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Kunstler: Another Mighty Conundrum

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The sanctuary city movement, and all its baggage, terminates in one troublesome idea: that the USA should have open borders and that anyone from a foreign land who manages to get here by whatever means is home-free-all. The most recent Democratic nominee for president said just the other day that she dreamed of open borders. The much-abused word dream has been at the center of our discourse about immigration, a purposefully sentimental manipulation of language for a culture struggling to ascertain the boundaries of reality in an era of universal wishful thinking.

Anyone who listens to National Public Radio, for instance, may notice the care they take to keep the boundary as fuzzy as possible vis-à-vis the status of people here from other lands. “Undocumented” has been the favorite trope, a dodge that implies that the people in question are victims of a clerical error — someone over in the Document Division forgot to hand them the right paperwork. Or else they are all simply labeled “immigrants,” leaving out the question of whether they are in the country legally or not. Do not suppose it is mere sloppiness.

Lately, there is the matter of census-takers asking the people they interview — theoretically everybody who resides in the US — whether they are citizens or not. It would seem to be within the legitimate interests of demographic statisticians to ask that question, but it has ignited a firestorm of opposition. All manner of casuistry has been applied by that opposition to rationalize why we wouldn’t want to know whether people here are citizens or not. It all seems to come down to a cynical political calculation that the voter rolls can be eventually padded in favor of the Democratic Party (of which I remain an unhappy registered member, in order to vote in the New York state primary election).

The sanctuary city movement seems to me the most mendacious element of the story, a nakedly emotional appeal against the rule of law. The attorney general of California, Xavier Becerra, lately threatened to fine corporations there that share employee information with federal agents. There has not been such arrant flouting of federal law by state officials since Governor George Wallace stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama crying “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” in June, 1963 — and we all know how that ended.

I’m among those who would like to see the immigration laws honestly enforced. In fact, I would also like to see the 1965 immigration law reformed to admit far fewer people from any land into this country. We have economic and cultural interests to protect, and they would seem to be self-evident.

So why has there been no move by the federal authorities to impose sovereign federal law over figures like Mr. Becerra, or Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, who went through the barrio there Paul Revere style warning that the ICE agents were coming? Well, one big reason is the marijuana situation. Nine states have legalized cannabis for recreational use (i.e. for getting high), and 29 have legalized it for medical purposes. This includes all of the states on the “Left Coast.” All of them are flouting federal law in doing that. But imagine the political uproar if the feds tried to step in at this point and quash the cannabis trade. In the early adapters, like Colorado, California, and Washington State, the trade has blossomed into multi-million dollar corporate enterprise, with significant tax revenue.

So, much as I object to the dishonest practices around immigration, I don’t see how the federal government can take principled action against them without first addressing its attitude to the marijuana situation. Of course, that could be easily disposed of by congress adopting a simple law to the effect that the cultivation and sale of cannabis shall be regulated by the states. The craven members of congress apparently don’t even dare to raise the issue of resolving this conundrum, and the thought may have never even entered the mighty golden brain-pan of our president — not to mention The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, Fox-News, or any of the other media organs of public debate. Well, maybe the time has come for that discussion.

Kunstler



129 Comments on "Kunstler: Another Mighty Conundrum"

  1. Anonymouse1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:49 am 

    The only bipolar around here, would be you exceptionalist. If you want to go multipolar, then create a 3rd sock to help you with your ranting and raving at Greg and Mak.

  2. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 2:17 am 

    weasel, Mission accomplished. LOL, I love upsetting stupid Canadian anti-Americans. Not many left just you and slimy. The rest have folded. It won’t be long and you will be gone. You are already irrelevant because you struggle to say anything. Pricking is easy, saying something is another animal.

  3. makati1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 2:24 am 

    Sorry Davy but the Asian part of the world is growing, not shrinking like the Us. America is going down the shitter faster and faster every day. Proof? Look at who is president. He is so far below norm that there is not even a way to measure it. I think he was allowed to win so that he could finish the Great Leveling.

    Look at American youth:

    Snowflakes.
    Drugged up.
    Obese.
    Uneducated.
    Distracted.
    Immature.
    Brainwashed.

    Look at yourself Davy:

    Delusional.
    Immoral.
    Immature.
    Arrogant.
    Uneducated.
    Brainwashed.
    Perfect examples of why the Us is self destructing from within.

