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EU response to Brexit: Totalitarian Super State

The Polish news channel TVP Info reports French and German foreign ministers are ready to reveal a super state “ultimatum” to EU countries in response to Brexit.

The totalitarian proposals will strip the sovereignty of member states and the ability to have an army. The criminal law system and central banks will also be removed and run by bureaucrats in Brussels.

Additionally, member states will lose control of their borders and procedures on admitting and settling migrants.

“Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture,” a preamble to the document states.

The drastic measures will be presented during a meeting of the Visegrad group by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today. The Visegrad group consists of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia.

“This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed,” complained Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski.

“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.

“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit.”

The super state proposal is a response to rumblings in Europe, Scandinavia, and France to depart the union. It will likely arouse further Euroskepticism.

Prior to the Brexit vote, European Council president Donald Tusk warned that European citizens do not share the enthusiasm of their leaders for “a utopia of Europe without conflicting interests and ambitions, a utopia of Europe imposing its own values on the external world, a utopia of Euro-Asian unity.”


27 Comments on "EU response to Brexit: Totalitarian Super State"

  1. makati1 on Mon, 27th Jun 2016 9:24 pm 

    More bullshit.

  2. ghung on Mon, 27th Jun 2016 10:05 pm 

    Another profound comment…..

  3. JuanP on Mon, 27th Jun 2016 10:47 pm 

    I haven’t read this news anywhere else. I think this may be a lie, it sounds like a lie to me. I guess tomorrow we will find out. It sounds far out.

  4. Croatian Holiday Maker on Mon, 27th Jun 2016 11:37 pm 

    Complete nonsense.

    The very successful anti-NWO protest movement in Europe Pegida has meanwhile begun to openly plead for Paris-Berlin-Moscow and to get rid of American overlordship and dangerous warmongering in the Baltics, Poland and Ukraine [4:55]. Berlin wants to double its defense budget, but Pegida prefers investment in family policy instead.

  5. GregT on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 12:13 am 

    The NWO is dead. Long live the NWO.

  6. Northwest Resident on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 1:00 am 

    The New World Order is likely to be complete disorder.

  7. onlooker on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 2:54 am 

    More like the New Disordered World haha

  8. Hello on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 5:55 am 

    The British seem to get cold feet. Maybe they will vote a second time?

    Too bad, there seems to be no escape from the claws of the EU machine.

  9. Davy on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 6:59 am 

    There appears to be a dual nature to the current global momentum. There appears to be a degree of stasis of change. This is likely the case because there are no alternatives systems at this point. This is similarly exhibited in complex ecosystems that are in climax. Niches are occupied with succession opportunities repressed. We are seeing little creative change these days at all levels. There are no valid plan B’s for our modern human civilization on any level. We see at the technological level a leveling off of innovation and creative change. The renewable transition is a fantasy. Fusion is dead. Shale Hype bubble popped. In finance little has changed since the advent of derivatives and programmed trading. The central bank repression of money and markets is stalled and spent. Politically and economically we have settled into a multipolar world. The Brics are a dud. We see the American empire in tatters but influence still significant. China is a great player today but in no position to become more than a duality with the US economically. Russia is now a major player politically but without further ascendance potential. The EU has lost momentum especially with Brexit uncertainties politically and the economics of the sovereign debt crisis smolders on.

    Meanwhile the economic decay, decline, and deflation never sleeps. The dead state of oil moves ever closer along with multiple negative peak oil dynamics. Climate change appears to be in an abrupt change phase with the blue ocean arctic situation. The human system is stagnated on every growth and development front. Population continues to swell and along with it the continued erosion of carrying capacity.

    This points to a process that will unfold slowly and painfully. We are probably in a bumpy descent having left the bumpy plateau. We still have adequate minimums and velocity of trade. Confidence is holding probably because there is either confidence or the abyss. This stasis with a mature human ecosystem and a decaying greater earth ecosystem is dated but that dating is a mystery. We have possible decadal boundaries with oil and climate change. The economy and or war are ever present collapse mechanisms. Yet, humanity has eliminated its ability to follow a mild ecosystem succession of adaptation and mitigation of its overshoot and underlying ecological decline. We have stability but without the ability to adapt and change to prevent something much worse. We have collapse forces building with a stability of a paralyzed status quo holding.

