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Burn Down the Plantation

In this sedition we bring you an exclusive interview with prison inmate Melvin Ray, secretly filmed inside Holman Prison in Alabama. Melvin is a member of the Free Alabama Movement, a national organization against mass Incarceration and prison slavery. They have teamed up with the IWW’s Incarcerated Workers Organizing Committee, to organize the largest prison strike in history, set to kick off on September 9th.

You can listen to our entire interview with Melvin Ray here.



28 Comments on "Burn Down the Plantation"

  1. Go Speed Racer on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 10:24 am 

    This has something to do, with peak oil ?

  2. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 10:50 am 

    No, but is does have something to do with collapse.

    The name peakoil is dubious for a site, with the event refered to at least 15 years or further away and Heinberg looking more like a low-hanging fruitcake with every passing year.

  3. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 11:32 am 

    The situation as portrayed in the video is indeed untenable. These people deserve a country all of their own, one huge safe space really, free of institutional racism and white privilege and shit.

  4. shortonoil on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 12:25 pm 

    “The name peakoil is dubious for a site, with the event refered to at least 15 years or further away and Heinberg looking more like a low-hanging fruitcake with every passing year. “

    The world’s petroleum industry is presently losing $1.7 trillion per year attempting to extract petroleum. There is not a single producer on the planet that can now replace the reserves that they are extracting. That by “definition” means that they are going out of business. It appears that Heinberg was right on money, and that you have such myopic view of petroleum depletion that it can be rivaled by any fruit fly. Your 1960’s interpretation of Peak Oil went out with the Hola Hoop. If counting barrels is your method of defining Peak Oil, you have left out 90% of the pertinent information. When petroleum producers can no longer make money producing oil, and never will again that is end of the oil age.

    Go count some barrels if it makes you feel more conformable; and don’t forget the high test camel pea, and anything that can be pumped out of Lake Michigan. Every barrel counts, according to you?

  5. ghung on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 2:23 pm 

    Actually on topic,,,

    The Prison Industry in the United States: Big Business or a New Form of Slavery?

    Human rights organizations, as well as political and social ones, are condemning what they are calling a new form of inhumane exploitation in the United States, where they say a prison population of up to 2 million – mostly Black and Hispanic – are working for various industries for a pittance. For the tycoons who have invested in the prison industry, it has been like finding a pot of gold. They don’t have to worry about strikes or paying unemployment insurance, vacations or comp time. All of their workers are full-time, and never arrive late or are absent because of family problems; moreover, if they don’t like the pay of 25 cents an hour and refuse to work, they are locked up in isolation cells….

    ….“The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners’ work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself,” says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being “an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps.”

    The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. “This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors.”….”

    Meanwhile, US to end federal use of private prisons:

    “The US Justice Department will phase out use of privately owned prisons, citing safety concerns.

    Contracts with 13 private prisons will be reviewed and allowed to expire over the next five years.

    “They do not save substantially on costs and … they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates said explaining the decision….

  6. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 2:58 pm 

    “The world’s petroleum industry is presently losing $1.7 trillion per year attempting to extract petroleum. There is not a single producer on the planet that can now replace the reserves that they are extracting. That by “definition” means that they are going out of business. It appears that Heinberg was right on money”

    Let me see… $1.7T loss/year
    Global consumption: 95B barrel/year

    That’s merely $18/barrel, big deal.

    Ever heard of the pork cycle?

    Low-hanging fruitcake Heinberg should concentrate on his violin. According to him in 2005 we should be in 2016 by a handwriging $300+ by now.

  7. shortonoil on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 4:12 pm 

    “That’s merely $18/barrel, big deal. “

    In 2015 the world discovered 2 Gb of new oil; it burned 34. The world’s oil producers are replacing 5.8% of the oil they are extracting. In 2016 it will be even less. $18 ?. Now were exactly did that number come from? $18 doesn’t even cover the cost of dragging the rig to the site. The average Bakken well is $8.5 million and produces 189,800 barrels in its first 5 years. That is $44.78/ barrel just to drill the hole, without adding in the interest on the money. Ultra deep water, and arctic are even more. We know that you are a horrific crap slinger, but could you put the scoop shovel down now.

  8. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 4:55 pm 

    “$18 ?. Now were exactly did that number come from?”

