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Africa Has Shitloads Of Resources

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Anyone who knows me — or has read my resume below — will understand why I have to comment on the horrendous outburst by the President of the United States on January 11th. I heard Jesse Watters on Fox News explain that the s***hole remarks were just harmless bar talk, but if we can agree that the White House is in fact the office of the most powerful administration in the world — and not a bar — then the following will make sense. If you think the White House is in fact a bar, you have nothing to worry about and I would suggest you stop reading further.

Africa will skip the mistakes of western industrialization

I have friends in Zambia, an African country south of the equator with borders to DR Congo, Angola, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, and Tanzania. Lucky for the many proud tribes of Zambia, they have a history of nonviolence and diplomacy, so they always strive for peace with their neighbors. I am not implying that disputes never occur, but on the scale of things, this is a very peaceful place on earth. However, we must of course acknowledge that extreme injustice is common in some countries, like DR Congo and South Sudan, and a lot of African countries have problems with corruption and nepotism, but this is not the same as saying all of Africa is in turmoil.

All African countries have relations to the United States. All kinds of relations. Commerce, education, socioeconomic, medical, development, tourism. No wonder they react so strongly against Trump’s inconsiderate outburst. But in my view, there is one particular reason why it is not wise, for any country, to place itself in bad standing with the African continent: natural resources.

1.2 billion people live in Africa on 30 million km2 of land. In comparison, China is 1.4 billion people sharing 9.6 million km2. The potential of natural resources on the continent of Africa is mind boggling. Apart from the obvious abundance of minerals and metals, the scale of potential exploitation of solar power and agriculture alone could make Africa a new technological superpower of the future. In other words: If we scoff at Africa and its people, they will do just fine by themselves.

Africa can feed the world

Africa represents 20% the world’s total landmass, and a lot of that land is good for agriculture. As an example, let me mention Kafue River Flats of central Zambia covering an area of 152,000 km2 of the country. That area alone, if cultivated, can feed the entire populations of Zambia, Zimbabwe, and South Africa combined. Just add conventional technology. In comparison, Denmark utilizes 26,000 km2 for agriculture, which results in food products that can feed 15 million people. Upscale that to the Kafue Flats and you have potential food production that can feed 88 million people. And this is just one tiny example, in one of the 55 countries of the continent.

Africa can power the world

600 million people in Africa have no access to electricity, but that number is dropping fast. Solar has really made traction on the continent. The potential is humongous.

More than 85% of every square meter of Africa’s surface can in theory be used to produce about 2,000 kWh of photovoltaic electricity each year. This translates to the theoretical reserves of Africa’s solar energy being 60,000,000 TWh/year, which accounts for almost 40% of the global total. If you were to utilize just 1% of this, you would have peak electricity production in the daytime of 6.8 TW. The world’s total electric energy consumption at any given time is about 16 TW. Storage? Batteries and/or global HVDC supergrids are bound to solve that. The world will end up being solar powered, and Africa has the opportunity to be the first continent completely off of fossil fuels.

Africa is a technology hotbed

High-profile technology ventures are becoming entrenched in major African cities. 4 years ago IBM started rolling out its AI framework called Watson in Africa, starting in Nairobi under the name “Project Lucy,” saying it would help to address continental development obstacles as diverse as medical diagnoses, economic data collection, and e-commerce research. IBM is investing 10 years and $100 million into this project, and I would not be surprised if it pays off big time.

The impact of information technology on the continent is of paradigm-shifting proportions. Look at how fast cell phones got into the hands of hundreds of millions of Africans, skipping landlines all together. They have used mobile phones for payment for more than a decade. Medical technology combined with educational technology is spreading so quickly that the so called “Girl effect” is kicking in. Rising population numbers is not due to many children being born anymore. World average is actually down to 2.5 children for every woman. Longer lives is the reason that we are aiming for a world population of 11 billion, which is very much on the shoulders of the old industrial world.

