Is another Arab Spring brewing?

36 Comments on "Is another Arab Spring brewing?"

george on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 1:15 am 



send that idiot morris dees over there. he will make it all better.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 3:45 am 



The great American prophet Samuel Huntington was right (“Clash of Civilizations”) when he developed his world vision for the future, shortly after the collapse of the USSR:

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But the new geopolitical map he proposed…

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…probably won’t be entirely correct. At the end of his life Huntington realized that, when he wrote a book with the title “Who are we” (2005)…

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…where he warned that the consistency of the US would be in danger if mass-migration from third world countries would continue.

Today, a decade later, we have Trump as an expression of that fear. Also, Vladimir Putin has clearly expressed his desire to be part of the European world. We should let the Russians in. On top of that we have the seemingly unstoppable rise of China (1350 million, IQ100) that eventually will replace the US as the most powerful nation on earth and will require an adequate response from the European world world-wide.

All these considerations require a slight amendment of Huntington’s map:

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Dedicated to the magnificent work of Samuel Huntington. I discovered a German translation in ca. 2000 and spend hours reading it in the largest Munich bookshop Hugendubel and was electrified; this was it.

P.S.

There absolutely is not a spring brewing in North-America:

http://www.infowars.com/record-cold-coming-to-almost-entire-usa/

RECORD COLD COMING TO ‘ALMOST ENTIRE USA’
“Low temperature records set to be SHATTERED”

(Sorry for linking to deplorable sources.lol)

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 3:46 am 



Tried to post a text with 5 links for 10 times but didn’t succeed. Probably security measure against hackers.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

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http://www.net4you.com/jandlftp/clash-bild.jpg

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 3:46 am 



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https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-We-Challenges-Americas/dp/0684870541/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1

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https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 4:15 am 



The article represents typical western thinking that wants to recommend western industrialism (“jobs”) on the rest of the world as a model “to go forward”.

In a literal sense it won’t work. The Islamic world is absolutely unable to ever compete on world markets with European civilization or China, other than with resources they are accidentally sitting upon… and unfortunately for them are running out, to make things worse.

Muslims should focus on low-level production for local markets (dates, textile, cattle, building kashba’s and mosques).

What they could do to acquire foreign currency is use otherwise useless deserts to set up giant solar parks for energy production for global markets, like the largest solar park in the world in Morocco:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/04/morocco-to-switch-on-first-phase-of-worlds-largest-solar-plant

North-African countries could be integrated into a European super grid:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_super_grid

(Europe is already completely connected).

Boat on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 4:52 am 



The Middle East has massive amounts of youth unemployment. Yet they continue to breed at unsustainable rates. Countries spend their resources on security/conflict inside and out. Solution? Stop breeding.

Boat on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 5:09 am 



Connect the Middle East to the European grid? The typical European pays .26 per kW. The typical American pays .12 per kW. The Middle East would do well to have American companies set up their own grid. Ya think?

Davy on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 5:44 am 



The worst metrics at all levels is in the Middle East. It will not be an Arab spring it will be a “killing fields” from a die off. This social breakdown will come from climate change, economic collapse, and social disorder. There are far too many people with warped ideas in a desert. Yea, if you live in a desert you better not have too many people. If you have too many people you better not have warped ideas in those people’s heads. That is an equation for a die off plain and simple. Other areas have too many people and warped ideas of different kinds and they are in line but the Middle East is in the very front of the line. Too bad for globalism when this region implodes because oops there goes the bulk of the high quality oil left for industrial survival. Damn the bad luck.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 6:16 am 



Connect the Middle East to the European grid? The typical European pays .26 per kW. The typical American pays .12 per kW. The Middle East would do well to have American companies set up their own grid. Ya think?

The reason for the huge price difference is tax. Oil prices are world market prices and more or less equal for all. I don’t think Americans will be involved too much in North-Africa to set up large energy projects; they will be better off setting similar projects in SW-USA (Arizona & New Mexico).

The Arabs won’t abolish Allah. In fact all the signs are that they are going to embrace him more than ever before. Progressive modernity can very well be reversed. Shortly after the European decolonization most Arab countries embraced secular socialism (Baath). That is now all reversing. It began with the toppling of the Shah in Iran around 1980. Now Turkey is gradually turning away from Europe and positioning itself as the global leader of Islam (Ottoman Empire 2.0/Global Caliphate). The sudden rise of the extremely archaic Islamic State (the essentially return of the 7th century) is another very clear indicator that modernity is on the way out in these regions. IS will be (temporarily?) defeated by more “moderate” Islamists like KSA and Turkey. The Muslims shouldn’t abandon Allah. It is all they have got.

