Sullivan, Jacob J
    Subject: __________________

    UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05787519 Date: 01/07/2016

  20. Davy on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 7:17 am 

    You might need to watch what you say in the P’s these days.

    “Philippines’ New President Endorses Murdering Corrupt Journalists”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-31/philippines-new-president-endorses-murdering-corrupt-journalists

  21. Davy on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 7:25 am 

    We are heading into a dangerous time at many levels and one of them is the social level. Hillary “gate” and hatred of Trump are going to combine in a maelstrom of collective anger. It is likely around elections things are going to get ugly. That will not be good for markets and the only optimism in the economy now is the markets.

    I would begin prepping if I were you. Prepping will not save you but it can’t hurt making the most basic preparations.

    “Elite Special Forces Insider Warns Of Serious Civil Unrest This Summer: “Everything Is Right For Things To Go Very Wrong”
    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/elite-special-forces-insider-warns-of-serious-civil-unrest-this-summer-everything-is-right-for-things-to-go-very-wrong_05302016

    “For civil unrest to happen you have to have a bunch of little things that set up for the perfect situation. You have to have a reason. People are so emotionally involved in this Presidential election right now… and finally for the first time realizing there is something wrong with our country… the eyes are open… we know that something’s not right. Even though we have a President saying ‘I’m trying to break down borders‘ we’ve never had so much hate between different racial segments… what’s even more scary is that we know all of these things individually are setting up the perfect opportunity for serious civil unrest…”

  22. Apneaman on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 3:50 pm 

    America’s Rising Death Rate Is a Sign of Several Scary Trends

    “Recent research revealed the sharp increase of deaths among white, less-educated Americans since 1999, while death rates among blacks and Hispanics over a similar time period fell overall. The higher death rates were attributed to increases in suicide, drug-related poisonings, and chronic liver disease, a sign of alcohol abuse.”

    “The research aligns with the preliminary CDC data: the death rate for drug overdoses rose to 15.3 by mid-2015 compared to 14.2 by mid-2014. Suicide deaths, meanwhile, jumped to 13.2 deaths in the third quarter of 2015 versus”

    http://fortune.com/2016/06/01/death-rate-increase-america/

  23. zoidberg on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 3:58 pm 

    It’s nationalists vs globalists.

    Guess which side has more courage of their convictions and you’ll see the winner.

    Morale is to men as three is to 1 – Napoleon.

  24. Apneaman on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 4:12 pm 

    Spike in Alaska wildfires is worsening global warming, US says

    Report from US Geological Survey says northern wildfires must now be seen as significant driver of climate change, not just a side-effect

    “The devastating rise in Alaska’s wildfires is making global warming even worse than scientists expected, US government researchers said on Wednesday.

    The sharp spike in Alaska’s wildfires, where more than 5 million acres burned last year, are destroying a main buffer against climate change: the carbon-rich boreal forests, tundra and permafrost that have served as an enormous carbon sink.

    Northern wildfires must now be recognised as a significant driver of climate change – and not just a side-effect, according to the report from the US Geological Survey.

    “This is one of the surprises that we haven’t talked about much,” said Virginia Burkett, chief climate scientist at the USGS. “It has tremendous implications for the carbon that is locked up in Alaska soils and vegetation.””

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/01/alaska-wildfires-climate-change

  25. zoidberg on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 4:22 pm 

    Lol

    Doom!

  26. makati1 on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 5:57 pm 

    Ap, it appears that we have entered many feedback loops. And not just in the North. South America is not immune to large, accidental fires.

    “The size of the Amazon rain-forest has been shrinking – and not just because of traditional deforestation.

    Fires that creep slowly and low in the forest under-story burned nearly 3 percent of the world’s largest tropical rain-forest in a little more than a decade, scientists at NASA say.

    Because they are hard to measure from space, “we’ve never known the regional extent or frequency of these under-story fires,” said Doug Morton of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., the lead author of a study publicized by the space agency Friday.

    The study estimated that between 1999 and 2010, under-story forest fires burned more than 33,000 square miles (85,500 square kilometers), or 2.8 percent of the forest….”

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0608/Fires-have-burned-3-percent-of-Amazon-rainforest-in-12-years-NASA-says

    And the heat goes on…

  27. Apneaman on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 9:24 pm 

    You bet Mak. Most of the feedbacks are now unstoppable and soon some will be going exponential. The humans could get their first arctic blue ocean within months.

    I disagree with Dr Guy McPherson on extinction, but here is the up to date list of feedbacks he has compiled with all the references. Big bowl of popcorn to go through it all.

    Self-Reinforcing Feedback Loops (Part 2 of 3)
    Updated frequently, and most recently 1 June 2016.

    http://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/self-reinforcing-feedback-loops-2/

  28. Apneaman on Wed, 1st Jun 2016 9:28 pm 

    This photo looks a lot like US boots on the ground in Syria

    http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-06-01/photo-looks-lot-us-boots-ground-syria

  29. Davy on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 5:33 am 

    “OECD Warns Of “Disorderly Housing Market Correction” In Canada”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-01/oecd-warns-disorderly-housing-market-correction-canada

    “That may be in doubt, because none other than the OECD itself rang a alarm bells over the frothy nature of the Toronto and Vancouver housing markets and high levels of consumer debt. “Very low borrowing rates have encouraged household credit growth and underpinned rapidly rising housing prices, particularly in Vancouver and Toronto, which together are a third of the Canadian housing market,”

    “In relation to household incomes, both house prices and household debt are high,” it added, throwing more fuel on the fire for those who are fretting over bubble fears.”

    “But the loudest warning was the OECD’s assessment of a “disorderly housing market correction,” notably in Toronto and Vancouver, as the biggest threat to Canada’s economy.“ This would damp residential investment and private consumption, and could threaten financial stability.”

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