Africa will not succumb to bullying

Africa is in general skipping all the tiresome trial and error that the industrial world has gone through. Is that cheating? Not really. Africa has taken its toll (and still is) on war, racism, famine, disease, etc. Even though I have never witnessed direct danger in the 6 African countries in which I have lived and travelled, I do know a lot of people who have been mistreated — mainly because they were poor.

OK, so ambassadors representing all African nations state that they are “extremely appalled at, and strongly condemn the outrageous, racist and xenophobic remarks by the president of the United States of America.” And, they understandably demand an apology. Will they get that? Probably not as long as Trump is ruining running the world’s most powerful country. The peoples of Africa will not forget this insult, and they have all the necessary human potential to rise up to prosperity on par with the rest of the world — and beyond.

“Towards a Peaceful, Prosperous & Integrated Africa” is the clear vision of The African Union, and I will let them get the last word:

“We therefore call for the President of the United States to restrain himself and ensure that he espouses the values that the United States people have been known for.”

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Kafue River Flats stretching south from Itezhi-Tezhi. Jesper Berggreen 2014

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95 Comments on "Africa Has Shitloads Of Resources"

  1. Mad Kat on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:51 am 

    Mm, “Do you really think China or Russia want to take on the US and all of our allies. Like Europe, Israel, Australia, Japan, South Korea? I think not!”

    I would bet that the US stands alone. Those ‘allies’ are not going to sacrifice their countries for the US, with the possible exception of loser Israel.

    They are already turning away from the US in most areas. The US is a dying empire.

    As for “taking on” those countries, it would be all over in an hour. Why? i can give you about 4,000 nuclear reasons. THAT is why the US will stand alone if it tries something stupid.

    Grow up, MM. Step into the real world where there are life and death consequences for your decisions.

  2. GregT on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:53 am 

    Same person Mad Kat. Like I’ve said for several years now, expect his condition to continue to deteriorate.

  3. GregT on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 1:21 am 

    Sorry Mad Kat.

    Just to be clear, my above comment was in response to your comment before; maybe MM and Davy are twins?

    They aren’t twins MK, they are the same deranged individual.

  4. TheNationalist on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 1:24 am 

    Egypt has grown past it’s carrying capacity and more unrest is due at any time in that one country alone.
    With climate change I expect the mass white guilt crap to start soon trying to allow mass movement North again. Expect the usual attempts at marxist propaganda and moaning to start on a huge scale anytime now as TheDrich clearly explains. Davy you nailed the crux of Africas’ problem with the demographic growth profile and what is coming with higher temperatures in sub-saharan Africa.

  5. GregT on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 1:39 am 

    “Davy you nailed the crux of Africas’ problem with the demographic growth profile and what is coming with higher temperatures in sub-saharan Africa.”

    Well, thank goodness that the sub-saharan Africans, (who just so happen to be the exact same species as we are), aren’t consuming ten times their share of the world’s natural resources like we are, because if they were, all of us likely would have already gone extinct.

  6. Mad Kat on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 2:13 am 

    AH! Now it clicks into place! Thanks Greg. I have had that thought for a long time. Too many similarities. Split personality? lol

  7. Davy on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 7:09 am 

    “Just to be clear, my above comment was in response to your comment before; maybe MM and Davy are twins? They aren’t twins MK, they are the same deranged individual.”

    “AH! Now it clicks into place! Thanks Greg. I have had that thought for a long time. Too many similarities. Split personality? lol”

    Guys get a room. We don’t need to be a party to your digital affair. Connect on bookface and spend time together or something.

  8. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 8:29 am 

    Do you really think China or Russia want to take on the US and all of our allies. Like Europe, Israel, Australia, Japan, South Korea? I think not!

    No, they won’t. If Russia and/or China would attack the US unprovoked and start an invasion of US mainland, Europe will stand with the US.

    But that scenario is not going to happen.

    The real threats for world peace are South China Sea, North-Korea, Iran, Donbass/Ukraine. In neither of these cases is Europe obliged to “stand by the US” if the latter tries to assert itself in these regions. And Europe won’t stand by the US in these cases and will remain neutral in a conflict between the US and Russia/China in one of these four “theaters”.