Yes, Marx was right: religion is opium for the masses, an opium that feels good and is not detrimental for your physical health. In fact, secular Europeans will find out that it is going to be a challenge to stave off nihilism in a society without a “religious story”. At some point we will need a (new?) religion/philosophy/explanation that will offer an alternative vision for the idea that the meaning of life consists of emptying the shelves at Walmart.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 6:52 am 



To illustrate the enormous potential of PV-solar, the red squares show the amount of desert required to generate electricity for Germany, EU and the world respectively:

http://tinyurl.com/h9dqd2n

If you want to replace all fossil fuel based energy generation with PV-solar (not just electricity, but also space heating and transport) you need an area like Spain.

In other words: potentially we have no long-term global energy problem. It is a matter of reprogramming our brains, break through endless vested interests of “old white guys populating the boards of oil companies” [*], political and investment choices and the using the tax tool to support these choices.

[*] – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9XBPeCb0Ew

Davy on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 7:01 am 



In other words: the world does not have the financial or political ability to eliminate the global energy problem. A whole host of problems and predicaments will make it difficult to maintain what we have let alone build out a fantasy energy transition.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 7:33 am 



In other words: the world does not have the financial or political ability to eliminate the global energy problem.

That is what you say. In Europe the political battle has almost been won. Renewables are the future and nobody doubts that.

And as they say at the Fed: money can be printed to pay the workers that need to do the job.

difficult to maintain what we have let alone build out a fantasy energy transition.

http://peakoil.com/generalideas/transition-in-ireland

– The British led the world into the age of coal driven steam engines. The 19th century was their century because of it.
– The Americans led the world into the age of oil and combustion engine, cars, etc. The 20th century was their century because of it.
– The Europeans will lead the world into the age of renewable energy. The 21st century will be etc., etc.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 7:43 am 



Energy in historic perspective:

Britain – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziwfHZhqQBM
USA – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHz-zZoBnbc
Europe – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9PykR5bHo

Sissyfuss on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 7:44 am 



To see the regions young people as a resource means having them for dinner. Not over for dinner but them being dinner.

makati1 on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 8:07 am 



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Apneaman on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 9:12 am 



As the MENA continues it’s AGW desertification and over breeding, Europe will soon become the biggest refugee camp in the galaxy.

Climate change will cause the next revolutions in North Africa’

Less than half a decade since the Arab Spring rocked North Africa and the Middle East, experts say the effects of climate change could trigger the next round of regional unrest.

http://www.dw.com/en/climate-change-north-africa/a-18620521

Migration is one of the most powerful forces of evolution and nothing can stop it when it’s flee or die time.

Boat on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 9:17 am 



Clog,

Europe deserves much of the credit for early renewable growth and the building blocks of scale along with China chipping in dramatically over the last few years.
From here on out It will become a group effort as wind and solar become the cheapest energy going. All countries will be forced to use renewables just to remain competitive as much as possible as the price of these technologies keeps dropping.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 9:28 am 



Europe will soon become the biggest refugee camp in the galaxy.

And trigger a right-wing revolt (already underway) that would blush Hitler. The election of Trump is the start signal for some major political cleanup operations in Europe, just like happened in Eastern Europe after 1989 when these folks got rid of their local leftists.

Migration is one of the most powerful forces of evolution and nothing can stop it when it’s flee or die time.

We in Europe have means the native Americans didn’t have. The Mediterranean is one of the milder means. Just stop playing taxi-services for the Third World. The kicking out of US political vassals like Merkel and Hollande will begin very soon.

#ReturnOfOldEurope

There was no migration crossing the Iron Curtain. There is zero migration to ultra-rich Japan because they simply won’t allow it.

#FuckChristianity

Africa needs to be recolonized of sorts. These folks are unable to lift themselves up. China already made a promising start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNI3R4MGCw

Expect African countries to be “adopted” by Europe or China: development in return for resources (or military bases like in Djibouti).