  4. makati1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 2:27 am 

    For the safety of your neighbors, Davy, the Us should put you in a place where you cannot hurt anyone. I see you ‘going postal’ when the SHTF. I’m glad I am not your neighbor.

  5. Cloggie on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 2:52 am 

    Europe’s Biggest Natural Gas Producer Is Running Out of Fuel

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-16/europe-s-biggest-natural-gas-producer-is-running-out-of-fuel

    As I already pointed out to you earlier, we have a solid replacement for the Slochteren gas field, once the #9 in the world and that is the North Sea as the new energy province, that is bigger than the country itself:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/01/07/gold-mine-north-sea/

    Nice shallow water with excellent average wind speeds of 10 m/s.

    Holland (and Denmark and Germany) could become the Saudi-Arabia of renewable electricity/hydrogen for the rest of the EU.

    Whats your country going to export without natural gas? Nobody is going to want your stupid wooden shoes! LOL Your economy is a one trick pony. Take away the natural resources and you will be no better than Pakistan.

    You’re an idiot. Holland is the center of global IT-hardware. Without ASML technology, third rate losers like Intel, AMD, Apple, Samsung, HP and what have you, would not be able to produce a single chip. Think about that. Furthermore tiny Holland (17m, 44k km2) has an agrarian export not that far behind “giant” USA (330m, 10m km2):

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-american-food-giant-the-largest-exporter-of-food-in-the-world.html

    Than there are Shell, Unilever, Philips, AKZO-Nobel.

    Holland plays a major role in setting up the coming offshore wind infrastructure, based on its unique maritime tradition, originating from a time when Holland had 3 times more ships than the rest of the world combined:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9PykR5bHo

    Holland is the #1 transporter in Europe. Go to Romania and you will still see ships carrying the Dutch flag on the Danube.

    In the 17th century, Holland was the #1 in the world…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20160612_nothing.jpg

    …thanks to gearing down Christianity from 7 to 1 days a week, capitalism and… to wind energy. We won’t be the #1 ever again, but we will always remain top of the bill in Europe and hence in the world.

    https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2016/50/netherlands-largest-net-contributor-eu-this-century

    You can stick your Pakistan in your kosher ass.

  6. Cloggie on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 3:39 am 

    The Bliar wants Merkel to do everything in her power to keep Britain in the EU:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5588905/Blair-wants-Germany-possible-Britain-EU.html

    Like how, sending the Wehrmacht?!

    Forget it TonyBaloney, you’re out. You were never Europe anyway, but Anglosphere:

    https://www.amazon.com/History-English-Speaking-Peoples-One-Abridgement/dp/1616082402/ref=sr_1_1

    It was you and your handler (((Peter Mandelson))) who gave away London to Islam:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10055613/Labour-sent-out-search-parties-for-immigrants-Lord-Mandelson-admits.html

    After Sweden you are the 2nd most political correct country in Europe and as such a nail in the coffin of European civilization. Bye-bye und auf niemals Wiedersehen. Russia is FAR more interesting than Britain, mostly because of its military and the fact that it was only 10 years part of the US empire (1991-2000) and is now able to defeat the empire in Syria and perhaps soon in Iran, together with China. And Turkey.

  7. deadly on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 5:17 am 

    If you are an unhappy Democrat, always will be and always have been, then stop being an unhappy stupid Democrat. It ain’t worth it in this world anymore. Just stop being an unhappy Democrat. The beatings will continue until the morale improves.

    Get a freaking life, ya freakin’ dummy.

    The America I once knew is no longer there and it is greatly missed.

    A stake must be driven through the hearts of the Republicans and the Democrats.

    America must rid of them. They’re the worst news ever.

    Have a nice day and another hard day on the planet.

    It’s after 5, time to start drinking.

    It’s deja vu all over again.

  8. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:12 am 

    “Sorry Davy but the Asian part of the world is growing, not shrinking like the Us. America is going down the shitter faster and faster every day.”

    Sure billy 3rd world and all those people are not a problem? What about the destroyed environment? What about the ghost cities? Your a growing cancer and lol, you think that is great.

