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Kunstler: Diminishing Returns

Public Policy

These two words are the hinge that is swinging American life — and the advanced techno-industrial world, for that matter — toward darkness. They represent an infection in the critical operations of daily life, like a metabolic disease, driving us into disorder and failure. And they are so omnipresent that we’ve failed to even notice the growing failure all around us.

Mostly, these diminishing returns are the results of our over-investments in making complex systems more complex, for instance the replacement of the 37-page Glass-Steagall Act that regulated American banking, with the 848 page Dodd-Frank Act, which was only an outline for over 22,000 pages of subsequent regulatory content — all of it cooked up by banking lobbyists, and none of which replaced the single most important rule in Glass-Steagall, which required the separation of commercial banking from trafficking in securities. Dodd-Frank was a colossal act of misdirection of the public’s attention, an impenetrable smokescreen of legal blather in the service of racketeering.

For Wall Street, Dodd-Frank aggravated the conditions that allow stock indexes to only move in one direction, up, for nine years. During the same period, the American economy of real people and real stuff only went steadily down, including the number of people out of the work force, the incomes of those who still had jobs, the number of people with full-time jobs, the number of people who were able to buy food without government help, or pay for a place to live, or send a kid to college.

When that morbid tension finally snaps, as it must, it won’t only be the Hedge Funders of the Hamptons who get hurt. It will be the entire global financial system, especially currencies (dollars, Euros, Yen, Pounds, Renminbi) that undergo a swift and dire re-pricing, and all the other things of this world priced in them. And when that happens, the world will awake to a new reality of steeply reduced possibilities for supporting 7-plus billion people.

The same over-investments in complexity have produced the racketeering colossus of so-called health care (formerly “medicine”), in case you’re wondering why the waiting room of your doctor’s office now looks exactly like the motor vehicle bureau. Meanwhile, it’s safe to say that the citizens of this land have never been so uniformly unhealthy, even as they’re being swindled and blackmailed by their “providers.” The eventual result will be a chaotic process of simplification, as giant hospital corporations, insurance companies, and overgrown doctors’ practices collapse, and the braver practitioners coalesce into something resembling Third World clinics.

We’re still struggling to even apprehend the damage being done to people by cell phones — and I’m not even referring to whatever microwaves actually do to brain cells. Many find it amusing to see whole streets and campus byways filled with young people staring into their phones. Whatever they’re gaining in endorphin hits from “being connected” is undermined by the immense losses they’re suffering in real social skills and the sinister effects of behavioral conditioning by the programmers of web-based social networks. These failures are being expressed in new social phenomena like flash mobs and the manipulation of college students into Maoist thought police — and these are only the most visible manifestations. A more insidious outcome will be a whole generation’s failure to develop a sense of personal agency in a long emergency of civilization that will require exactly that aptitude for survival.

Among the more popular and idiotic strains of diminishing returns is the crusade to replace gasoline-powered cars with electric-powered vehicles. And for what? To promote the illusion that we can continue to be car-dependent and live in suburbia. Neither of those wishful notions is supported by reality. Both of them will soon yield to the fundamental crisis of capital scarcity. In the meantime, hardly anyone is interested in the one thing that would produce a better outcome for Americans: a return to walkable communities scaled to economic reality.

The convulsions over President Trump’s vivid clowning are just a symptom of the concealed rot eating away at the foundations of American life. What they demonstrate most of all is the failure of this society’s sensory organs — the news media — to ascertain what is actually happening to us. And the recognition of that failure accounts for the current state of the media’s disrepute, even if its critics are doing a poor job of articulating it.


86 Comments on "Kunstler: Diminishing Returns"

  1. Boat on Tue, 22nd Aug 2017 5:23 pm 


    Lol at your last post. I spent maybe 5 min checking out Alex Jones to know he is just another shock jock. Another idiot like mak, glen beck, greggiet, hannity, al sharpten etc

  2. Davy on Tue, 22nd Aug 2017 7:00 pm 

    clog, hates us now that is until we save his pansy ass again one day in the future.

