looks like my 8 year old has it now (something). He is soooo miserable. for ten days he has had strep throat, not responding to antibiotics, and then severe constipation (which we attribute to the anti-biotics, although the doctor says not). Then the last 24 hours, 101.8 fever, not changing. Hot and cold, delusional (he thinks the bed is full of sugar) sore throat, stomach ache (those have both been for ten days already). coughing. Bing took him to the doctor yesterday, blood and urine work, nothing there, doctor said his throat looked better than last Tuesday. back today.

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so forgive me if this has appeared somewhere along the line.

Here in Europe the view of the so-called swine flu 'pandemic' is very different to the one in the US. The health minister here in Spain has repeated endlessly that this particular strain of flu is MILDER i.e more benign than the average seasonal flu, and vaccination is recommended in exactly the same circumstances as the seasonal flu. In other words no mass vaccination is planned and there is no sign of massive infection.

In the UK the press is apparently openly questioning the wisdom of the hype over pandemics and the rush to vaccinate all and sundry. Very different to your US over reaction and kow towing to Big Pharma's lies and manipulation of everybody, beginning with the WHO and going on down thru politicians, pharmacists and apparently medics and health workers who now state as fact that the H1N1 virus is extremely dangerous and highly infectious.

The fact is that this H1N1 flu is not as mortal as other regular seasonal flus. The WHO actually changed the definition of pandemic in order to ease the mass vaccination programmes Big Pharma desires. And it seems the Ukraine strain which NO mass media is reporting outside of that country, is in fact nothing to do with the influenza virus at all, if it actually exsists.

Here's an interesting piece by (believe it or not, you can't make this stuff up) a Benedictine Nun who happens to be a family doctor, which nicely states all of the facts and exposes the unbelievable media manipulation and outright lies being repeated by health care officials and politicians all over the place:
http://www.vimeo.com/7298827

Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmZVPazHYqQ

Even after 2 years, you are still here and spinning the same BS as always. Things indeed never change.
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WHO today confirmed the same mutation around the world, that was first met in spring but kept under wraps for now. Meet D225G. The change to the virus that will probably kill you if you manage to make a one in a million deal and get infected by it. The mystery of the swine flu is solved. The usual sickness is basically your garden variety of flu with a small chance to kill people who are already very weak. But the mutation is different: it goes for your lungs and your body unleashes a cytokine storm. From this come the stories of lungs, that were black as ash. It really is not a real threat, atleast at this point as there has been only a handful of confirmed cases of the mutation in people. However, what is disturbing - the actions of WHO. First, they say that they have the results from Ukraine and there is no mutation. Then they wait for 2 weeks while saying nothing. And now we have a mutation in Ukraine. They knew about it from the start and said nothing. I guess the fact that H1N1 is now Tamiflu-resistant as well, did not help the cause.

What I find interesting TonisD, is that when I Google "WHO declares new swine flu mutation" to check your post, I get ZERO hits. Not too good at putting out the info, are they? On their web page itself, you shall find this so called 'mutation' is actually extremely rare and the information extremely sparse.

I trust the WHO about as far as I can spit (not far). Having altered the definition of pandemic to EXCLUDE mortality rate, it seems logical to assume the only reason for declaring a pandemic is a) to scare people into getting themsleves jabbed with expensive and untested vaccines which frequently have worse side effects than the original flu virus and b) to grant themsleves more power to mandate obligatory vaccinations which would of course please the Glaxo-Smith Kleins, Baxter's and all their share holders.

H1N1 is highly contagious but has a lower mortality than common seasonal flu. The seasonal flu shot does not guarrantee you won't come down with it,
and if you do, the chances of you succumbing to some more deadly 'strain' than your neighbour is largely up to your present state of health and immunity in general. The vast majority of deaths from the original 'new' swine flu variant have been due to complication arising from previous medical conditions. When this was becoming obvious, the WHO ordered countries to stop testing in the laboratory whether each death reported from the flu, was actually an H1N1 case. Therefore all flu related deaths this year are conflated by factors not related to the virus itself. The true number of Swine flu cases can not be known because no country is now testing for it in laboratory. We've simpy been told that everybody is dying from it.

The scare mongering reports of some kind of European Ebola errupting in the Ukraine are fabrications designed to keep people scared and buying more and more useless pharmaceutical drugs. But even more importantly, these reports are priming the politicians for an eventual shut down on a grand scale, enforcement of military law and the general erosion of basic rights and freedoms, with an invented pandemic as the overriding reason.

Eat your greens, get plenty of sunshine (Vitamin D) and your natural immunity should keep you alive, despite a probable dose of seasonal flu

Let's put it this way: I do not know anybody and my friends do not know anybody, who has died of flu. H1N1 will be the same.

I know someone who has died from it. He died in an Publix parking lot in his dad's arms.