  9. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:13 am 

    “For the safety of your neighbors, Davy, the Us should put you in a place where you cannot hurt anyone. I see you ‘going postal’ when the SHTF. I’m glad I am not your neighbor.”

    Translation: Davy is getting the upper hand because I am looking stupid.

  10. Anonymouse1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:18 am 

    Translation: Davy is looking stupid.

  11. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:21 am 

    weasel, come on the ass kicken I gave you was not that severe. Man up and say something. Show that you are capable of intelligent debate. Your pricking just reflects poorly on your Stupid Canada. Canada, where pricks stand tall.

  12. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:27 am 

    “Holland (and Denmark and Germany) could become the Saudi-Arabia of renewable electricity/hydrogen for the rest of the EU.”
    Key word is “COULD” then “IF AFFORDABLE”

    Furthermore tiny Holland (17m, 44k km2) has an agrarian export not that far behind “giant” USA (330m, 10m km2):”
    “Exports” are a big difference from total production.

    “You can stick your Pakistan in your kosher ass.”
    Calm down neder

  13. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:31 am 

    Clog and Madkat

    The world is going to run out of oil real soon and it will cause a global collapse.

    https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa

  14. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:33 am 

    “Russia is FAR more interesting than Britain, mostly because of its military and the fact that it was only 10 years part of the US empire (1991-2000) and is now able to defeat the empire in Syria and perhaps soon in Iran, together with China. And Turkey.”

    Russia will have you for dinner and you will be so surprised as you are dismembered. The US Empire is taking care of itself. It will decline enough that other multipolar powers will gain some breathing room. These cold wars cycle and soon maybe we may have a more stable world order. I am not saying conflict is over just that these macro world events do go in cycles. Let’s hope saner heads will move to the front of the line. There is no future empires in the making. The world has become too small and too prone to decay. It will take everything we humans got to keep from losing everything in a collapse.

  15. Cloggie on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:34 am 

    Key word is “COULD” then “IF AFFORDABLE”

    Actually it IS affordable. No public money necessary anymore. Offshore wind already jostled fossil:

    https://www.offshorewind.biz/2018/03/19/vattenfall-wins-dutch-zero-subsidy-offshore-wind-tender/

    The transition in NW-Europe will be accomplished from now on with market forces alone. And if peak conventional oil will really begin to bite, expect a run on offshore wind and solar panels once barrel prices will hoover around $140 or higher again.

    “Exports” are a big difference from total production.

    Nobody says otherwise. But the millifool claimed that Holland has nothing but natural gas. He needed to be disciplined.

  16. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:36 am 

    Clogg

    Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/

    Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
    https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf

    UC Davis Peer Reviewed Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q

    University of Chicago Peer Reviewed Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117

    Shortage of resources for renewable energy and food production (Rhodes 2011)
    https://www.scribd.com/document/375501088/Shortage-of-resources-for-renewable-energy-and-food-production-Rhodes-2011

    Top scientists show why powering US using 100 percent renewable energy is a delusional fantasy
    http://energyskeptic.com/2017/big-fight-21-top-scientists-show-why-jacobson-and-delucchis-renewable-scheme-is-a-delusional-fantasy/

    At this rate, it’s going to take nearly 400 years to transform the energy system
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610457/at-this-rate-its-going-to-take-nearly-400-years-to-transform-the-energy-system/

    Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/

    The Curse of Energy Efficiency
    https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/02/26/Energy-Efficiency-Curse/

    IEA Sees No Peak Oil Demand ‘Any Time Soon’
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-sees-no-peak-oil-demand-any-time-soon-1488816002

    Bill Gates: We need global ‘energy miracles’
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/12/bill.gates.clean.energy/index.html

  17. makati1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:39 am 

    Must be frustrating to be defending a lost cause like America in decline.

    “America Is in Warp-Speed Decline—It’s Way Bigger Than Trump”

    https://www.alternet.org/world/making-america-mediocre-warpspeed-decline

    “Noam Chomsky: America is an empire in decline”

    https://www.salon.com/2016/05/10/noam_chomksy_america_is_a_state_in_decline_partner/

    “Trump Has a Point About American Decline”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-03-03/donald-trump-has-a-point-about-american-decline

    “12 signs America is on the decline”

    http://fortune.com/2015/07/20/united-states-decline-statistics-economic/

    “The Future: China’s Rise, America’s Decline”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/03/26/the-future-chinas-rise-americas-decline/

    Nuff said.