  3. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 22nd Aug 2017 7:15 pm 

    Sure you did boatietard, amerikans like you are AJs target demographic. Barely literate. trailer-park retards with pickup trucks running on 3 cylinders who hang on every word CNN and faux-news fabricate.

  4. Makati1 on Tue, 22nd Aug 2017 7:26 pm 

    JJHMAN, that is the world today and, especially, the US. I doubt any of us hate America. We just hate what it is doing to the rest of the world and what is happening to it from inside. But that it how ALL empires end. The German empire in two world wars and the British in the second. Now it is America’s turn and it is well deserved. Theft an murder for the last 70+ years makes it the Number One terrorist organization in the world. And, if you support it by paying taxes and not working to change it, you are a terrorist. I no longer pay any taxes there and I am spreading the facts about it from my new home in the Ps. I’m not a terrorist. Are you?

    BTW: Oil is OLD NEWS and most of what you read about it are lies to keep the investors/suckers on board the sinking SS Petroleum. Noting else. Petroleum EROEI is sinking and taking the economies of most countries down with it. End of story.

  5. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 4:43 am 

    clog, hates us now that is until we save his pansy ass again one day in the future.

    I have explained to you ad nauseam what really happened during WW1 and WW2 and you never ever challenged that revisionism on an intellectual level. Because you would not know where to begin and because deep inside you know it to be true.

    WW1 was instigated by the British empire because they noticed they were eclipsed by Germany on world markets. They bought Russia (Bosporus) and France (Alsac-Lorraine) in their coalition and waited for the proper moment for the assault (Sarajevo assassination).

    WW2 was intentionally instigated by US Jewry, who had hooked up with their buddies in the human slaughterhouse USSR in 1933, pushed Chamberlain in that fatal war guarantee for Poland and next began to instigate the Poles to cleanse the Germans from Versailles Poland, forcing Hitler’s hand, resulting in the European war US Jews wanted, so they could divide the loot between the US and USSR.

    You ZOG-serfs never saved our European asses. Instead you helped putting Europe in that multicult ZOG-empire of yours as a colony, so we could all be cosily strangled together through mass migration, intended to wipe us out. America is the worst disaster in the history of European man worldwide.

    But you don’t want to see that, blinded as you are by your “patriotism” (read: your fascination with your 10 carriers with which you can terrorize the rest of the planet for a few more years) and instead keep shouting self-defeating words like “racism”, put in your minute brain by those folks who want to see you dead.

    Good luck with your descent into third world status. MAGA my foot.

  6. Makati1 on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 5:32 am 

    Cloggie, you are spot on with your European war history.

    Any American that believes that they saved Europe/democracy, needs to look at WHEN the US entered the wars and why. Both times the US came in when Germany was already weak and losing. (After the blockades stopped the US from shipping goods to Germany). Japan was forced into a war with the US by ending of oil exports to them. Then, Pearl Harbor was sacrificed (shades of 9/11) to start the profitable war in the Pacific. It was no “coincidence” that the US carriers were not in port that day. It was planned. But then, Most Americans will never see or hear such truths, or believe them. It’s ALL about money as far as the US is concerned. Even today with the multi-national’s enforcers called the US Military.

  7. Davy on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 6:20 am 

    What’s wrong clogster, did I touch a nerve. LOL BTW, I did not read your copy and paste drivel. I should keep a running total on how often you slap down this shit on the board. Talk about stale.

  8. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 7:07 am 

    Never a dull moment in Davy’s multi-ethnic paradise. ISIS Islamist glossy of June this year, describing how to derail rail traffic in both America and Europe:

    These folks are too stupid to hijack four planes, circumvent US air defense and crash a number of high-rise buildings. They could not even blow up the cathedral of Barcelona last week. But driving a car or truck into a crowd or mounting a piece of iron to a rail, that should be in the realm of modest capabilities of our beard-man pets.

