A lot of the critics of vaccination aren't just scientifically ignorant, they're also happy to bully people with lawsuits.

Take a look what happened to this guy when he pointed out that a radio presenter was talking a load of twaddle:

http://www.badscience.net/2009/02/legal ... /#more-862

No compelling evidence has ever been demonstrated that the MMR vaccine causes autism. But there *is* evidence that kids have died because their parents didn't vaccinate them.

My nephew is autistic. (high funcitoning asbergers) and my sister has had all sorts of people telling her waht to do, what she shouldn't have done, that they should have waited till he was after 5 years old to get his shots, loads of crap has been shovelled her way. Feed him this, train him in that, don't let him do X.

He was showing signs of being different from DAY ONE! He wouldn't hold himself upright long after the time he should have. He has an oral sensitivity so he wouldn't eat any food that wasn't "soft" or smooth. He wouldn't look around or be attracted by colours or movement like most babies do, he was just not interested in any of it. He was patently different long before he got his first set of shots, he wouldn't talk, they even thought at one point he was deaf he was so disinterested in his surroundings.

When I watch him and listen to the things she tells me about him, I see them as traits that many of my family members share. Like the relative who has an oral sensitivity and refused to eat jello (except through a straw), processed cheese of any kind, et al.

I think in the long run they are going to prove (as we see evidentially now) that autism is a genetic, predisposed or hereditary condition. Congenital and that there is only harm to be gained by not vaccinating your kids.

Parents: please get your kids vaccinated
Others: stop blaming parents for everything.

Okay vaccine tinfoilers, have fun with this one.

Increasing risk for whooping cough? A step in the right direction, according to Nature.

Well, I got my kids immunized for everything they had available. And they are smarter than I am. I just call that article "Darwin award nominees by proxy". Whooping cough is nothing to mess with.

(no offense to anyone who doesn't believe in vaccinating -- it's your right)

But yeah, good way to knock down the 'excess population' as Scrooge would say.

So do you think it is a good plan to discontinue vaccinations?

I think it should be available to anyone who wants it.

Won't that perpetuate overpopulation?

(btw, I agree with you, but I'm a Tragedy of the Commons )

I am not an anarchist if that's what you mean.

Typical illogical response from Mos, building up a straw man about you to make it seem silly.

I said have fun with it. I'm not going to engage in this debate other than to say that I trust the objectivity of the news article, and I acknowledge that most here automatically reject it since it doesn't jive with their ideology.

Possibly, but disease isn't the only way to keep the population down, nor are vaccines 100% effective. (and besides, I'm a physician, I'm a bit biased in this regard ... )

They used to vaccinate for hep b much later than newborn ... I'm not sure in that case if it really matters. Since I was working with indigent populations at the time and could conceivably bring home just about anything I thought it better to be proactive about it.

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The Council on Foreign Relations just had a symposium where they discussed the swine flu vaccination programs and the growing public resistance to vaccination. They state that they must combat these "crazy people" and that they could create a sense of vaccine shortage to trick J6P into panicking and rushing to vaccinate. This was released in a CFR audio blog.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=23a_1257107005

The "PANIC NOW!!" editing and effects are amusing, I thought.