  18. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:41 am 

    “Actually it IS affordable. No public money necessary anymore. Offshore wind already jostled fossil:”
    Neder, it cost money to put up these wind parks and there is more to it than just the wind. We are talking the vehicle stock and infrastructure for the hydrogen. Surely you don’t think that is free do you? The issue is then is it economical to have a hydrogen economy?

    “The transition in NW-Europe will be accomplished from now on with market forces alone. And if peak conventional oil will really begin to bite, expect a run on offshore wind and solar panels once barrel prices will hoover around $140 or higher again.”
    If the economy holds and that is a big “if” then maybe you can. Again the word is maybe because the real costs come when the penetration goes above 40%. Wind and solar is only around 7% in the EU now. So as usual you are talking a fantasy future of maybes.

    Nobody says otherwise. But the millifool claimed that Holland has nothing but natural gas. He needed to be disciplined.
    Damn, we have some agreement going on neder.

  19. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:44 am 

    “Must be frustrating to be defending a lost cause like America in decline.”

    Billy 3rd world it is easy to cherry pick decline stories but the funny thing is you never pick them for your Asia. Is there a reason for that? Could it be you’re an extremist with an agenda? Besides when you put down these links please fill in the blanks with their point otherwise they are empty. Empty links are a sure sign of agenda and laziness. Is that nuff?

  20. Cloggie on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:49 am 

    Russia will have you for dinner and you will be so surprised as you are dismembered.

    Typical Washington fear-mongering and stupid attempt to make the US look indispensable.lol That is so utterly ridiculous. Russia has 140 million, EU 500 million or 440 million after Britain will leave. Russia has $4T GDP, EU $20T. The EU spends twice as much on defense as Russia. Russia is afraid of China and seeks compensation in Europe. Russia is not the enemy, (((Washington))) is. The European Right is ready for Russia and Russia is ready for a merger with Europe.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/paris-berlin-moscow/

    But we can’t make our move now, because if we do, we drive Washington into the arms of China, as your (((owners))) already announced they are aiming for:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/wallerstein-on-european-american-relations/

    …because it would be a winning coalition. Note that (((Wallerstein))) anticipates Paris-Berlin-Moscow.

    So we in Europe need to keep our powder dry and wait for Washington to blink first and get it embroiled in a war with China, possibly over Iran and as such exclude the possibility of a last-minute US-Chinese alliance, similar to the one your owners had with the USSR between 1933-1946.

    Therefore we need to place nice to Washington and anticipate a European-American uprising in order to prevent them from becoming a minority after Trump. Once that uprising is a fact we in Europe can help drive a wedge between the insurgents and Washington (and people like you), 1776-style.

    Summary: PBM can only materialize in either of the cases:

    1. war China-US
    2. serious uprising European-America (“Constitutionalists”)

    Until that moment arrives we “lazy Europeans” should eat cheese, drink wine, let populism grow and install offshore wind turbines.

    Questions?

  21. makati1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:52 am 

    MM, the world has already run out of “affordable” oil. The world wide change will be gradual, not sudden. But, the collapse of the Us could happen rather fast due to the huge economy built on, and supported by, debt. Don’t be surprised if the actions of the Federal Reserve cause the collapse of America. It is all in the Great Leveling plan book. The serfs are about bleed dry. Can’t be long now.

    BTW: the goal is about $10,000 per capita per year, world average. How far do you have to fall to attain that level?

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNP.PCAP.CD

    The Ps has room to grow, as they are doing at the rate of 6% per year.

  22. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:54 am 

    “Typical Washington fear-mongering and stupid attempt to make the US look indispensable.lol “
    Nope just respect for history

    “That is so utterly ridiculous. Russia has 140 million, EU 500 million or 440 million after Britain will leave. Russia has $4T GDP, EU $20T. The EU spends twice as much on defense as Russia. “
    Russia has a real army and the EU a paper one.

    But we can’t make our move now, because if we do, we drive Washington into the arms of China, as your (((owners))) already announced they are aiming for:
    Nonsense

    “So we in Europe need to keep our powder dry and wait for Washington to blink first and get it embroiled in a war with China, possibly over Iran and as such exclude the possibility of a last-minute US-Chinese alliance, similar to the one your owners had with the USSR between 1933-1946.”
    More nonsense that you copy and paste word for word weekly. Is this something you recite like a prayer in the morning?

