Insurrecto-Riotosis

24 Comments on "Insurrecto-Riotosis"

Richard Ralph Roehl on Sat, 22nd Nov 2014 4:23 pm 



Two things:

1. During the vicious $talinist era, the Russians often repeated a bitter aphorism that said (when translated into English)… “The worse, the better!”

2. Old Coyote Knose… the number one lesson of the $ovietnam war era was… “You’re Honor! We had to burn down the village in order to save it.”

The ‘Anarchist $ociety’ endorses both of these views.

RRR

Makati1 on Sat, 22nd Nov 2014 7:19 pm 



The riots have only begun. As conditions get worse and people have less and less to lose … they will ‘lose it’.

Good to see the sheeple get off their couch in the US and start to protest. Europe is also waking up to the Brussels Elite. Interesting times ahead.

wildbourgman on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 12:36 am 



Is protesting at home an acceptable form of civil disobedience these days ? I’m just not concerned enough to waste my time on the front lines at this point.

Especially during football season.

Northwest Resident on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 1:52 am 



Maybe what we should be protesting is the totally rigged game that the stock market has been turned into.

I don’t agree with all the points made by this author, but he does a very good job of describing how the stock market is manipulated, propped up by the Fed, and turned into a “confidence” tool.

To boost confidence in stock prices, the Fed buys futures, or so this writer says.

“The point here is, our general indices have been at that critical point now for a year, without “normal” reactions post critical points in time, from longer term time scales to intraday. This suggests that many times, there is only an audience of one buyer, and as price goes up to certain levels, that buyer extracts all sellers. After this year and especially this last 1900 point Dow run up in October, and post non-reaction, that I am 100 percent confident that that one buyer is our own Federal Reserve or other central banks with a goal to “stimulate” our economy by directly buying stock index futures.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-22/veteran-sp-futures-trader-i-am-100-confident-central-banks-are-buying-sp-futures

adamx on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 2:04 am 



The problem with a revolution is “who wins?”

Just looking at the “Arab Spring” you can see the usual answer: the biggest jerks with the least scruples. Not always 100% true (Tunisia has done OK), but generally revolutions end with bad things. Napoleon, Stalin, stuff like that. And that’s AFTER the revolutionary war and/or civil war and associated chaos.

So I have pretty mixed feelings on the whole thing. On the one hand, I kinda want to see an insurrection. Certainly those at the top need to be reminded of the precariousness of their station, and who guarantees that station and can take it away. But a round of the old guillotine isn’t going to guarantee that the resulting order will be any better.

J-Gav on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 3:42 am 



Quite true Adamx.

I did the Paris march in remembrance of Rémi Fraisse, though, and there were no shop windows smashed, no vehicles burned … Alongside an obvious pissed-offedness at police brutality,it still maintained a rather solemn aspect to it. Didn’t exactly look like a prime example of “riotosis.”

Of course things could get out of hand if TPTB continue on their spree of thievery and deception.

Makati1 on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 4:51 am 



adamX, how did the US get it’s independence from Briton’s crown?

Revolutions are common in most every country in history where the wealth and power got too concentrated in the top 1/1000%. When one family, the Waltons, have more wealth then the bottom 100+ million Americans, something is wrong. Maybe it’s time for a revolution and a reset to a different US government?

Ferguson could be the match that sets it off. There is a lot of bottled up hostility out there in America land. And a lot of weapons and ammo in the hands of it’s citizens. Thousands of frustrated war vets that have been forgotten by their masters. Millions of frustrated teens and 20 somethings that are getting to the boiling point. That is just a few of the fuses waiting to be lit.

The powers-that-be know this and know that one more crash of the financial system could be the end of America as we have known it. But basically, the government is still saying “Let them eat cake!” while they make the rich richer. Guillotines anyone?

Makati1 on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 4:54 am 



So, adamX, you are saying that you prefer servitude and pain to the possibility that it could be better with a new government? Typical, “let someone else do it” American.

Davy on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 6:14 am 



Demonstrations are a young person’s game. My daughter goes to them in Madrid. The Spanish turn it into a social event. I see no benefit at this point to demonstrate because it is a no win situation. Why demonstrate descent? It would be better to stay at home and start prepping. These folks want results that are fictional. The top is rigged. The economy is rigged. Command and control at the top is rigged. These things happen when limits of growth and diminishing returns occur. The pie shrinks and economic triage begins. Throughout history we see the traditional results of contraction with the wealthy and connecting consolidating power and resources. We also see dictatorships and military rule. I see this as the likely next step once enough pain is felt. The other aspect of demonstrations that is worrisome is getting your ass planted on a list of subversives on some pimple faced NSA subcontractors file.

Cloud9 on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 6:22 am 



Everything is held together by the infinite printing press. The tentacles of the omnipotent, omnipresent state become instantly impotent the moment the money stops.