  9. Davy on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 8:37 am 

    “And Europe won’t stand by the US in these cases and will remain neutral in a conflict between the US and Russia/China in one of these four “theaters”.”

    You don’t know precisely what Europe will do. This is just your opinion.

  10. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 9:15 am 

    You don’t know precisely what Europe will do. This is just your opinion.

    Not really “just another opinion”, but backed by recent historic experience.

    Remember:

    #FreedomFries
    #CheeseEatingSurrounderMonkeys

    ?

    The Americans were furious that in 2003 they could not use Europe as a colonial resource in their Iraq safari on false pretexts.

    And this gave all sorts of people in Europe (including me) and Russia…

    https://tinyurl.com/yamey3qr

    …and even in America (#alt-right)…

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/boreas-risingwhite-nationalism-the-geopolitics-of-the-paris-berlin-moscow-axis-part-1/

    …the idea that the US-led West could be walking on its last legs and that there is an alternative for Washington, namely Paris-Berlin-Moscow. The former means the end of the European race (or “whites” as they are known in America), the latter the restoration of European civilization. I leave it to you as an exercise to figure out what I prefer.

    Let’s cut the crap, you raped us with your Soviet and Churchill pall in 1945, now it is time for us in continental Europe to… um… liberate you back.

    https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/

    tic-toc-tic-toc

    We have never really accepted Yankee rule, the rule of a former colony, an unbearable idea. But I only have to read Davy’s doomer posts to know for a fact that the US empire story is almost over.

    Let’s bring it on.

  11. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 9:31 am 

    Theresa May hints at what she really thinks, namely that Brexit is a bad idea for Britain, but still claims she will respect the outcome of the referendum:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/19/theresa-may-hints-would-now-vote-stay-eu-tells-french-proud/

    I’m not so sure. Westminster will have the last word, not the population. And it isn’t even certain what they would do in a 2nd referendum.

    The truth is that Britain is split in the middle about the question. In a real democracy, in such a case, Britain should leave the EU… a little bit, as a compromise between leave and remain.

    The most likely compromise will the “Norwegian solution”. Not in the EU and euro but in the common market, as a net contributor, but uninterrupted in selling a 45% of the output of the UK economy to continental Europe.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907450/Theresa-May-German-Brexit-interview-Bild-EU-charm-offensive

    “Theresa May speaks German as UK steps up Brexit deal charm offensive”

    But I would not rule out that Brexit will be called off in the last minute, although I personally hope for the Norwegian solution, so that the French-German axis gets free hands in opening up towards Russia after Merkel.

  12. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 9:52 am 

    Clogg

    You have no standards for what you post. just like Madkat..It doesn’t matter if the source has any credibility or not. All that matters if it agrees with what you want to believe…You obviously never went to college.

  13. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 9:54 am 

    Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once.I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close….

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652617304225?via%3Dihub
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
    http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
    http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
    http://www.feasta.org/2012/06/17/trade-off-financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion-a-study-in-global-systemic-collapse/

  14. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 9:59 am 

    Behold Cloggs master race of Europe!

    https://imgur.com/a/nC5im

  15. Davy on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 10:02 am 

    neder, still opinions. Repeat after me: “I neder from lander do not know precisely what Europe will do in the above referenced scenarios. ” “I neder from lander am talking agenda BS out my ass yet again”

  16. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 10:05 am 

    Here is a comment someone sent me on reddit

    “Oh man, I was fearing I’d face someone like you, with facts and science backing their arguments. Here you are and this is exactly the type of answer I’m grateful for. Numbers and facts don’t lie, and we don’t need any kind of bullshitting at this point.

    Thank you for the time you took post the links to this references, I’ll take my time to read them and properly assimilate them. If you have more, I’m more than happy to read them.”

  17. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 10:45 am 

    Behold Cloggs master race of Europe!

    neder, still opinions. Repeat after me: “I neder from lander do not know precisely what Europe will do in the above referenced scenarios. ” “I neder from lander am talking agenda BS out my ass yet again”

    Two juvenile responses from the boards resident self-styled “exceptionalists” who are on the way out from history and will fail in conquering the world, as has been the agenda since 1933.