    “Therefore we need to place nice to Washington and anticipate a European-American uprising in order to prevent them from becoming a minority after Trump. Once that uprising is a fact we in Europe can help drive a wedge between the insurgents and Washington (and people like you), 1776-style.”
    More nonsense that you copy and paste word for word weekly. Is this something you recite like a prayer in the morning?

  23. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 6:58 am 

    “But, the collapse of the Us could happen rather fast due to the huge economy built on, and supported by, debt. “
    Billy 3rd world if you knew more about economics then you would know that so is about every country in the world that matters. You would understand the interconnectedness of it all and see even the countries like yours that don’t matter are in the same danger of collapse. What is worse for you is the food dangers of 100MIL people in a small place.

    “Don’t be surprised if the actions of the Federal Reserve cause the collapse of America. It is all in the Great Leveling plan book. “
    Conspiracy nonsense

  24. Cloggie on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 7:02 am 

    Neder, it cost money to put up these wind parks and there is more to it than just the wind. We are talking the vehicle stock and infrastructure for the hydrogen. Surely you don’t think that is free do you? The issue is then is it economical to have a hydrogen economy?

    In 10 years we’ll have robo-cars, creating a vast cost reduction per traveled kilometer, because…

    1. the same car will be utilized much more
    2. you can share the same vehicle with 7 or so others

    In other words, it doesn’t matter if hydrogen is a little more expensive than old school gasoline. The cost per kilometer will be vastly reduced anyway.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/12/24/building-a-hydrogen-refueling-station-in-48-hours-time-lapse/

    The renewable energy transition and autonomous car will go hand in hand.

    The real victim will be the global car industry.

    Mercedes-Benz never had a better year than 2017…

    http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko/Mercedes-Benz-makes-best-ever-start-to-a-year-with-more-than-193000-vehicles-sold.xhtml?oid=33189110

    …yet their shareholders-meeting was gloomy, because they know that their business model is expiring, thanks to the rise of the robocar, causing car manufacturing mega-death:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/16/by-2030-you-wont-own-a-car/

    The same 1 billion global car fleet can be replaced by 50-100 million cars/vans and still deliver the same door-to-door transportation effort.

    Bye-bye Daimler, Ford, Nissan, Peugeot!

  25. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 7:27 am 

    Madkat

    China’s debt is also exploding. Global debt is exploding everywhere. its going to cause cascading defaults. No offense but when you get older your cognitive mental capabilities decline rapidly. And I don’t think you have a very good grasp on this issue. I think you are seeing it the way you want to see it through rose colored glasses.

  26. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 7:30 am 

    Clogg has to create his own blog to convince himself of what he wants to believe (doublethink)…Which he has to block all comments on as well…How laughable.

  27. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 7:31 am 

    “In 10 years we’ll have robo-cars, creating a vast cost reduction per traveled kilometer, because…1. the same car will be utilized much more 2. you can share the same vehicle with 7 or so others”
    Just talk now because 10 years is a lifetime in this day and age with all the dangers ahead. Why not stay focused on the here and now.

    “In other words, it doesn’t matter if hydrogen is a little more expensive than old school gasoline. The cost per kilometer will be vastly reduced anyway.”
    A “lot” more expensive is more like it without a huge infrastructure built out that must be paid for.

    “The renewable energy transition and autonomous car will go hand in hand. The real victim will be the global car industry.”
    Who says?

    “The same 1 billion global car fleet can be replaced by 50-100 million cars/vans and still deliver the same door-to-door transportation effort.”
    dreamer

  28. GregT on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 10:32 am 

    “The world is going to run out of oil real soon and it will cause a global collapse.”

    You’re far too optimistic MM. The world has a shit ton of fossil fuels left, and in all likelihood will continue to burn them, causing a catastrophic runaway greenhouse event.

  29. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 11:12 am 

    U.S. Homeland Security to compile database of journalists, bloggers and ‘media influencers’

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/homeland-security-to-compile-database-of-journalists-and-media-influencers/

    So they are making a list and checking it twice, using it to detain or kill who’s naughty or nice.

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