    I did not read your copy and paste drivel.

    Right. You didn’t read it but knew it was drivel anyway.

    You need a new text writer, Yankee.

  9. Davy on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 7:36 am 

    “Never a dull moment in Davy’s multi-ethnic paradise.”

    I agree but yours is in worse shape and set to explode with pockets of ethnic unassimilated people ready to kill you from within. We have always been a multi-ethnic mess. Your people don’t know how to adapt multi-ethically. You do fine with nationalistic borders but now you are infiltrated and destabilized. If this were not enough. Africa is set to explode with just a little sea between you. Your elite want a NWO of multi-ethnic workers to make up for your population decline. They have listened to too many economists. Just a few racist like you crow a whity Paris Berlin Moscow 1000 year Reich nonsense. LOL. Cloggie, the US is a mess, has been a mess, and will be a mess. We are letting off steam now in conflict but your steam is an out of control pressure cooker set to explode. Good luck whity when Mohamed tells you to bend over.

  10. Makati1 on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 7:43 am 

    Cloggie, you have to ignore the Missouri Jackass. All he can do these days is bray. Hee Haw! LOL

  11. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 7:59 am 

    Cloggie, you have to ignore the Missouri Jackass. All he can do these days is bray. Hee Haw! LOL

    Nah, I like robust cafe-brawl-like discussions and throwing with cream pies. You can’t have that fun with ignore lists. And you, Davy, Greg and others are not really my enemies.

    It is just that Davy has trouble accepting new geopolitical realities. For that I have buckets of patience with him.

    And crates with cream

  12. Davy on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 8:12 am 

    Cloggie, you have had significant impact on me with the understanding of alternative energy. I do digest some of your alternative geopolitical. I do not disagree with all of it. I just balance (render) the emotions of the anti-Americanism out. I add in your negatives which you and others mostly dismiss. You make some good points but they are not “The” point. Anyone on here too sure off themselves and without adaptation is surely an agendist selling a personal message. This site is anti-American site it is going to support half-truths because of that leaning. People like populist talk. They allow distorted truths and embellishments as part of the support of their positions. They like taking sides and feeling part of the group. It is a human thing. It is those who take their own road based on their truth based understandings I respect the most. Not those who talk the toughest and drivel the most.

  13. Hello on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 8:21 am 

    Europe is in much worse shape than the US, no doubt. Europe still has strong cultural identities. In a crash course of integration, the EU is forcing everybody to be ‘equal’. This is a process that usually takes time, many many generations. It is forced upon Europe in 1 or 2 genrations.

    An Italien is distinglty different from an Englishman, for example. In the US that is not the case anymore. Whether you’re from Montana or Loisiana, whether you were French, Polish or Swiss, there’s practically no difference anymore. Maybe some very faint local food choices.

    Obviously the more different people are to begin with, the longer it takes for them to become ‘one’. The 2 hardest features to mix is skin color and religion. And again here, europe is in a tough spot. Over many generation, muslim customs will be integrated, in the same way that Christianity was integrated into the ‘heretic’ believe system from before its time.

    The US again is in much better shape. Mexicans are much more compatible and are practically assimilated within 1 or 2 generations.

    Negros is a different story, as the many negro ghettos in the US proof. I think those ghettos is what europe should look forward to, if they keep importing.

  14. onlooker on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 8:38 am 

    Sounds like a very reasonable analysis Hello. But Cog seems to completely discount this viewpoint even though Europe is already forcefully integrated as opposed to the US which has had generations to gradually integrate. And what about the resources needed to keep so many people outside its borders. Or to maintain order within from rebellious non whites. Hard to see how US is going to be more harmed by immigrants than Europe.

  15. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 9:46 am 

    Europe is in much worse shape than the US, no doubt. Europe still has strong cultural identities

    You should doubt yourself a little more. We are in better shape, for demographic reasons. And we have a Russian plan B.

