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TITAN
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Post subject: THE Swine Flu Thread (merged) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:58 pm |
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thylacine wrote: Quote: The casus belli against Iran is about to be unveiled. You may call it the modern equivalent of Pearl Harbor, and it has already occurred without you even noticing. Iran is attacking us with air-delivered weapons of mass destruction, and we have no choice but to respond in kind. Unless we act immediately, the next wave of Iran's deadly chirping missiles will be launched in the next few weeks from the Iranian wetlands toward their targets in Scandinavia and Alaska, and from there will extend their deadly effect, killing millions throughout the Western world. Iran and Bird Flu: The Perfect Casus Belli? - by Jorge Hirsch Not exactly the 20th of March, I know, but this might be the start of the end of the world as we know it - forget the Bourse it's Geese of Mass Destruction! H5N1 is of no concern, it is a hoax. It is just another tool of fear this administration is using. I'd be more worried about the fact? that H1N1 is being shipped to strategic locations all over the U.S. To be released sometime in the next 2 years, thereby creating a reason for the emperor to proclaim a state of emergency for an indefinite amount of time...
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Post subject: Re: March 20 Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:16 am |
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TITAN wrote: H5N1 is of no concern, it is a hoax. It is just another tool of fear this administration is using. I'd be more worried about the fact? that H1N1 is being shipped to strategic locations all over the U.S. To be released sometime in the next 2 years, thereby creating a reason for the emperor to proclaim a state of emergency for an indefinite amount of time...
I find it interesting that so many people, myself included, fully believe the Bush adminitration will do ANYTHING necessary to maintain power. I honestly hope we are all wrong, but I keep asking myself where do "we the people" draw the line in the sand on these folks and what do we do once they've crossed it again, then we draw the next line which is crossed again, and again? I have concluded that most Americans are quite content in their mental slavery and won't even notice or care as long as their daily routine isn't inconvenienced too much.
A relevant line from the graphic novel turned movie V for Vendetta provides hope: "people shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." We'll see if "the people" can live up to their civic duty and remove these goons in the next election...if it's not rigged.
_________________ "One thing more dangerous than getting between a grizzly sow and her cub is getting between a businessman and a dollar bill." -Ed Abbey
Isn't it strange that the same people who laugh at gypsy fortune tellers take economists seriously?
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TonisD
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Post subject: Mexican Swine Flu Thread Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:46 am |
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Click hereLooks like something big might be happening just south of the US border. Cases already confirmed in US and Canada as well.
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:35 am |
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Quote: Hundreds of human cases of swine flu have been detected in Mexico, and the illness is suspected in 57 deaths in Mexico City, according to The World Health Organization, the Agence France-Presse reports. Several cases of swine flu among humans are also being investigated in the United States. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/health/24rounds.htmlYeah, does not sound like "the big one" but a novel little bug none the less. Quote: Seven cases of a previously undetected strain of swine flu have been confirmed in humans in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said. None of the patients had direct contact with pigs.
Five of the cases were found in California, and two in Texas, near San Antonio, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the CDC's interim deputy director for science and public health program.
The Mexican samples were to be tested at the centers based in Atlanta, Georgia, spokesman David Daigle told CNN by e-mail. He would not confirm that the samples were related to the respiratory outbreak, but said the CDC "understand Canada has samples, and is testing, and has placed a travel alert for travel to Mexico." http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/24/swine.flu/
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:00 am |
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Oh, and bets on what the red-neck, "it's all the illegal aliens fault" freaks are going to do with this story?
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Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
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Jotapay
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Post subject: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:08 am |
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Having a hard science degree, the news of this new flu virus seems a bit incredible to me. This flu virus, which has just popped up in Mexico and the USA, evidently has the genes of three different types of flu from three different regions around the world. The chances of one virus being built of parts from other viruses that are scattered around the world are slim to none, in my opinion. The geographical obstacles and mutation frequency required make statistical likelihood of this happening naturally very, very small, IMO. Quote: The CDC's Dr. Nancy Cox said virus samples from the seven appear to carry genes from swine flu, avian flu and human flu viruses from North America, Europe and Asia. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N23355101.htmhttp://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ ... CQ20090424
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:11 am |
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Bird flu in Egypt.
Swine flu in Mexico, moving into the US.
Could we be seeing the start of a pandemic.
My wife is a school RN, and she has been getting reports from the Gov. on being prepared for a flu pandemic.
Report says you should have at least a months supply of food and water at home if TSHTF.
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:18 am |
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Is this that one that looks genetically engineered?
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Post subject: Re: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:22 am |
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An update from Reuters:
WHO concerned at new swine flu in U.S. Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:57am BST
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) voiced concern on Friday at a confirmed outbreak of swine flu in the United States and what it called more than 800 human "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, including about 60 deaths.
