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Key differences remain in Iran nuclear talks

U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY, SAYING: “Well I think it’s fair to say that we are hopeful. We have a lot of hard work to do. There are some very tough issues.” Disagreements remain between top U.S., European and Iranian diplomats… as they hammer out a deal to curb Iran’s nuclear program. But talks in Vienna must go on, as a self-imposed June 30 deadline looms. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius says Western powers want a robust deal that recognizes Iran’s right to civilian nuclear power, yet guarantees Iran give up any nuclear weapons capability. (SOUNDBITE) (French) FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTER, LAURENT FABIUS, SAYING: “For this, we think there are at least three essential conditions: the first is a lasting limit on Iran’s research and development capacity. The second condition is a rigorous inspection of sites, including military if needed, and the third condition is the automatic return of sanctions if it violates its commitments. These three conditions respect Iran’s sovereignty.” Tehran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. And Iranian Foreign Minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, is pressing for sanctions on his country to be removed immediately. But the pace and timing of sanctions relief are among the biggest sticking points in the talks. U.S. and European negotiators also want to ensure there is a mechanism for restoring those sanctions if Tehran fails to meet its end of the bargain.

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13 Comments on "Key differences remain in Iran nuclear talks"

  1. Plantagenet on Sat, 27th Jun 2015 6:57 pm 

    Who believes that Kerry and obama won’t cave in on every point to the Iranians? You know things are going badly when its the French who are taking a “tough” line with the Iranians, while Obama and Kerry pander and grovel.

  2. Poordogabone on Sat, 27th Jun 2015 8:14 pm 

    Pretend to talk tough for the public consumption. Behind closed doors a deal is made without the stupid noise.

    “the first [condition] is a lasting limit on Iran’s research and development capacity.”
    “These […] respect Iran’s sovereignty.”
    I love the contradiction between those 2 statements. Obviously the fact that the Iranians did not walk out proves that that first condition is just vague and carries no bite. You don’t tell a sovereign country to limit research.

  3. Apneaman on Sat, 27th Jun 2015 8:39 pm 

    The Odd American View of Negotiation

    “One of the unfortunate corollaries of American exceptionalism is a warped and highly asymmetric conception of negotiation. This conception can become a major impediment to the effective exercise of U.S. diplomacy. Although the attitudes that are part of this view of negotiation are not altogether unique to the United States, they are especially associated with American exceptionalist thinking about the supposed intrinsic superiority of U.S. positions and about how the sole superpower ought always to get its way.”

    “”This is markedly different from the rest of the world’s conception of negotiation, in which each side begins with positions that neither side will get or expects to get entirely, followed by a process of give-and-take and mutual concession to arrive at a compromise that meets the needs of each side enough that it is better for each than no agreement at all.

    “The proper response to such statements is: yes, the United States has been making concessions, and the Iranians have been making even more—that’s called negotiating.”

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/the-odd-american-view-negotiation-13159

  4. Makati1 on Sat, 27th Jun 2015 9:24 pm 

    The US Corporations are salivating … and a few seem to already know the outcome and are moving forward in commercial negotiations. Interesting.

    As for US diplomacy. There is none as is evidenced by the State Department reps over the last 15-20 years. Mafia ‘diplomacy’ at gun point is all the US knows. The lesson it is going to be taught soon, by the rest of the world, will be painful to all Americans.

  5. Boat on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 9:20 am 

    Mafia ‘diplomacy’ at gun point is all the US knows. The lesson it is going to be taught soon, by the rest of the world

    As it should be. It’s quite clear the world needs a US moderator to hold the peace after WWI and WWII. There should be a world tax though. The US citizen shouldn’t have to pay to keep the world on course.

  6. BobInget on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 9:31 am 

    Unless Iran gets assurances of a Russian nuclear umbrella, Iran won’t cave.

    For more then ten years Israel and to lesser extent the US have threatened bombing Iran with unconventional weapons, ostensibly required to penetrate deep into Iran’s underground infrastructure.

    Were the Soviet Union threatened so? China?
    India? Pakistan? N.Korea? White ruled S.Africa?
    Were there sanctions leveled on the aforementioned? On NK, none other.

    Late as April this year:
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/israeli-military-option-against-iran-possible-despite-nuclear-deal-1.3022374

    With Iran the only Muslim nation to support ‘boots on the ground’ fighting IS in Iraq and Syria.
    Oh, BTW where are the daunted forces of Israel and their new BF’s Saudi Arabia in Iraq’s battle against IS?

    Reading to bomb Iran, that’s where.

    The Saudis have been bombing Yemen three months for tossing out a Saudi Puppet President.
    Gulf States, Kuwait and KSA helped by the US, bomb the crap out of Yemen while not lifting a finger to help Iraq and Iran go after IS
    on the Ground.

    All this is not lost on Iranian diplomats.

    American or Canadian, how many days, not months or years would YOU tolerate threats of bombing for ANY behavior found to be intolerable by any foreign power?