Apneaman on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 9:40 am 



How’d that last right wing revolt workout for y’all Eurotards?

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 9:49 am 



China to construct railway in Nigeria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd0K9TyHoao

http://www.signalng.com/china-construct-19-4-billion-railway-nigeria/

There are many of these Chinese multi-billion projects all over Africa. That’s the model of future African development.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:06 am 



How’d that last right wing revolt workout for y’all Eurotards?

The world is running out of communists (zio-serfs really) to do anything about it this time; the last ones are reported to be spotted in North-America, but they are already with their skinny backs against the wall; you come to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtJvYdX4GKM

Why do you think you are so depressed.lol? You intuitively know what is coming. And this time you are on the receiving end of history, not us in Europe. We’re back, big time, after that brief Anglo-Soviet intermezzo.

Mild revenge is underway (parking the lucky parts of Middle-America in a European run Commonwealth), you euro-trash. If you are lucky we are going to keep you out of the Soros gulag (like had happened to the Russians) by intervening in North-America when the joint comes crashing down under its own weight.

Don’t believe me, believe you fellow CC doomer pall makati, who finally acknowledged that one of the reasons he escaped to the Ps is to avoid a forced participation in a civil war.

There will be enough allies in America to cooperate with and do major geopolitical business with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE

But what do you understand about history. Nil. Nada. Zero. Zippo.

Go back to you game-boy, you fool.

Davy on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:08 am 



China is a model for bad investments. Africa is a basket case and I am glad I am not in Europe. Clog, are those European renewables going to keep the 3rd world out. You guys need to get to work on solar powered lasers to vaporize the boat people. Lol

Boat on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:40 am 



Clog,

Forced participation in a civil war eh. Lol A George Soros gulag. That’s why you have to tune into peakconspiracy.com. You just never know what kind of future will be unveiled.
One wonders if the noise from wind causes changes in fluid levels in the brain. Clog, can you hear the wind?

Apneaman on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:43 am 



old dutch, you keep making your grand future predictions and I’ll keep posting what is happening in the here and now – collapse of all systems human and natural.

Your fantasy vs reality. A reality that most humans are psychologically incapable of admitting, hence the denial and magical thinking.

Perfect example here with Florida getting hammered by SLR and AGW jacked storms, yet denying AGW while spending billions on heavy duty pumps, new beach sand, raised roads, rescue operations, repairing and replacing AGW smashed to shit infrastructure and Dutch engineering expertise.

Is Florida’s climate change model — denial at the Capitol, frantic action at the beach — in store for the U.S. under Trump?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-helvarg-florida-climate-change-denial-and-action-20161202-story.html

Apneaman on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:50 am 



BTW, you ducked the question (again) How did that euro rightwing movement in the 1930’s work out for Europe? Death, destruction, starvation, disease, rape, rape, rape. I imagine it’s a safe bet to assume one or all of these consequences happened to you family. Probably why you are so obsessed and bitter about that bit of history.

joe on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 10:59 am 



This article is such brainwashing lies. Usual liberal drivel. Liberals use words like empowerment as if they actually have consequence. Another is participation. North Africa erupted because western governments promised elements within those countries they would back them if they did, and then did nothing except make things worse. The Arab Spring was a western creation from the start. The result of the Arab Spring was democracy in Egypt (but the wrong side won, ie islamist muslims political parties), which the US didnt like and so we have a military junta in there again.

joe on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 11:01 am 



Btw, Cloggie. Any idiot can see whats gonna happen in Europe. The elites will opress the nationalists the same way they do in the third world. They need to keep society divided to control it. Kings have been doing that through the ages.

Apneaman on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 11:17 am 



Joe, you mean they’ll try right? Doesn’t always work out. Euro nationalism/fascism won out in the 1930’s (at great price). French Revolution, American revolution, English civil war, etc. More times then not TPTB win, but nothing is written unless your name is cloggie. Regardless there will be blood.

Cloggie on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 12:16 pm 



Btw, Cloggie. Any idiot can see whats gonna happen in Europe. The elites will opress the nationalists the same way they do in the third world. They need to keep society divided to control it. Kings have been doing that through the ages.

So why can the Americans vote themselves out of the NWO, but the Europeans can’t?

Eastern Europeans could get rid of their commie rulers in 1989, but Western Europeans can’t?