    You studied at Harvard? Well, then I explain it to you again, this time slowly.

    You claim that the world’s combined oil production runs a loss of $1.7T. World oil production is 95B barrel/year. If the oil price would increase with $18, the loss would be reduced to zero.

    95B * $18 = $1.7T

    When sufficient oil companies go broke, supply will decline and the price will increase and loses vanish like snow in the sun –> pork cycle.

  9. ghung on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 5:07 pm 

    Again, actually on topic:

    My Four Months As A Private Prison Guard

    “….They weren’t interested in the details of my résumé. They didn’t ask about my job history, my current employment with the Foundation for National Progress, the publisher of Mother Jones, or why someone who writes about criminal justice in California would want to move across the country to work in a prison. They didn’t even ask about the time I was arrested for shoplifting when I was 19.

    When I call Winn Correctional Center in Winnfield, Louisiana, the HR lady who answers is chipper and has a smoky Southern voice. “I should tell you upfront that the job only pays $9 an hour, but the prison is in the middle of a national forest. Do you like to hunt and fish?”

    “I like fishing.”

    “Well, there is plenty of fishing, and people around here like to hunt squirrels. You ever squirrel hunt?”

    “No.”

    “Well, I think you’ll like Louisiana. I know it’s not a lot of money, but they say you can go from a CO to a warden in just seven years! The CEO of the company started out as a CO”—a corrections officer.”

    It’s an entertaining article. I’m sure that Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) isn’t entertained that their stock dropped 50% the other day. Just another case of Obama killing jobs, eh? Wonder if those stock-holders like to hunt squirrel?

  10. Apneaman on Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 5:14 pm 

    ghung, not saving any tax money and worse service is pretty much how most privatization has gone. I don’t know any stats on the overall number of private prisons, but are there state and county privates too? One thing I have read that stuck is that the people in private prisons average 1/3 less “good time”. Just a coincidence that one eh? It’s a form of slavery no doubt. Should anyone be surprised? The first privates came in shortly after Reagan ushered in the neo liberal version of capitalism that said privatize everything. Capitalism has no morality so why be surprised at something like this when you hand the reigns over to them?

    A bad track record for privatizing infrastructure

    http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2013/04/04/a-bad-track-record-for-privatizing-infrastructure/

  11. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 8:54 am 

    Released emails reveal that Clinton in 2011 was interested in Parkinson-related medicine.

    http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-e-mails-hillary-looked-into-parkinsons-drug-after-suffering-from-decision-fatigue/

    So, who is going to step in for her: Sanders (first choice Dems electorate) or Biden (establishment’s preference) ?

    The revelations about the Groper, that is the sorry excuse of a husband, volunteering to become the First Gentleman, aren’t helpful either.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

    Make that Biden.

  12. ghung on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 12:38 pm 

    As long as Cloggie cites InfoWars a a source, no one will take him seriously….. Oh, wait!…

  13. onlooker on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 1:05 pm 

    Profit rules, all else is irrelevant. Maybe we should call this world IRRELEVANT WORLD

  14. ghung on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 1:20 pm 

    “Maybe we should call this world IRRELEVANT WORLD”

    Sort of like what Greer refers to as “Indifferentism” – the realisation that the universe is utterly indifferent to our existence and our petty problems.

  15. onlooker on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 1:28 pm 

    Actually Hung, I was referring to the indifference of capitalism and its owners

  16. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 2:02 pm 

    “As long as Cloggie cites InfoWars a a source, no one will take him seriously….. Oh, wait!…”

    According to ghung, only CNN is to be trusted. Additionally if Hitler would scream that 2 * 2 = 4, it would be enough for ghung to get the table of two abolished. A typical case of a complete inability to discern between medium and message. If medium is “wrong”, the message must be wrong.

    FYI: the email concerned is displayed. The source is wikileaks, not really controversial.

  17. Sissyfuss on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 1:49 pm 

    “You can go from a CO to a warden in just seven years where you will then be making $9.25 an hour.” Gotta get my resume up to date!

  18. ghung on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 2:20 pm 

    Cloggie; “According to ghung, only CNN is to be trusted. “

    Yet another lie from the binary asshole. I’ve never said, implied, or intimated that. I post from numerous sources, but InfoWars isn’t one I consider credible at all.