Our high point as a civilization was in 1969 when we went to the moon. That was our Hadrian’s wall. Our industrial base began its collapse shortly after U.S. oil production peaked in 1970.

The slide to the bottom of American industrialization has not been a straight line. Anomalies like Prudhoe Bay and the Bakken have provided momentary upticks to the downward slope. Still, the downward trend is readily apparent. The ever growing expanding state that resulted from our industrial age will inevitably collapse under its own weight.

In as much as 60% of us depend on that state for sustenance the contraction of the nanny state may be brutal. Then again, maybe not. The Cubans seem to be getting through it.

.5mt on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 7:07 am 



Sticking it to the Man! Power to the Soviets Right On!

I can has Nehru Jacket nao?

Davy on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 8:14 am 



Cloud, I am going to give you a doom view of what is happening globally. The US & Europe will leap frog Asia with our deindustrialization. It is already well underway for 20 years now. We are well on our way to adjustments in this area.

Unfortunately a huge sunk investment in suburbia was pissed away but this is less bad than Asia’s intensive urbanization into mega population areas. In fact the suburban dispersion may be advantageous in some cases allowing for easier back to the land efforts. We are ready to transition further. What is needed now is all the strip malls and big box stores to become cottage industries. We need to convert the broad acre corporate farms to small landholdings with a localized focus.

This is more likely to happen in the US especially where we already have a population with declining wealth and opportunity. Asia on the other hand has had incredible growth of consumption and population. It is set for a bottleneck fall of epic proportions. This is primarily true because of the population overshoot and ecosystem degradation of farmland and water resources. The US and Europe have had many years of efforts to improve water and land. Asia has embarked on the opposite with rapid industrialization.

The US and Europe will by no means escape pain. The wealth drop will still be painful but there is significant low hanging fruit for such a fall. Population size, especially in the US, is manageable for this. Again the degree and duration of the descent is critical. The where, when, and what kind of descent is a dominant feature of transition. I have no problem with the diminishment of the US and Europe both have comparative advantages. The sooner the better for transition.

Cloud, let the corn porn play out. The people that promote corn porn are the wealthy and connected. If you are the 90% of the population experiencing lower living standards do you really believe the corn porn propaganda? NO.

In closing I do not know how this will play out nor can anyone know but the conditions for a landing and reboot are far better in the US and Europe than Asia or Africa. Over population is the key factor and the extent of deindustrialization and wealth destruction. These factors are already in motion in the west. These factors will allow the west to leap frog the east.

Northwest Resident on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 10:23 am 



Davy — There’s ONE and only one thing preventing widespread riot in America today:

“Roughly 70 percent of all government spending now goes toward dependence-creating programs. From 2009 through 2013, the U.S. government spent an astounding 3.7 trillion dollars on welfare programs. In fact, today, the percentage of the U.S. population that gets money from the federal government grew by an astounding 62 percent between 1988 and 2011.

Recent analysis of U.S. government numbers conducted by Terrence P. Jeffrey, shows that there are 86 million full-time private sector workers in the United States paying taxes to support the government, and nearly 148 million Americans that are receiving benefits from the government each month.”

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/go-figure-86-million-full-time-workers-148-million-govt-beneficiaries/

wildbourgman on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 10:24 am 



Revolution has to have by leaders with enough intelligence to develop a plan. Then they have to have the resolve to follow the plan through to the bitter end and they have to never waiver when it’s time to use horrible violence. So who among us are so bright that they could lead such an insurrection and not also be living a nice cushy life that they don’t want to leave and very possibly lose? Who has the resolve to see the destruction through to the end just so they can rebuild a better society later? Who has the resolve so strong that they would give up the reasons for that resolve today such as family, just so they can give others a better future tomorrow?

I just can’t see myself losing my children in such a conflict, even though I strongly believe that they and their children will be less free. I’m too weak. Now let’s look at the kind of person that successfully carries out these missions, they are usually narcissistic, power hungry psychopaths. They are the kind of folks that have the intelligence to know that you have to kill off the entire Romanov royal family, no matter the age or how far removed they are from the throne. They also have the resolve to make sure it’s carried through.

So your revolutionary is rarely George Washington, who left office after two terms and more often Lenin who has never even decomposed, is that what we want? Where are the altruistic revolutionaries that give up power after taking it?

J-Gav on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 3:36 pm 



NW – Good point. Dependence creation is certainly much more prevalent tha

J-Gav on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 4:07 pm 



NW – Good point. Dependence creation is certainly much more prevalent than, say, job creation. But then we know that job creation also entails more wear and tear on the eco-system. Kinda stuck, ain’t we?
That’s the inextricable side.

On a more positive note, more and more people recognize that change IS gonna come, one way or the other, and are putting alternatives on offer faced with our multiple challenges as a species (monetary and financial, humans as a part of nature, “growth and progress” redefined, etc) . It will take some time for this to sink into the fabric of our societies.