    You have to reinvent yourselves to play a new role, folks. If you are lucky you end up in a remote area of European civilization.

    The alternative is that your current masters, who hate you, will manage to keep control and you will end up in a North-American version of the USSR, or “Oceania” as Orwell used to call that future.

    If you are lucky it is going to be Eurosphere. If you do nothing, Oceania it will be. Take your pick. Being a doomer is not a valid way of life. Instead it is truancy of life and higher civilization.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/

    Eurosphere or Oceania.

    Tertium non datur.

  18. joe on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 11:29 am 

    Seriously, can you blame whites for being scared? Right or wrong, their leaders took over the world, raped it, robbed it, killed whites by the million in wars as well, then felt sorry for the world so have decided to mix the last of the whites with all the browns to make sure racism goes away. Where along the line did the average poor white person get a say in his/her treatment. The only place I can think of where the masses get any kind of real say is the US where white men and women consistently voted from the 1960s on for less racist leaders a d more integration, they even never put down so called ‘positive discrimination’ and have intentionally weakened their own political core and opened up their society to such an extent that there is serious talk of the end of the ‘white race’. So now it’s up to blacks, colored people and muslims to lead the world and do a better job, white got tired of it. See can the black man build cities like new York or Paris, see can the muslim continue man’s development (even the muslims buy European religious ART), so what if the white man’s power vanishes. It is fitting that the pleasure seekers should devour the earth. Enjoy our soot at the end.

  19. rockman on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 11:39 am 

    There are shit hole in Africa. That can’t be denied. But not every country. And it’s certainly below the dignity of the office of the POTUS to use such a term even in a private conversation IMO. And many of the shit hole countries have at least at least a portion of the blame falling on the legacy of corruption they suffered during the colonialization period.

    But not all of them. Haven’t had the opportunity to share my personal experience with one of the worst shit hole countries on the entire planet: Equatorial Guinea. An island nation off the west coast and neighbor of Nigeria. Drilled a few wells there about 10 years. Could write a thousand words but will just a few.

    On a per capita basis EG is one of 3 richest countries on the PLANET…not just Africa. And that’s thanks to oil. Oil that was developed decades after EQ got its independence from Spain. And yet most of the population gets by on a starvation diet. Another highlight: the current president-for-life (who took over after he had his uncle, the first P-F-L, recently had the constitution changed allowing him to execute without a trial any citizen. Why you don’t see any protests in EG.

    And you’ll be hard pressed to find any comments by the US or EU on the situation in EG: the split the oil exports about 50/50 with the EU getting most of the LNG. If the US really wanted to “export democracy” it could do so without firing a shot: the president does not his police or army any weapons except the machete’. Only the house guard is armed. All the US need do is park a carrier offshore (deep water port) where the marines would be visible). And then invite the president and his 300 person close circle to relocate to Switzerland where he has $billions socked away. Then simply put in place a Marshall plan that would have been entirely funded by their oil/LNG revenue.

    In fact Portugal could do it. LOL. But the US and all the EU countries will leave well enough (from their perspective) alone as long as the oil and NG keeps being exported.

    So there’s my occasional bitching rant about EG. The Rockman has also spent

  20. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 11:43 am 

    You have no standards for what you post. just like Madkat..It doesn’t matter if the source has any credibility or not. All that matters if it agrees with what you want to believe

    And who is to decide what is “credible” or not. The oldtimers here like Davy, Greg and makati can confirm that I believed the same shit you are still peddling now between January and November 2012. But then new data came in, like from oil professionals like rockman and I changed my mind regarding “peak oil supply”.

    Since 2012 the picture became ever better with the spectacular price erosion for renewable sources. I have zero doubt that by 2050 or earlier Europe will have a renewable energy base and the rest of the world by the end of the century. Technology will ensure that there is enough fossil fuel around to enable that vision.