    Brexit is proving this out so far. This was a disruptive event that will likely be without the adequate inertia to change the momentum found in our current stasis. It was a move towards change but without the ability to draw on energy for change. It is unlikely the British can go it alone. It is unlikely the EU can manage this divorce. Brexit will be just another European muddle much like Greece without end. It will be just another sore that festers. These crisis smolder because they are not enough to sink the EU nor can they be solved.

    This points to the global system that the EU is a subset of. The rest of the world is in an EU of their own making. At some point all these multiple and inclusive problems will produce a converging problem that snaps the system. We are likely heading for a process that is a shattering instead of an undoing. This relates to seismic activity and a big quake more than a flood. If Brexit is reabsorbed into the swamp of the status quo we will surely be heading for a new and greater fracturing of globalism. If Brexit begins the process of devolution it will be a positive in my mind. We must begin the process of unravelling so it can happen at a slower pace. The longer we continue the status quo the longer the seismic forces build for the big one. The sooner we embrace the decline and decay of devolution the better. I say that with a doubt in my mind. Sometimes I wonder if it would not be better to just have that big disruptive event that changes the extinction course we are on. Quick and painful but with the room for some rejuvenation after major disruptive changes. The next months will tell us that direction.

  10. Cloud9 on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 7:46 am 

    Davy, there is the distinct possibility that the unraveling political systems may follow the course of the soviet collapse. In some areas the centers of authority may very well simply be ignored and sink into oblivion. Some tyrants may be marched to the closest wall and shot. And some areas like London may experience ethnic cleansing and genocide.

  11. pinkdotR on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 7:49 am 

    Whatever the subject, do not take Polish National TV as a reliable news source. It has always been under political influence but now it is 100% propaganda for the leading party voters. Nobody else in Poland can watch more than 5 minutes of it because it looks exactly like the communist TV we still remember. It is not a news channel but comments channel – they tell you literally what you should think on this and that.

  12. onlooker on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 9:01 am 

    “The sooner we embrace the decline and decay of devolution the better. I say that with a doubt in my mind. Sometimes I wonder if it would not be better to just have that big disruptive event that changes the extinction course we are on. Quick and painful but with the room for some rejuvenation after major disruptive changes. The next months will tell us that direction.” Great summary Davy. The problem as you aptly stated is that to embrace decline and decay is the Abyss because they’re is no plan B. But of course the larger problem that hands over all life on Earth is the Environment completely becoming toxic or unresponsive to life especially higher life forms. This is a cumulative problem and from what I understand will reach a decisive stage change at some point that seriously threatens much of life on this planet. Our enormous population and its consuming patterns each day put every increasing burden in the form of depletion, attrition, contamination, takeover and disruption on the Environment/Ecosystems, so apart from the evolving menace of GW is the ongoing degradation of life support systems which may one day just give out or cease to function adequately. This beyond the resource extraction of finite resources, like water, food, fossil fuels, arable land, and a few key minerals.

  13. joe on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 9:26 am 

    Its a very precarious thing now for Europeans. The Germans and French elites are holding tightly to each other. The ECB is buying time, but the Euro is failing, and adding more countries to a faithless currency is a waste of time. A mark of this maddness is the resumption of accession talks of Turkey to join the EU, in my view the reason is obvious. To get Constantinople and control Russian access to the Mediterranean. Its like ww1 politics again. They have become obsessed with unity as a goal of its own, rather than asking whether or not its in the interests of the masses, they want to preserve themselves in their jobs and they will do it by constantly inventing crises to do it.
    Oil has allowed us to get this big. Now oil is showing its not an unlimited energy source, so we have limped from one tragedy to another since 2008. There is no end in sight and even if every Muslim nation joined the EU it wouldnt save them.

  14. JuanP on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 9:57 am 

    Davy “This was a disruptive event that will likely be without the adequate inertia to change the momentum found in our current stasis.” Well said!