    In 2017 our strong identity is our capital, where in 1914 and 1939 it was our weakness, because it enabled powerful outsiders and newcomers to play us out against each other. Now we have more “identitarian reserves” than “nation of immigrants” USA and better chances of defense.

    An Italien is distinglty different from an Englishman, for example. In the US that is not the case anymore. Whether you’re from Montana or Loisiana, whether you were French, Polish or Swiss, there’s practically no difference anymore.

    Yes, European-Americans can claim to be the first “ethnic European” on this planet. Irish, Germans and Italians could indeed be assimilated, which was difficult enough. But assimilating with Africans and “Azteks”, like Washington wants? Not going to happen. That’s a bridge too far.

    And again here, europe is in a tough spot. Over many generation, muslim customs will be integrated

    Muslims don’t want to be integrated. Yes they are willing to mary a white woman, provided she converts so she can function as another womb for new Muslims. Respect for the other non-Muslim doesn’t exist in Islam. Forget it. Islam is the most right-wing ideology on the planet. There are here to attempt to take the lot over.

    I see this invasion as the perfect opportunity to finally get rid of this 2000 year old corruption called Christianity and root it out once and for all (“you can kill my son and rape my wife and daughter, but I am going to forgive you and love you anyway…yuck”)… and go full Roman instead.

    It has been boring peace for too long anyway. The Jews who tried to impose communism on us, like they did to Russia, were disciplined between 1940-1945 and were forced to move the Palestine, US, Argentine, stuck behind the Iron Curtain, etc. The Muslims who try to impose Sharia on us, will suffer the same fate: being thrown out of Europe for a fourth time. Such will be the logic of the coming multi-polar world order that will replace US-promoted globalism (“Greater Zion”/NWO).

  16. Hello on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 10:01 am 

    >>>> but assimilating with Africans and “Azteks”, like Washington wants? Not going to happen

    Mexicans are practically assimilated. I suggest an educational trip to California.
    Negros I agree, maybe impossible? Time will tell.

    >> Muslims don’t want to be integrated.
    That is not a “want” or not. Once influx of new immigrants stops, the slow grinding down starts. Every generation grows a bit closer. But I agree it will take time, a lot of time.
    That’s what I said, europe is in a tough spot. Assimilating muslims and negros is not fun.

    >>>> Christianity and root it out once and for all
    You don’t seem to understand much about Christianity, do you? Might I remind you that whole continents were conquered in the name of Christianity. The new “I love you anyway” ideology is the results of liberal and politically correct ideals brought on by abudance and excessive prosperity.

    I’m certainly no friend of Jews, but claiming they have a “master plan” to conquer the world is so far fetched, it’s laughable.

  17. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 10:50 am 

    You don’t seem to understand much about Christianity, do you? Might I remind you that whole continents were conquered in the name of Christianity. The new “I love you anyway” ideology is the results of liberal and politically correct ideals brought on by abudance and excessive prosperity.

    “Conquering” is a big word, since the invaded hardly had the means to resist. It was more like going ashore and setting up trading posts and warehouses. Most Indians (from India) never knew they are a British colony. Even in Europe in the Middle Ages, nobody moved further from the place he was born than 10 km.

    I’m certainly no friend of Jews, but claiming they have a “master plan” to conquer the world is so far fetched, it’s laughable.

    I laugh at your ignorance; together we laugh a lot. Laughing is good for your health. Hahaha.

    Without them:

    – no US WW1 entry
    – no communism
    – no WW2
    – no JFK assassination
    – no multicult (you are so against)
    – no 9/11
    – no Iraq war
    – no deep state trying to topple Trump
    – no Syrian war, overthrow Ukraine government, MH17, demonization Putin

    Snore on.

  18. Hello on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 11:00 am 

    Sorry Clog, Conspirace is too compliated.

    There’s simpler answer: The world is a backstabbing, double dealing, unpredictable mad house and everybody tries to take advantage of opportunities.