    We may be beyond peak conventional oil, but a “Third Carbon Age” is next:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/third-carbon-age/

    Michael Klare may be right that renewable energy is NOT next in the US, but he is wrong about Europe, which is fine because that means that we get all the renewable energy industries and America will miss the boat. The experience in the 17th (Dutch wind energy), 19th (British coal) and 20th (US oil) centuries have shown that dominance in energy means geopolitical dominance/preeminence.

    But in the case of millimind it is clear why he is so fond of “peak oil supply”: it provides him with the excuse to be a dropout, since “the world is coming apart anyway”. Living an academic life is too much of a burden for our hobo-wannabee and living on somebody else’s purse (girlfriend? mother?) is so much easier.

  21. rockman on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 11:49 am 

    And to continue: So there’s my occasional bitching rant about EG. The Rockman has also spent some time in The Gambia. Another relatively poor African country populated by very nice and hard working citizens. Not an affluent society by any western standard but not a shit hole either. Their citizens would make a nice addition to the US population IMO.

  22. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:00 pm 

    On a per capita basis EG is one of 3 richest countries on the PLANET…not just Africa. And that’s thanks to oil.

    That may be true if you calculate the total market value of the oil in the ground and virtually distribute it over the entire population.

    The reality is different. EG is entirely dependent on western technology and markets to exploit the oil and put it to use. Without it the oil would simply stay in the ground.

    At least Khadaffi was able to act like a father of his people, more or less, and used the oil wealth to create the richest country in Africa (per capita). Until (((Sarkozy))), who in France is called “Sarko the American” for a reason and his house “philosopher” (((Bernard Levy)))…

    http://www.france24.com/en/20120606-libyan-war-brought-you-bernard-henri-levy-sarkozy-clinton-obama

    …no doubt in close consultations with the (((US deep state))), decided that Khadaffi had to be murdered as he was too independent from Washington.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM

    The West is sh*t and needs to be brought down… in order to start all over again.

    The only way out for countries like EG is slow adoption of western technologies. Sooner or later solar panels will be common good in Africa as well, just like happened with cars and cell phones.

    http://www.21stcentech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/cell-phones-Africa.jpg

    Traffic jams in Africa:

    http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120403033543-lagos-traffic-jam-2-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

    Chinese built trains in Africa:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7o6gZ5qA3Q

  23. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:09 pm 

    Their citizens would make a nice addition to the US population IMO.

    If it up to Chuck “shutdown” Schumer, your wish is his command as well as of the rest of the deep state.

    I would be careful though with what you wish for. History is little more than the endless conflict between competing tribes and is completely independent of race or religion and this is true regardless of how hard one shouts “racism”.

    Black Hutu’s and Tutsi will kill each other off just as easy as “very similar” white Russians and Ukrainians in Donbass or white Bosnians, Croats and Serbs in (former) Yugoslavia or Sunni’s and Shi’ites in Iraq and Syria.

    If you want peace, close your borders, like Japan.

    If you want civil war and the breakup of the US, import millions of “nice Gambians”. You can’t ignore ethnic and/or religious identity without having to bear the consequences.

    (Just like James Howard Kunstler I think it is too late for the US anyway).

  24. rockman on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:16 pm 

    Cloggie – “Michael Klare may be right that renewable energy is NOT next in the US.” Or maybe not. Two really big dynamics in Texas MIGHT change the picture in a few years. First, commercial solar seems about ready to bust out here now that prices have fallen. Not every state has our wind potential. But many get a good bit of sun. But what happens at night? We may soon see that problem solved in Texas: E.ON is building a commercial scale battery system here that will be fed by two wind farms it owns in west Texas. The important factor: it is designed to handle short term storage. Occasionally those wind farms produce so much energy in the short term (less the 48 hours) they have to supply it to the grid for free. Thus the economic justification for the storage system. A system that only E.ON is paying for.

    Not consider what might happen to the viability of commercial 12 hour solar storage if E.ON economic model proves itself. If the cost of commercial scale solar and storage proves to be a good investment for PRIVATE companies imagine what that could mean for the US Sunbelt.

    And anywhere else on the planet.