  15. Anonymous on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 11:16 am 

    Just (more) Info-wars nonsense. Like Pinkdot says, Poland is not a reliable source, for anything. Completely under uS control, the Poles will do or say anything their uS\globalist masters tell them to. Trying to whip up a little hysteria? Small potatoes really, the poles will do that no problem. No wonder the shill Jones and his zionist-run ‘controlled opposition’ site took the bait….

  16. Davy on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 11:30 am 

    It looks like Brexit was an event that “wrong footed” investors. Markets could be in a structural unwinding with a risk off confidence hit with bear market possibilities. Conditions were uncertain but stable before but now the markets appears to be in a decided adjustment period to lower risk exposures. This surely cannot be good for oil demand.

    “Why Barclays Thinks The V-Shaped Recovery Is Dead: “Massive Redemptions Are Coming”

    “Keith Parker, writes today, active investors considerably increased risk exposures in the week leading up to the UK referendum. That trade did not play out as expected, and as a result this is where active money managers (MFs and HFs) find themselves now:
    By our measures, aggregate equity positioning by active managers is again near post-crisis highs as the market braces itself for a potential acceleration in redemptions after the equity collapse. With cash levels at equity MFs fairly low and net cyclical sector positioning near the highs, we believe managers are unprepared for outflows and lengthy risk aversion. Although there is cash on the sidelines, the current environment of heightened uncertainty gives rise to a “buyer’s strike” as investors wait for a sufficient value cushion to open up before deploying precious dry powder. Finally, short interest has considerable room to rise across cash equities, ETFs and futures.”

    “The bank’s conclusion: “The positioning overhang coupled with the ‘prove it mindset’ of investors now, points to further equity downside risk as well as a prolonged market bottoming process like we saw in 2011-12, rather than the v-shaped rebounds that have characterized equity markets of late (like January).”

  17. Apneaman on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 3:27 pm 

    Fine piece by Dave Cohen, demonstrating once again that the humans are not in control – their fear is. Same shit different century.

    Politics As An Unconscious Process

    “That is the situation we have reached today in Western societies. And this is where predictable large group behaviors kick in (beyond a more fundamental social stratification). Let’s list a few of the things we’ve been able to observe on a large scale in 2016.

    Everybody else, if they are being harmed by the status quo imposed by ruling elites, and therefore do not identify with them, must find someone to blame for their impoverished existence. It is interesting that this reaction usually (but not always) manifests as racism, or xenophobia or related responses. It is interesting because this kind of blaming (again in large groups) is always misplaced. It was the ruling elites who screwed them, but unconscious processes at the large group level do not permit a more realistic response. Oppressed humans remain docile in this regard, which is the same as saying that our basic instincts run toward hierarchy.

    Thus we see inevitable similarities in the Brexit Leave voters and Donald Trump voters, who blame immigrants or other weak, outlying social groups for their problems. Bernie Sanders’ campaign was interesting in this regard because Bernie was able to direct voters’ anger toward “the 1%” (the very rich). So Bernie blamed the right people, broadly speaking, but Bernie is also a socialist idealist, which brings me to…”

  18. Apneaman on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 3:47 pm 

    Steve Ludlum always has insightful analysis.

    Ciao, Britannia!

  19. Newfie on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 4:24 pm 

    The thesis of the article is a pile of male bovine excrement with a thousand flies buzzing around it.

  20. Apneaman on Tue, 28th Jun 2016 4:46 pm 

    Newfie, if it’s Infowars or anything by Mikey Snyder, I don’t even bother reading them. Same for industry cheer leading pieces. Spare thyself.

    I’m only here for the highly refined level of intellectual debate and discussion. Where else can one hear such gems such as Planty’s “glut” or Boat’s “it’s just capitalism” on a daily basis?

    Truly, we are blessed to be among such masters of wit and complexity.

  21. Davy on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 6:29 am 

    river of collapse.