    I thought you’re some sort of high tech dude?
    Never heard the saying “the simple explanation is the most probable one”?

  19. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 12:36 pm 

    Never heard the saying “the simple explanation is the most probable one”?

    Yep, I agree. Here you have your simple, most probable explanation:

    The religion IS the conspiracy.

  20. Apneaman on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 12:52 pm 

    clog loves surfing the web on the Jew founded and owned Google.

  21. Apneaman on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 12:55 pm 

    clog loves sharing Nazi stories with his loser bum buddies on Jew founded and owned Facebook.

  22. Apneaman on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 1:14 pm 

    clog, you forgot a few big names in your list of accomplished euro-tards yesterday.

    Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Sigmund Freud, Baruch de Spinoza, Fritz Haber, Adolf von Baeyer, Franz Kafka.

    That’s just a few off the top of my head. Glad to help out.

  23. pathology on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 1:41 pm 


    You Jew slobering troll. Your bought and paid for. You should walk around with a Jew cock or the pubes from one of those hairy Jewbacca pussies in your mouth.

  24. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 1:45 pm 

    Archimedes, Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Boltzmann, Lavoisier, Maxwell, Boyle, Darwin, Descartes, Lorentz, Edison, Euclid, Faraday, Hahn, Heinsenberg, Helmholtz, von Humboldt, Huygens, Joule, van Leeuwenhoek, Laplace, Leonardo, Mendelev, Pascal, Pasteur, Planck, Roentgen and the list goes on and on.

    No Muslims, no Africans, no Asians. Indeed a few Jews.
    This is the culture you would like to destroy.
    We need you like the plague.

  25. Apneaman on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 2:02 pm 

    pathology, I would, but I don’t want your mom and sister to get jealous and angry. Your mom already told me she was getting tired of licking other sluts pussy juice off my cock.

  26. Apneaman on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 2:23 pm 

    clog how lucky you are to have sooooo many awesome Jews where you live.

    List of Dutch Jews

    All of them are accomplished and yo are NOT.

    clog, what’s it like to feel that hate everyday? Have to watch them Jews own and run the world while you sit at home furiously pounding out your rage on the keyboard all day everyday? One comment after another and yet, nothing changes. The anger and fury of your powerlessness is too obvious. Have you felt like that your whole life? I’m certain that nothing will change by the time you depart this world and go off to white supremacist heaven. When you’re in heaven and you are looking down on the world and it’s still run by Jews, won’t that actually be hell?

    Three cheers for da Jews….Hip hip hooray, Hip hip hooray, Hip hip hooray!

    I heart Jews.

  27. Hello on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 2:43 pm 

    It needs no discussion. Clog is surely correct in this point:
    The world is made and shaped my europeans.

    Opening my trusted physics handbook shows european names, only. Volt, Ampere, Newton, Watt, …… to no end.

    Hell, even the metric and imperial measurement systems are european.

    Did negros ever invent something of value? Not likely, they still are struggeling with wearing the pants at waist level.

  28. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 2:54 pm 

    All of them are accomplished and yo are NOT.

    They are all Marxist trash, Furthermore, you know nothing about me. And you told me you were in jail, sold car parts. How accomplished is that?

    When you’re in heaven and you are looking down on the world and it’s still run by Jews, won’t that actually be hell?

    Really? You lost the USSR 80 year ago. And the US… well the US:

    Look like you lost that too, although it has not yet been really decided upon.

    There is not going to be a second American Century and hence there is not going to be a second Jewish Century. The 20th century was your first and your last:

    Now comes the Great Karma Audit.

  29. Davy on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 4:40 pm 

    This is not going to be a Paris Berlin Moscow 1000 year Reich either.

  30. Cloggie on Wed, 23rd Aug 2017 5:42 pm 

    That’s correct. Not 1000 years.