  25. rockman on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:31 pm 

    Cloggie – “That may be true if you calculate the total market value of the oil in the ground and virtually distribute it over the entire population.” No, that stat is based upon the actually revenue the country receive from the production royalty divided by its population. So with respect to per capita income your county is a shit hole compared to EG. LOL.

    Seriously. Yes, western countries developed those fields with their technology and capex. So what: how much of your GDP comes from western technology and capex? I suspect it’s pretty close to 100%. So what makes your country (and every other developed economy) different from EG with respect to its GDP?

  26. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:33 pm 

    Two really big dynamics in Texas MIGHT change the picture in a few years.

    You are rightly proud of the Texan achievements in the field or renewable energy, even if it is build by “f* foreigners” (your words), the money that paid for it is still Texan (or was rather.lol).

    But Trump is determined to support the rust belt and coal workers and for social reasons I can even understand his (short term) reasoning, although I don’t agree with it in the long run.

    But the US as a country has a long way to go to arrive at the level of Texas or some European nations, like Germany, Denmark, Scotland and others and still has no federal radical integral renewable energy policy like the EU has (90% alt-energy in 2050). It cannot be stressed enough how important such a policy is, because it gives important signals to companies and the broad public about what to expect and directs investment. The most important fact is that the policy is uncontroversial (apart from “populists”) and carried by a broad majority of the population (as long as the wind turbines are not planted “in my backyard”). Fortunately we have offshore and birds, decapitated or otherwise, have little political power to push through “not in my backyard” views.

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 12:41 pm 

    So what makes your country (and every other developed economy) different from EG with respect to its GDP?

    The difference is that when the oil goes, so will go the accidental wealth in places like EG, KSA and others.

    My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_bin_Saeed_Al_Maktoum

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equatorial_Guinea

    Area
    • Total
    28,050 km2 (10,830 sq mi) (141st)

    Population
    • 2016 estimate
    1,221,490[8]
    • 2015 census
    1,222,442[9]

    GDP (PPP) 2018 estimate
    • Total
    $27.611 billion
    • Per capita
    $31,931
    GDP (nominal) 2018 estimate
    • Total
    $9.907 billion
    • Per capita
    $11,457

  28. Boat on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 1:29 pm 

    Clog,

    What do you mean “so when the oil goes”. The US lagging in renewables was a good thing if your looking for cheap btu’s. This year global costs for renewables was 25% cheaper than 2 years ago.Your turbines and panels last for 30 years. Renewables installed represent a high cost like coal does now if they date back over say 5 years. 5 years from now might be a much better time to ramp up as prices for renewables keep dropping.

  29. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 1:59 pm 

    Boat, from a consumer point of view you are right. Holland thinks likewise.

    But early adopters like Denmark, who paid a lot for early btu’s, do own the biggest renewable energy industries, guarantors of future wealth.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/01/11/ten-largest-wind-turbines-to-date/

    According to Dutch 17th century capitalist wisdom, cost comes before gain:

    https://goo.gl/images/FE6M27

  30. Boat on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 2:06 pm 

    Clog,

    I was actually thinking of cheaper btu’s from a global competition point of view. Energy is a big chunk of base prices for economies. If you own stock in your wind companies I get your point.

  31. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 3:03 pm 

    Volkswagen is building a new plant… in Ruanda!

    http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/vw-in-ruanda-volkswagen-und-der-afrikanische-traum-a-1188814.html

    Motivation: China 2.0

    Average growth rate Ruanda: 8%

    Final assembly only, of parts produced elsewhere.

    500-1000 employees.

    Initial investment: 20 million (peanuts)

    First year production: 1000 vehicles, or 1 vehicle per employee (Wolfsburg has a factor 200 higher).

  32. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 4:00 pm 

    Rockman

    You are so fucking dumb its astonishing! Pushing solar and wind now are we?

    UC Davis Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q

    University of Chicago Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117

    Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
    https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf

    Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
    https://imgur.com/k7VecMq

    Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….

    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7382/full/481433a.html
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421509001281
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
    http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/energy/the_challenges/peak_oil.html
    http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017

  33. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 4:01 pm 

    Rockman

    You are so fucking dumb its astonishing! Pushing solar and wind now are we?