    The same foreign power that killed off you first democratically elected president permitting fundamentalist Islamic hard liners to power.

    Iran’s history of a thousand years of diplomacy is winning. Shortly we witness the new OPEC headed up by Russia, Iran and Iraq. For that, lets give Israel and the US full deserved credit.

  7. joe on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 10:21 am 

    Well spotted bob. The US hates democracy. Look at greece, they rejected the imf and ecb offers which seek to undermine strong national government and cede power to larger bodies, just as happened in the US civil war (please don’t spark a history lesson). Given that Iran can’t naturally Federalise into any general ethnic body it is standing alone, the US stepped in and had great success in Iran as it was able to isolate it and control by removing democracy and therefore strong popular leadership which does things like have referendums to decide if they want an austerity linked bailout. See the banksters see all money as ultimately THEIR money, so they don’t want stupid things like national governments deciding what to do. You can’t globalise and manage (and get rich from) a world economy made up of hundreds of independent units, they need to act in unity, see? Extremism serves to help isolate regions which are acting independently while you think up a plan (decades long and very subtle ) to deal with it. Iran though has not stayed in its bubble the way say Vietnam did or North Korea is, that’s the problem, the US is making the same errors all other empires ever did in the middle east and the Arabs and Persian and everyone else sees them for what they are.

  8. Davy on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 10:53 am 

    Come on Joe what is this puke? “The US hates democracy. Look at greece, they rejected the imf and ecb offers which seek to undermine strong national government and cede power to larger bodies, just as happened in the US civil war (please don’t spark a history lesson)” Joe, if you are going to be a geopolitical expert on the board show a little sophistication that was juvenile.

  9. Apneaman on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 11:47 am 

    The US/global elites, governments, MIC, banking cartel hate democracy. They just spent the last 35 years effectively usurping it. These French Taxi drivers have shown that the only way to protect what little the common man has left is to speak the only language TPTB understand. It’s the same language that gave the common man a slice of the pie in the first place. That’s another thing TPTB have done to great effect – write out the labour struggles of the late 19th and early to mid 20th century. Lots of forgotten spilled blood and sacrifice.

    France’s Taxi Unions Threaten Huge Strike Unless Uber Crackdown Happens

    http://skift.com/2015/06/20/frances-taxi-unions-threaten-huge-strike-unless-uber-crackdown-happens/

    Not that things can ever go back to the way they used to be, but I think a case can be made that western countries were better off before labour, trade and professional unions and associations were all but dismantled. The money is going to go to someone – tens of millions of well paid middle class worker bees or the 1%. Decide for yourself which version, former or latter, you like best.

    Where the American Dream is now a nightmare
    San Bernardino, Calif., once a solidly middle-class city, has become a disturbing distillation of America’s urban woes.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/06/28/where-the-american-dream-is-now-a-nightmare.html

    Americans worked even longer hours last year

    http://fortune.com/2015/06/24/work-hours/?xid=gn_editorspicks&google_editors_picks=true

    Americans are delaying major life events because of money worries

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102791525

    Twice as many Americans now forced to delay marriage, college, kids

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/twice-as-many-americans-now-forced-to-delay-marriage-college-kids-2015-06-25

  10. BobInget on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 12:46 pm 

    Talks extended July 9th.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/06/28/iran-nuclear-talks-enter-final-phase-48-hours-until-deadline

    (they have been talking since the Bush Administration)

    I’m guessing new play dates will be set.
    “Talk talk better then war war”.

    While I’m guessing, if full scale hot war on IS breaks, everyone but Israel and KSA can forget about talks.
    By not precipitating in the war of Islamic States, Israel and Saudi Arabia lose brand approval in the West but gain authority among Islamic Arab nations.

    The idea of not removing sanctions during an oil crisis becomes moot.

  11. Apneaman on Sun, 28th Jun 2015 6:30 pm 

    My new hero. LMAO

    Top German Politician Blasts Nuland & Carter: “F##k US Imperialism”

    Oskar Lafontaine is a major force in German politics so it caught people’s attention when he excoriated Ash Carter and Victoria Nuland on his Facebook page yesterday… “Nuland says ‘F*ck the EU’. We need need an EU foreign policy that stops warmongering US imperialism… F*ck US imperialism!”

    http://the-raw-story.blogspot.ca/2015/06/top-german-politician-blasts-nuland.html

  12. Apneaman on Mon, 29th Jun 2015 12:11 pm 

    We restarted the Cold War: The real story about the NATO buildup that the New York Times won’t tell you
    Our leaders and media push time-worn nonsense about American innocence, while taking aggressive moves. Look out

    http://www.salon.com/2015/06/25/we_restarted_the_cold_war_the_real_story_about_the_nato_buildup_that_the_new_york_times_wont_tell_you/

  13. Apneaman on Mon, 29th Jun 2015 2:05 pm 

    A New Wave of Terrorist Violence

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-new-wave-of-terrorist-violence?intcid=mod-yml

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