  31. Cloggie on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 3:23 am 

    Globalist press in Europe prepares public for impeachment president Trump:

    “Lonely, angry and very dangerous”

    Implicit message: he is a danger to us all and needs to be removed

    “Qatar sends ambassador to Iran”

    Is seen as “provocation” to KSA.

    “If there is a terrorist attack I go offline”

    Prominent Spiegel multicult columnist admits that he can’t stand the avalanche of (right-wing) hatred that is generated (against him) every time there is yet another Islamist attack and goes in offline hiding.

    On Neptune it rains diamonds.

    Even after software updates, diesel cars are too dirty. After Stuttgart, bans could be implemented in 70 other German cities.

  32. Cloggie on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 6:15 am 

    UN globalists gives early warning for the US civil conflict, just like they did earlier for Burundi, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria:

    In a decision issued under its ‘early warning and urgent action’ procedure, the Committee, which monitors implementation of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, stated “there should be no place in the world for racist white supremacist ideas or any similar ideologies that reject the core human rights principles of human dignity and equality.”

    The stinking communists of 42nd street have decided that the US belongs to everybody, not to “whites”. They are right as far as NYC is concerned, just give it away for free to Israel, so these clowns from Palestine have a fallback scenario when Palestine will become neo-Ottoman.

    At the impending end of the US empire, the UN, a post-1945 tool of US power, needs to be closed down and in a new form resurrected in say Astana, Kazachstan, halfway Greater Europe and China, along the New Silk Road.

    Kazachstan is former (?) Russian sphere of influence, so a little European, the people look a little Asian…

    … and the religion is majority Muslim (70%) of the moderate variety. Never heard of a Kazach suicide bomber.

    And Astana is not a third world embarrassment…

    It could be the ideal seat of a round table club for the coming multi-polar world order of “Great Civilizations” a la Samuel Huntington.

    Bye-bye George Soros and his commie UN.

  33. Davy on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 7:25 am 

    “Globalist press in Europe prepares public for impeachment president Trump:”

    Cloggie, this is an alternative view. This is the other side view that lefties will not read because it might make them go blind. I am making a disclaimer so the ravenous lefties here don’t accuse me of supporting Trump. I am liberal leaning but disgusted with the current state of affairs on both sides I am against both sides because I am a doomer and I am not a science denier. Lefties deny science too by being fake green. Trump is a science denier. He is also a rich asshole which I despise also. I do like how he has the corrupt and dangerous left in an uproar. That is it…lefties. Clean up your dirty laundry and I will come home.

    “Trump’s Sting Against Deep State Almost Complete”

    “What if I were to tell you that I believe we are on the verge of witnessing the unfurling of the greatest sting operation in the history of our country?”

    “You want to know about the long game that Trump is playing. To get the answer, you first you need to ask the following questions: Why is the left going absolutely insane about one unfortunate woman in Charlottesville? Why is Nancy Pelosi pushing to formally censure the president for his simple, commonsensical, and decidedly uncontroversial rebuke of all the bad actors involved? Why is the media pushing this story 24/7 while Russia got dropped like a hot potato? Why are the MSM and most of the Democratic Party egging on Antifa? Why did a Missouri State Senator openly state on Facebook that she wishes for an assassination of Trump? Why are web hosting services kicking alt-right websites off their servers? Why are conservatives on Patreon and YouTube getting both demonized and demonitized? Why is the First Amendment being targeted BECAUSE OF ONE NEO-NAZI ASSHOLE?”