Right. I beg to disagree. Multiculturalism will seize to be state ideology in Europe before 2020.

The Arab Spring was a western creation from the start.

Absolutely not! Unless you can prove that the Tunisian fruit salesman was on the CIA payroll, we have to conclude that this was a grass-roots uprising. When Clinton traveled to Cairo, she did that out of damage limitation. The result of the Arab Spring was the Muslim Brotherhood government in Cairo, something Washington hated and made them give the nod to this al-Sissi satrap to carry out a military coup to topple a legitimate democratically elected government.

Clog, are those European renewables going to keep the 3rd world out. You guys need to get to work on solar powered lasers to vaporize the boat people.lol

Still stuck in believing the Heinberg tale Davy, that running out of conventional oil means running out of fossil fuel altogether?

Don’t you know that the God-Emperor has decided that there is still for 1000 years coal? Don’t you know that he has the backing of masterminds like rockman and yours faithfully.lol

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/watchdog-earth/2016/10/10/trump-looks-burn-coal-1000-years/91850954/

Davy on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 3:17 pm 



Clog, the economy is always a constant in your calculations and the reason your predictions will fail. It is little different from mainstream economists who see energy as a commodity and constant without differentiation. They may view it differently with price as the definition but it is always a given. You are lost in your fantasy clog. I like your optimism though. It is nice to see people that believe in happy endings. Yet, why are you on this doomed site? Are you a closet doomer?

Anonymous on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 4:03 pm 



Clog, dont be a retard. That vendor was not on the CIAs, ‘payroll’, no need to be an idiot. What the Jewnited Snakes, does do, and has a long history of, is hijacking genuine protest movements and co-opting them for its own purposes. We can see evidence of massive western(uS) manipulation of so-called ‘social networking’ in order to ‘steer’ events in a direction favorable to the uS ‘interests’.

Protest and calls for reform are, in some instances anyhow, genuine and bottom up. BUT(qualifer), the uS is always standing by to either co-opt movements in such cases or, if things get out of hand, apply more direct means. Often times, the uS itself creates and funds so-called ‘protest movements’. The people involved in these movements, in many cases, may not even be aware the movement they are nomically part of, is a uS controlled stalking horse NGO. We can find cases where genuine protest, leads to a change in government, except the new govt is very cordial and welcoming of uS controlled corporations and military ‘aid’, even if that wasn’t necessarily what most had in mind from the start.

Of course, the uS does not always get its way, and from time to time, genuine independent movements can and do form actual gov’ts. But, let’s take a look at those cases and how they are doing today?

Russia – ceaselessly villainized and sanctioned
Iran – same
Syria – victim of uS pipeline war
Libya- failed state
Venezuela – uS lead economic\political warfare
Cuba – 50 years of illegal sanctions and uS harassment, regime change efforts.
Iraq – Failed quasi state
China – Alternately welcome by uS corporations, and also threatened by military alliances, bases and exclusionary ‘trade deals’.

Other examples are not hard to find. Any state the uS cannot control directly, or indirectly, gets the sanctions\surrounded by uS controlled bases and ‘alliances’ treatment.

joe on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 5:23 pm 



Actually Cloggie you can find find crazy idiots anywhere. Bin Laden found 19 of them on 9-11. The British have an actual printed game plan of how they toppled Mossadech (operation Ajax), they paid gangsters and shipped in outsiders, sound familiar, the initial protests in Libya and Syria are totally hijacked by outsiders from Europe and Saudi Arabia. Sorry Cloggie there is nothing new under the sun. People are evil and murderous, civilisation has collapsed before and life has been exterminated a few times. Who cares about Europe, whatever the hell that means, I just dont want some religious freaks telling me what to do I believe in God but that doesnt mean I want crazy fools telling me how long my beard has to be or some liberal nuts telling I have to be nice and tolerate same fools because thats the right thing to do, who the hell do they think they are. The Europe you say you love Cloggie is now the Europe of mosques and atheist liberal socialists that protect them. Its a dead horse.

makati1 on Fri, 2nd Dec 2016 7:20 pm 



joe, Right On!