    UC Davis Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q

    University of Chicago Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117

    Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
    https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf

    Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
    https://imgur.com/k7VecMq

  34. MASTERMIND on Sat, 20th Jan 2018 4:01 pm 

    Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….

    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7382/full/481433a.html
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421509001281
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
    http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/energy/the_challenges/peak_oil.html
    http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017

  35. Go Speed Racer on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 3:13 am 

    It’s shameful for anybody to use the
    phrase ‘shithole countries’.

    After all, many of those shithole countries
    are in Africa, where they have no education
    few opportunities and marginal governments.

    This causes there to be a higher proportion
    of shithole countries than in the more
    westernized northern hemisphere where
    we have non-shithole countries like Norway.

    Nobody should be referring to these shithole
    countries as ‘shithole countries’ because
    its very politically incorrect to call
    some shithole country a shithole country.

  36. Mad Kat on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 3:19 am 

    Go, even the shithole America? lol

    There was a time when US presidents were a good example to Americans and the world. You would rarely hear even an expletive from them in public. But about the 80s, the slide to the 3rd world began, you know, and now we have … Trump who seems, you know, to be a perfect example of shithole America. You know.

  37. Cloggie on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 3:36 am 

    joe opines: The only place I can think of where the masses get any kind of real say is the US where white men and women consistently voted from the 1960s on for less racist leaders a d more integration, they even never put down so called ‘positive discrimination’ and have intentionally weakened their own political core and opened up their society to such an extent that there is serious talk of the end of the ‘white race’.

    That’s total rubbish. American whites never got a choice regarding mass immigration, it was presented to them as a fait accompli. And white America never liked it. The quiet revolution was engineered by the deep state and was gradually pushed through by the media over the decades since 1968, that watershed year in the West.

    The real America, that was Archie Bunker, made ridiculous in that Jewish written sitcom “All in the Family”, where some dimwit from Eastern Europe, the Polak “Meathead”, was given the moral upper-hand. And then there was that other Jewish written sitcom, “The Cosby Show”, where “dr Huxtable” and his family presented a life style that was indistinguishable from the white upper class.

    See, you dumb KKK-clown? Integration is possible. That was the message. And it was internalized, grudgingly.

    “Dr Huxtable” turned out to be a serial sexual predator after all. You can get them out of the jungle…

    So now it’s up to blacks, colored people and muslims to lead the world and do a better job, white got tired of it. See can the black man build cities like new York or Paris, see can the muslim continue man’s development (even the muslims buy European religious ART), so what if the white man’s power vanishes. It is fitting that the pleasure seekers should devour the earth. Enjoy our soot at the end.

    [part 1]

  38. Cloggie on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 3:37 am 

    There is zero chance that Africans or Muslims will carry on the torch of science and Enlightenment. These people are incapable of higher civilization. The true face of Islam, that’s the archaic Islamic State, replacing secular Baath socialism. The riches of Saudi-Arabia are for 100% the result of western colonization, science and technology. They just happened to sit with their lazy asses on an enormous amount of oil and the West was so kind to pay for it. When the oil is gone, it’s camel time again.

    You can’t get them more Anglo than joe. He is tired. He wants to surrender. Please go ahead joey boy, roll over and die. Two centuries of Anglo-Zionist dominance are more than enough. Every top dog gets a century and then it is time for the grave. We had the UK and US, but there is no new Anglo candidate in sight, thank God:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20160612_nothing.jpg

    It’s good that London is now the first Muslim majority capital of the Western world. Will keep the English busy in trying to protect their children…

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

    …so they can’t plot for another world war against Germany.

    [part 2]

  39. Cloggie on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 3:41 am 

    Anglo-Zionism is about to end, hurrah! They admit it themselves:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead

    The Final Solution of the Anglo Question looks like this:

    – Australia, New Zealand and western Canada go to China (will keep China out of Siberia)
    – Heartland USA seceded and in an alliance with and led by continental Europe (Paris-Berlin-Moscow) after CW2
    – Caliphate London. The financial district goes to continental Europe (Frankfurt, Paris, Amsterdam). Houses of Parliament become the Great Mosque of Londinistan.
    – Scotland secedes and goes to continental Europe

    Questions?