    “Because the Deep State are scared absolutely shitless and they are emptying the last chambers of their political revolver. They know what awaits them in the future. They need to bring about 1984 soon or lose power forevermore. Or worse. They fear the awakening populace. It is coup time or noose time; they are attempting to rile up the useful idiots of both ideological extremes with paranoia and disinformation in one massive play of identity politics to help undermine the duly-elected leader of the United States – the man who kept them from a total victory. And that leader has all the dirt on them now. The Swamp knows it too:”

    “They know Imran Awan is the loose thread that unravels everything and he’s probably already turned state’s evidence to the Trump DOJ. They know what was in that report that Devin Nunes gave to Trump. They know why Dianne Feinstein was so ashen-faced and upset. They know Robert Mueller is likely investigating the Democrats instead of the alleged Russian collusion in the Administration. They know Hillary Clinton will be indicted soon, with all the corruption of the Foundation implicating half the Deep State. They know Julian Assange didn’t meet with Dana Rohrabacher to discuss Vegemite recipes. They know Seth Rich was a leaker. They know why Donald Trump has surrounded himself with military generals. They know Bannon is more useful being the scourge of globalists at Breitbart now that he’s purged the bad seeds in the intel agencies. They know Antifa is now under surveillance and will likely soon be declared a domestic terrorist organization.”

  34. Davy on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 7:55 am 

    Here you go cloggie some Jew h’ordeuvres for you to get you started.

    “Netanyahu To Putin: Iran Must Leave Syria Or “We Will Act”

    “But it appears Benjamin Netanyahu didn’t get the memo. On Wednesday the Israeli Prime Minister told Russian President Putin that Israel would not tolerate an Iranian presence in Syria and further signaled willingness to go to war in Syria to curtail Iranian influence. “Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon,” Netanyahu told Putin, adding further that, “We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel. Israel opposes Iran’s continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat.”

    “Netanyahu’s reference to “the Sunni sphere” came after he summarized the closed door part of the discussion as dealing with “Iran’s attempt to establish a foothold in Syria in the places where ISIS was defeated and is leaving.” Netanyahu’s comments are a reflection of an extremely disturbing view which has become so prominent within Israeli defense circles as to be considered establishment: that ISIS is ultimately preferable to Iran and Assad. This is to say that continued ISIS presence in Syria and Iraq is a viable option and possibly better than pro-Iranian or even Russian spheres of influence in the Israeli prime minister’s mind. Of course, this “lesser evil is ISIS” view is nothing new. In Israel, for example, there are even “respected” think tanks tied in with major public universities which openly call for allowing ISIS to thrive in Syria.”

    “The Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies, for example, which is one of Israel’s most internationally visible and influential think tanks (and located on the campus of Israel’s second largest university), published a policy paper last year which made a direct appeal to Israel’s Western partners with the unambiguous message contained in the essay’s title: “The Destruction of Islamic State is a Strategic Mistake.” Author and Director of the Begin-Sadat Centre, Efraim Inbar, argued against a Western military campaign to destroy ISIS while envisioning the group as an effective tool in sowing terror and chaos in Iran and Syria, with the added benefit of keeping Russia bogged down in defense of the Assad government. Inbar spelled this out clearly:”

  35. Cloggie on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 7:59 am

    The last convulsions of the US empire. Trump was probably sincere when he advocated good relations with Russia during the campaign.

    But it is obvious now that the deep state war party is in control again after “Bannon the Barbarian” was flushed from the WH due to the sinister intrigues by the (((Ivanka and Jared))) Rasputins.

    Warmonger “mad dog” Mattis is in Kiev to support coup-prez (((Petroshenko))) and Mattis publicly accused Putin of wanting to “change the map of Europe”.

    The reality is that the US deep state changed the map of Europe by organizing a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and drawing that country (minus Donbass and Crimea) into the western sphere of influence. The Russian annexation of Crimea was a reactive act with the aim not to lose its most important warm water port and democratically sealed by this referendum, the outcome of which nobody doubts, because Crimea always has been Russian.

    The MIC is back in business and perhaps Trump is allowed to build a few miles of his wall to appease his electorate, until Trump will be booted out in 2020 at the latest by (((Captain Faceberg))), promising universal healthcare and basic income for all, to be paid for by stoopid whitey. And boy, will that stimulate black electoral participation for a change.

  36. Cloggie on Thu, 24th Aug 2017 11:06 am

    Today another embarrassing moment for Merkel during her election campaign.

    The West is coming down and that’s OK.

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