“How much time do we have?,” is probably the biggest question which need not be asked, since it remains to be seen what ‘being human’ means, if anything.

The next question would logically appear to be: “What shall we do with WHATEVER time remains?”

The response cannot be John Wayne-style individualism accompanied by State tyranny (poor ole John never got his head around that one), but rather generalized cooperation (yes, as opposed to all-out competition – (Super Bowl, Rose Bowl, Fruit Bowl, who cares?) Sports, fast-food, mega- shopping malls, 90% of media … is all about shitty little details which should have nothing to do with how we perceive reality and run our daily lives.

When kick-back kicks in, what form will it take? That’s a pertinent question which I think, though often obliquely, animates many comments on this site.

Northwest Resident on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 4:58 pm 



J-Gav — When the EBT cards stop working, that’s when TSHTF. Like happened during the government shutdown, temporarily, and accidentally I’m sure. If nothing else, it gave us a hint of the madness that would ensue if the government(s) cut off welfare assistance. Sad thing is, that day is coming, quite possibly sooner than we expect. And even more sad is that once upon a time many if not most of these people had a job until that job got shipped overseas, or got cut so that companies could still report a profit in the face of sky-high energy costs and lack of demand for their products. That situation is just going to keep getting worse — the slow squeeze is on and the breaking point is somewhere on the horizon.

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/12/riot-time-food-stamp-users-in-near-panic-over-ebt-card-failures/

kervennic on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 6:31 pm 



In todays world, al qaeda would not fly into the twin tower but right into google datacenters.

Davy on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 6:40 pm 



NR, no doubt the riots will occur but riots are preferable to an Asian famine. The riots will have a lifecycle then people will settle down to survival. We don’t know how, when, where this crisis is going to materialize. How bad is it going to be?

I have friends on welfare. Welfare is pocket change. The real welfare is at the very top and among the seniors with social security and Medicare. The US and Europe after the riots and the craziness are in a much better position to shake out to something than 4BIL desperate people in an area smaller than Russia which we call Asia. It is the size of the population that is going to be the deciding issue in any crisis.

Northwest Resident on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 7:02 pm 



Davy — No argument there. Riots are riots. They burn, they loot, they express their rage, then they go home. A few of them get thrown in jail. In serious future cases, there’s a good chance that some of them might get worse than jail, maybe shot. But you’re right, mass starvation is a whole different thing, and the dense population areas are much more susceptible to that happening than most places here in America — China and India, for example.

Makati1 on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 8:12 pm 



Ah Davy, and you are expert on both? Personal experience? The ‘ex-1%er” that flies in his family jet to the Bahamas. What do you know about poverty or today’s Asia? Only what you may have read in the MSM machine’s propaganda.

I prefer to live where the culture is still connected. Family and neighbors are close and helpful to each other. Starvation is in the US already as I have demonstrated with references before.

When the corporate farms go down and the imports stop, the US is going to starve. Those 300 million guns will be used to take anything you have that you cannot protect. Death by .308 or 9mm is no different than dying any other way. You are dead. Your wife and family are dead. I may be living on a few locally produced foods but, I will be alive. And if I die, I will not regret it. After all, as you say, I am an old man of 70. LOL

Makati1 on Sun, 23rd Nov 2014 8:21 pm 



Anyone who thinks they know the Ps might take time this weekend to watch this from NOVA or the footage taken during the Super Typhoon. This is coming to the Eastern shore of the US eventually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjWHS1n9jOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2yCWWOq0iA

Compare this to Hurricane Katrina in a so-called 1st world country…

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2014/08/hurricane_katrina_nine_years_l.html

http://www.history.com/topics/hurricane-katrina

Katrina was a Cat.3. Yolanda was Cat.5.

Ralph on Mon, 24th Nov 2014 7:24 am 



Insurrections in the ‘Arab Spring’ where largely coordinated through the new media, Facebook, twitter, SMS etc.

They managed to keep one step ahead of the local secret police who were not in control of these media (at the time).

In the West, NSa/GCHQ et al are two steps ahead of these technologies (or were, until Snowden blew the lid).

Communications are now an open arms race to build and lock down new encryption and anonymization methods. For example, the UK is about to introduce automatic police access to ISP data linking IPs to physical addresses.

I took part in the biggest political event in UK history (2 million march against invasion of Iraq, 2003) but the government ignored it and it has largely been forgotten. UK politics has now drifted into right wing isolationism with the rise of UKIP.

We are in danger of civil (racial) war by proxy in Syria, with UK Sunnis joining ISIS and white mercenaries joining the Kurds, etc. (for a price).

We will see blood on the streets of the UK again soon.

Ralph on Mon, 24th Nov 2014 7:30 am 



The UK is now a police state. We recently held our first secret trial (not as secret as the state wanted, maybe there have been completely secret ones already)
where a Muslim was convicted of plotting to kill Tony Blair. They needed to keep that one largely secret, otherwise half the population would have turned up to cheer the plotter.