    “Global Stock Surge Continues As “Investors Look To Central Banks For Support”

    “Why the ongoing rally? A squeeze, sure, and also month-end fund flows. But the fundamental driver remains one and the same, and we quote Bloomberg: “the relief rally endures as Asian and European stocks rally with crude oil amid speculation policy makers will use stimulus to blunt the impact of the U.K.’s decision to leave the European Union, including a pause in the Federal Reserve’s tightening cycle. Investors are looking to policy makers for support.”

    “So once again, back to the old same old: hope that central banks will step in and once again expand multiples now that global earnings are set to decline once more courtesy of Brexit.”

    “Not everyone is buying it of course: “While central banks assuring investors they’re ready to support the markets helps sentiment, it may be too early to turn optimistic,” said James Woods, a strategist at Rivkin Securities in Sydney. “We’ll probably continue to see heavy volatility. We’ll have to see what unfolds in the U.K. with the political situation after Brexit,” but for now the path of least resistance, not to mention short covering, is up and may well continue until the monthly window dressing process is concluded.”

  22. Davy on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 6:30 am 

    The “Muddle” will continue whether it be the EU or the global markets. We are not attached to reality anymore as a people. This is true with climate, oil, and the global economy. Bad is good and good is bad continues to dominate the markets. This EU crisis is just another Greek debt crisis of shifting the chairs around to delay and appease. Extend and pretend is the operative instrument of staving off reality. The Europeans are very good at doing nothing when it is a big problem. Part of this is just the reality of the European decision making process.

    We have to look at the longer term trends that don’t sleep and can’t be talked away. They tick on daily building up tension. The longer we go along without major fundamental change the more likely we have a strong event that pushes the global economy beyond a manageable degree and duration of decline. It is unclear whether a fundamental change is survivable and the time element is constantly compressing. If there is a window of beneficial change it is steadily closing. Many don’t realize how much of the vital life support stuff we all rely on can be lost quickly through an out of control economic crisis. Oil and food can go undelivered and within a few weeks havoc ensues.

    The markets may not interest some of you. This is understandable because they are esoteric and irrational. The continuously resist change. They are the domain of the rich. The markets are a casino and place of global malfeasance.

    We have a triad of doom in my view. The climate, oil, and the global economy. Climate and oil appear to me to be decadal events of collapse. The economy is different. It is something that can go at any time. A collapsed economy will kill as bad as the dead state of oil and climate change. Climate change and oil will compress and disrupt the economy so this makes the global economy another decadal collapse event. The economy will not survive a disrupted climate and or a dead state of oil. Both oil and the climate could disrupt at any time but both appear to have a momentum of stasis of a decade or so. The economy will likely be torn apart long before the worst of climate change and oil are manifested. This is why I am always referencing the economy in my comments. I am tracking doom and the economy is the nearest term on the doom meter.

  23. Davy on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 7:36 am 

    More European troubles

    “Germany Just Blew Up Italy’s Bank Bailout Plan”

  24. joe on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 8:21 am 

    Germans cant help themselves. To make themselves free, theyll imprison Europe.
    British exit, is a shot across the bow of Germany. Qualified majority has put majority rules over states rights. EU officials wont be able to be flexible at all unlike America. Thats why the EU will fail. The real risk is that some weird country emerges that tries to join some European countries together with those that oppose it. Right now many of the politicans in Europe are pro-EU, but the next group on the way are not. The writing is on the wall for Europe, Merkel is just trying to rebuild the Soviet Union she grew up in.

  25. JV153 on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 12:43 pm 

    If you’ve lived in Europe, you know that it isn’t, nor wil likely ever be a super state.

  26. Bystander on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 12:50 pm 

    Joey and his unhealthy antiGerman obsessions:

    Everybody in the EU is secretly relieved we finally got rid of of this nation of binge drinkers on the cheap, namely by letting you shooting yourself in the foot.

    Next will be the complete demontage of the UK, “Scotland is European!”

  27. Bystander on Wed, 29th Jun 2016 1:03 pm 

    England out, Russia in.

    French FM wants to see anti-Russian sanctions lifted soon:

    Putin visits German school and expresses faith in the future of German-Russian relations:

    RT doubts that Brexit will happen at all:

    Let us hope Brexit will happen as a necessary first step to bring down the NWO and completely redesign geopolitics.

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