  19. peakyeast on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 3:17 pm 

    @Cloggie: Ghung has absolutely never said that. And I dont even need to have read 10% of his posts to know that.

    So stop spreading misinformation, mr. moron.

  20. Cloggie on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 5:06 pm 

    I see that ghung meanwhile needs help and needs intervention. Yet another war he is losing?

    Of course ghung would’t be so stupid to say that “CNN is always right”. But he does say that, “well it is Infowars, so it doesn’t need to be taken serious” (because they represent a political movement that is not his, to put it mildly).

    That is just as stupid as saying that CNN is always right.

    Poor ghung, he is in despair with the way US foreign policy is working out, although he is still willing to cover up 9/11.

    Listening tip for ghung, Dmitri Orlov among others on 9/11:

    http://thesaker.is/interview-with-dmitry-orlov/

    I propose that perhaps in the future communication directed at ghung should be monitered first by peakyeast, who can make himself useful in weeding out potential micro-agressions that could upset ghung and as such create a virtual safespace for our esteemed poster ghung.

  21. Davy on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 5:20 pm 

    Clog, i have the highest respect for Ghung. You are pissing in the wind.

  22. ghung on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 5:54 pm 

    “Poor ghung, he is in despair with the way US foreign policy is working out, although he is still willing to cover up 9/11.”

    Again, another lie from the cyberspace tough guy. It’s easy to spot those who never put their ass on the line for anyone else. Funny thing is, he never denies his untruths.

  23. Cloggie on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 6:07 pm 

    Davy, I slightly less so; let’s hope ghung doesn’t get wet.

    But perhaps I should indeed tone down, because my aversion against him has nothing to do with peakoil or sustainable living… there is indeed a lot admirable about him and I don’t differ much on that front.

    The real source of conflict has to do with interpretation of what really happened during the 20th century as well as radical opposing views/political choices related to the present.

    But that is admittedly not the intellectual center of gravity of thise site.

    Right.

    So tell me ghung, how are your pickles doing?
    (Just shoing goodwill here)

  24. Davy on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 6:50 pm 

    Clog, leave the 20th and step foot in the 21st. You are wasting time on history when you could be making history.

  25. peakyeast on Wed, 24th Aug 2016 7:09 pm 

    @Clog: I am not defending ghung – I am attacking you because you spread misinformation and lies.

    You show a significant lack of understanding and decency. From what I have read you cant claim pure stupidity as a defence – so you must have something similarly to Boat. That is a personality disorder of a very disgusting kind.

  26. Cloggie on Thu, 25th Aug 2016 12:06 am 

    peakyeast, if you reread the context you will see that I use that CNN phrase as a sneering rethorical device.

    Ghung rejects a prominent US dissident media outlet as incapable of dissiminating any truth, so I sneeringly suggest that the only source ghung will accept as being serious must (leftist) MSM, like CNN. Ghung’s little tricks is to isolate my sneer and present it as an accusation, next a certified a sleepwalker (warning; rethorical device) like you is falling for it.

    It is precisely the same technique he used when discussing Lithuanian Jews: taking historic events completely out of context, isolating an event and pretend it happened out of the blue.

    Regarding Boat, my mean beef with him is that he justifies any action of the US empire, described by him as “whacking a mole”, refering to invasions that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

    Ghung is slightly smarter than that but when push comes to shove he will evade discussion about 9/11 (“Bush-Abdallah relationsship explains everything”), the defining event of our time and the beginning of the destruction of the ME. Ghung knows very well that the arguments in favor of a Mossad operation are far more “explaining everything” than a non-existing Bush-Abdallah axis, but he doesn’t want discuss that state of affairs. Davy btw says he “gets tired of discussing Jews, becuse they are going to die anyway, like everybody else”. It is that same shying away to a discussion that really matters about how the US empire really works.

    People like makati and GregT understand that much better and are somewhat willing to talk about it. Certified fool Boat will counter that if you drive through America you will see far more Confederate flags than Israeli flags, hence the theories about the allpowerfull Israel lobby are bogus.