Theedrich on Sat, 3rd Dec 2016 4:51 am 



We hear constantly about how the efforts of the European Right to survive worked out badly in the second quarter of the twentieth century because it was “evil.”  As if it had evaporated due to fairy dust and the angelic nobility of Christianity.  The fact is that it was crushed by the Zion-controlled Anglo-American tyrannosaur.  It had nothing to do with “justice” or “right,” which are always and everywhere a function of violence-backed dominance, threat and power.  As the conquering Gallic chieftain, Brennus, in 390 B.C. contemptuously told the Romans objecting to terms of the Gauls’ withdrawal, “Woe to the conquered!” (Væ victis!).

Given the insane and bloody suppression of the European struggle for survival in 1945, the globe’s only hope is now doomed.  Meanwhile the elites tell us that utopia lies ahead and the biological descent back into the jungle is the peak of all evolution.  In fact, the reality is now that, unless Judeo-America somehow exits world history, there is no hope left and the final collapse of planetary evolution is inevitable.

Cloggie on Sat, 3rd Dec 2016 6:19 am 



Joe opines: Who cares about Europe

700 million Europeans do. Oh wait make that 640 million as you said the other day that your English aren’t Europeans; fair enough considering your behavior in the 20th century. But who cares about Britain, not even the English care about it…

https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from-the-uk-and-apply-to-join-the-eu

… Britain will dissolve in the gene pool of the third world. Allah Akhbar! (We in continental Europe are still interested in Scotland though and the Scotts are interested in Europe btw)

But, as it turns out, there are people in Middle America…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pNXBlrf9jY

… who on second thoughts opine that “white lives matter” after all.

On November 24 Joe wrote: This is the end of the white man

No it isn’t, it is merely the end of Anglosphere and Anglo-Zionism.

On November 9, the entire world observed that America is (probably terminally) divided to the core about the future of the country.

The ones that were defeated (“the communists”) wanted to continue to believe in exceptionalism and American world empire, the follow up of your British empire.

The ones that won want to “take their country back” from the globalists/racial communists and become a normal, non-imperialist country, with a clear and separate aura and identity. A country that is about “Americana”, as Alex Jones loves to put it. The outcome of the election can be adequatly described as a “whitelash”.

European-America’s history is now entering its sixth century. First there were three centuries of being a European colony. Thanks to decisive support from continental Europe (France-troops and Holland-weapons/money, in order to kick your British folks under the nuts, who got a little too powerful in Europe), the American uprising succeeded and the fourth American century was one of true independence. With some justification it could be called a continental European century in the light of who had been defeated with whose support.

In the fifth century, that is the twentieth century, a certain group from the Shtetls of the Ukraine entered America by the 1880s and quickly rose to dominant positions in American society (media, Wall Street finance and eventually politics).

In the US, a “deep state” began to develop of string pullers, of lobbyists, of money-men, of media moguls, without whom nothing would function anymore and who decided the direction of the country: global empire, with the aim of bringing the world into the hands of the Self-Chosen. By 1933 they took over the Roosevelt government and began to use it to secretly team up with the British war party around British traitor and half-American Churchill, as well as the USSR, where a similar take-over had been realized between 1917-1922 and all three conspired to organize an attack against the European rulers of the world of 5 centuries, by exploiting the European WW1 conflict-in-overtime about who was to be the most powerful state in Europe: Britain or Germany.

[part 1]

Cloggie on Sat, 3rd Dec 2016 6:19 am 



As per November 9, 2016, a new chapter has been opened in American history. With Herr Drumpf, “Continental Europe” took over the US from the Anglo-Zionists and there is a good chance of the sixth European American century to become the second continental European century, another America First century. Bye-bye joe, ghung, Friday & Plantagenet, mind the step on your way out.lol European America will never again fall back to the old NWO-America and if a string of secession’s will be the price for that, so be it.

What is next is the complete dismantling of Anglosphere:

https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg

Russia is knocking on Europe’s door and the European Right, about to take over from the NWO-US vassals, is willing to let them in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM_hBn6g4mQ

After the breakup of America, nobody is going to defend Australia, a tasty prey for an over-populated China. And the Europeans will quietly use Australia as a geopolitical safety valve against Chinese expansionism into European Lebensraum and resource reservoir Siberia.

Britain is going to fall apart in an Islamic Greater London, Wales, rump-England and EU-member Scotland. The famous Houses of Parliament will become the Great Mosque of London, with Big Ben used for the Calls to Prayer. Call it Hitler’s revenge from the grave.

[part 2]