The United Nations agency said it had activated its Strategic Health Operations Center (SHOC) -- its command and control center for acute public health events -- but could not say whether it was considering issuing a travel advisory.
U.S. public health officials said on Thursday that seven people had been diagnosed with a new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, while Mexican authorities were due to announce test results later on Friday, WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said in Geneva.
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An update from Reuters:
WHO concerned at new swine flu in U.S. Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:57am BST
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) voiced concern on Friday at a confirmed outbreak of swine flu in the United States and what it called more than 800 human "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, including about 60 deaths.
The United Nations agency said it had activated its Strategic Health Operations Center (SHOC) -- its command and control center for acute public health events -- but could not say whether it was considering issuing a travel advisory.
U.S. public health officials said on Thursday that seven people had been diagnosed with a new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, while Mexican authorities were due to announce test results later on Friday, WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said in Geneva.
"We are in daily contact with U.S., Canadian and Mexican authorities," Hartl told Reuters.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that the virus was a never-before-seen mixture of viruses typical among pigs, birds and humans. All 7 American patients had recovered.
WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said Mexican authorities had noticed unusual activity at the end of the flu season in March and April.
"To date there have been some 800 suspected cases with flu-like illness, with 57 deaths in the Mexico City area.
"Similar cases have since been found in San Luis Potosi in central Mexico. The number of suspected cases is 24 suspected cases and 3 deaths," she told a news briefing.
Mexican Health Minister Jose Angel Cordoba said that it was cancelling classes for millions of children in the heart of the country on Friday after influenza killed around 20 people in recent weeks. Mexico's flu season had extended for longer this year.
Reuters
Comment: 800 suspected cases and 57 deaths = 7.1% and that with appropriate medical care before the hospitals are overrun and sick people told to stay home and cope as best they can.
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Post subject: Re: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:23 am |
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Post subject: Re: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:24 am |
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US 'very concerned' about swine flu outbreak Apr 24 08:32 AM US/Eastern http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1 US medical authorities expressed strong concern Friday about an unprecedented multi-strain swine flu outbreak that has killed at least 60 people in Mexico and infected seven people in the United States. "It's very obvious that we are very concerned. We've stood up emergency operation centers," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) spokesman Dave Daigle told AFP. One major source of concern was that the virus included strains from different types of flu. "This is the first time that we've seen an avian strain, two swine strains and a human strain," said Daigle, adding that the virus had influenza strains from European and Asian swine, but not from North American swine. In 11 of 12 reported human cases of swine influenza (H1N1) virus infection in the United States from December 2005 to February 2009, the CDC has documented direct or indirect contact with swine. But the seven known cases of the previously undetected strain in the United States -- five from California and two from Texas -- did not have contact with pigs. The seven people infected have all recovered from the flu. "We have determined that this virus is contagious and is spreading from human to human," the CDC said on its website. "However, at this time, we have not determined how easily the virus spreads between people."
_________________ "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…"
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Gerben
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Post subject: Re: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:42 am |
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Jotapay wrote: Having a hard science degree, the news of this new flu virus seems a bit incredible to me. This flu virus, which has just popped up in Mexico and the USA, evidently has the genes of three different types of flu from three different regions around the world. The chances of one virus being built of parts from other viruses that are scattered around the world are slim to none, in my opinion. The geographical obstacles and mutation frequency required make statistical likelihood of this happening naturally very, very small, IMO. It's not about mutation. Virusses don't have sex, but they exchange genetic material with other virusses. So it's quite common for virusses to change their genetic make-up by combining different parts from different versions of the same virus. The 'from different parts of the world' is also confusing. Most flu virusses originate from Asia, because people there live close to each other and their animals. Perfect for virusses to meet each other and exchange genetic material. But 'from different parts of the world' does not mean they are not common elsewhere either.
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DoomWarrior
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Post subject: Re: Frankenstein-like flu virus appears Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:12 am |
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Is this virus more like Frankenstein, or Golem?
_________________ "Who wants to counteract paradise, Jim-boy?"
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Fishman
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:29 am |
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At peakoil, they are all geneticly engineered, created by Republican/Democrats, or jew/muslim, or some big world powers. If you don't believe this you are an idiot, or the enemy. If you do believe it then someone else believes you are the source.
_________________ Jefferson wrote, King George (see Obama) "erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."
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Tanada
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Post subject: Re: Possible major flu pandemic? Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:42 am |
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Fishman wrote: At peakoil, they are all geneticly engineered, created by Republican/Democrats, or jew/muslim, or some big world powers. If you don't believe this you are an idiot, or the enemy. If you do believe it then someone else believes you are the source. +1 +1 +1
_________________ Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to look out for himself honestly, It's when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying attention.
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