    It is a state of affairs perfectly described by the brave African-American congressman Earl Hilliard:

    https://youtu.be/yw_v3hqtCl0
    (14:50-15:38)
    “You have to understand it is a forbidden subject, nobody wants to talk about Jews… it is going to be difficult to get interviews”

    Both ghung and Davy are far smarter than Boat and know perfectly well who runs the US, but don’t want to discuss it. Because deep in their hearts they don’t want to do anything about it. Ghung as an Englishman (DNA level hardcore NWO) certainly not, but even Davy with continental European background is hesitant.

    For the rest peakyeast, spare me your hollow psychological diagnosis and your feigned moral indignation.

  27. Cloggie on Thu, 25th Aug 2016 12:32 am 

    Running the risk of ghung, not Davy, getting a heart attack, Nigel Farage appeared at a Trump event with very forceful support:

    https://youtu.be/oj4K9fr_WgY

  28. Davy on Thu, 25th Aug 2016 5:56 am 

    I find these history discussions entertaining and interesting. It is not my passion. History has been one of my favorite studies in my earlier years. I have read enough to see most including the alternative versions are slanted one way or another. The MSM version is completely corrupted. I don’t have the luxury of the time needed to sort through history anymore. My passion is the academics of collapse found in climate change, peak oil dynamics, and economic decay and deflation. My other passion is what to do about it on a personal level. Lithuanian Jews don’t much factor into that passion. I could care less about 911 anymore.

    We have very big challenges in front of us. Some we can avoid just by avoiding bad decisions. We can create our own problems. Let’s avoid that and in that respect some of the 20th century does matter. This is very much relevant to the issues of the geo-political. A war or wars can make our adapting to collapse much more difficult. There are efforts we can do to adapt and mitigate current problems. This can be done to avoid worse to come. Once example is retreat from the coast. We can make an effort to be less energy intensive. We can properly spend our remaining economic capital wisely. The majority that is coming relates to the scale of destructive change in degree and duration. This speed of destructive change is compounded by overpopulation and overconsumption. We have little hope of meaningful change with the size of our population coupled with an 80MIL yearly growth. Our consumption requirements to maintain our status quo is far in excess of sustainable and resilient to shocks coming from climate change, peak oil, and economic decay. We made arrangements to live a certain way that cannot be maintained and we allowed too many people in the meantime. The 20th century is irrelevant at this level.

    In the dark art of blame and complain the 20th century does matter. The act of seeking justice either morally or by force it may matter but it will change little. It will satisfy people’s revenge and anger. It may even hasten the process but not change the outcome. We are on a collapse gradient that is a process that is unfolding and will unfold no matter. This is necessary and based on natural law. The history of the last century does not matter now on the existential level of providing answers going forward. We are in a completely new reality. Compounding growth is not the new reality. Destructive change at all levels is the new reality. Limits and diminishing returns are the basis. Those old forces of the 20th century will be absorbed and consumed in this change. The rich and influential will be digested by changes ahead. Wealth and privilege will not stand the test of this time coming. This will truly be a selection event like no other in our modern human history. The socio-political will be leveled.

    This change is global at all levels meaning there will be no superpower left when the dust settles. Destructive change will be total with our civilization and its basis for activity that provides the civilization support. We have set ourselves up for a complete collapse. The question is how quick. A species and a civilization’s survival is predicated on the degree and duration of shock to its normal functioning. Its ability to adapt is related to abilities and challenges presented. If you are a status quo thinker believing in progress and development then I admit you will be stuck in earlier history because you see a continuation. It is just this continuation will be shaped by modernism. Development will occur like the 20th century so your history has relevance because you see the same players as relevant. You may even acknowledge destructive change but you believe in positive adaptation.

    I don’t and that is why I reject the talk on this board about the past. Much of that past on this board is anti-American and for good reasons. Much of that talk is hypocritical, selective, and intellectually lazy. The default is generally “blame it on the Americans and the Jews”. Blame it on the rich. Few want to look in the mirror or blame their people. I stopped trying to defend the US lately because it is useless. My defense was strictly for balance. The US has made a mess of the world but there is more to it. The world needs a scapegoat and a corrupted superpower in decline is perfect. There is so many angry lonely white men out there to find the time to fight that. I am looking to the future because the future is a new age, a new epoch, and a new reality from both. We are on the cusp of a new civilization that will be upon us with lighting speed. The 20th century will be of little use or interest when basic survival is at hand. The US Empire will be ripped apart but so will the rest of you.

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