    [part 3]

  40. Go Speed Racer on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 7:20 am 

    I have photo-images of Mr. Master Mind
    and Mr. Rockman !!

    Here is the photo of Mr Rockman at one of his
    oil drilling operations:
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YhpPjcbEiEg/UjslaxDfQRI/AAAAAAAAGFE/ribCJUt37P4/s1600/The+End+is+Near.jpg

    And here is Mr. Master Mind, an average day protesting the upcoming end of civilization:
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/74/9e/11749e1341e0407c2e3d7cf7dc887af9.jpg

    So between those two, who has more credibility?

  41. Go Speed Racer on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 7:33 am 

    Hi Mr Mad Kat,
    It’s very surprising your thinking America
    is a shithole country.

    It’s not possible. America is a wonderful
    place look at beautiful downtown Baltimore

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_6042-jpeg.jpg

    https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/471377974_master.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

    http://uglyhousephotos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/150116b.jpg

  42. onlooker on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 7:53 am 

    GSR, the link to Rockmam connects to a guy holding an “End is near sign”

  43. Davy on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 8:10 am 

    Mass immigration is part of globalism which most everyone has embraced post fall of USSR and until recently. It is only recently that the excesses of globalism and sustainable development have been realized and called into question. Globalism with global liberal democracy supporting increasing affluence was at one time seen as a solution to overpopulation and poverty. If we lifted everyone up we would stabilize populations and increase prosperity for all. Free movement of people engaged in comparative advantage for increasing prosperity for all sounds wonderful. The problem with this is a finite planet at limits of growth in overpopulation. So we wanted our cake of the good side of globalism and eat our cake by forgetting the limitations.

    This globalism has further flaws because it has been hijacked by some who seek a one world order and others who only care about private profit from parasitic market activity. Globalism focused on sustainable development was a noble and legitimate goal with one problem of limits. There may have been a way to do globalism focused on sustainable development but not the way civilization has pursued it with the hijackings, corruption, and disregard for limits. We probably should have known better to begin with that this would be little more than a gaming of the system by human nature.

    We have allowed globalism to take over every aspect of life without proper controls. The primary controls revolve around wealth and price. Good controls are corrupted by the loopholes of moral hazard. Wealth concentration has corrupted the social fabric. Market based capitalism focus on returns without proper controls has destroyed our commons. We also failed to acknowledge the basis of globalism which is techno optimism is a failure in regards to climate and the planetary ecosystem. Techno optimism says we can fix our problems with market based capitalism driving efficiency and more technological development. What this has done has torn down traditional ways of life in the name of market returns from development. We are just wealth transferring the global world from the many to the few. This includes from poor nations to the wealthy. Techno development is always saying we can fix the problems of techno development with more techno development. This is most clearly seen today with the fake green renewable movement.

    This is what happens when good ideas are hijacked and corrupted. This is only going to worsen because the hijacking is complete. The results of this hijacking are now seen through our markets and financial system. Central banks manage the money for the wealthy special interests. Governments control spending for the wealthy special interests. Increasingly there is a stealth wealth transfer within society just as civilization becomes terminal in decline. All governments have been infiltrated by both competitive and cooperative forces. If you buck the system it destroys you. You must compete by the rules or die. This coopted civilization by the wealthy few who control most of the world’s wealth is typical of most civilization that fail. So in a sense we do have a one world order but not how many conspiracist think.

  44. Go Speed Racer on Sun, 21st Jan 2018 9:07 pm 

    Hi Onlooker,
    Oh, I’ve been hit, ya got me. I’m a goner.

    Yeah I didn’t provide that photo of Mr Rockman properly.

    I think he’s in Texas drilling for oil. Here is Mr Rockman in his white Cadillac:

    http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1970-1979/1976-Cadillac-Eldorado-Dukes-Hazzard-BR-BH-1920×1440.jpg

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