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Russia Struggling To Expand Arctic Oil Production

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Oil production from Russia’s Arctic region increased in 2017 as new onshore developments and the only offshore producing platform ramped up production. But challenges in Russia’s arctic remain.

Last year, production from onshore fields in Yamal-Nenets autonomous region in northern Russia contributed the most to the rise in oil production in the Arctic. Output from the only producing offshore oil field — Prirazlomnoye — also increased in 2017. And Russia has ambitions to continue to develop its Arctic oil resources.

Russia’s ambitions, however, are not without challenges; it must contend with several factors that, for now, are preventing it from fully developing its offshore Arctic oil potential. For starters, U.S. sanctions prohibit the exports of goods, services, or technology that Russia needs to support exploration or production in Russia’s deepwater, Arctic offshore, or shale projects — all which have the potential to produce oil. Another obstacle is that only state-controlled giants Gazprom and Rosneft have access and licenses to operate in the offshore Arctic, and they are not keen on cooperating with local private companies with relevant experience.

Nevertheless, Russia had a good year in the Arctic. Oil production in the Yamal-Nenets autonomous region is expected to have increased by 13.4 percent year on year in 2017, thanks to rising production at new onshore oil and condensate fields and increased crude oil shipments from Gazprom Neft’s Novy Port project via the Arctic Gates oil terminal, the government of the Yamal-Nenets autonomous region said earlier this month. Gas production in the region is expected to have increased by 6.7 percent last year compared to the previous year.

 

In addition, at the end of last year, Vladimir Putin officially launched the $27 billion Yamal LNG project in the Arctic. Russia’s second LNG plant intended to challenge the dominance of Qatar and Australia — and perhaps the U.S. in the future — on the global LNG market.

Gazprom Neft, the oil arm of gas giant Gazprom, said in its preliminary 2017 results at the end of December that its total oil and gas production had increased by 4.2 percent compared to 2016, mostly due to the development of major new projects in the Arctic. The Novoportovskoye field, the Vostochno-Messoyakhskoye field — the northernmost onshore field in Russia — and the offshore Prirazlomnoye field contributed the most to production growth in 2017, Gazprom Neft said.

At the end of last year, Russia’s largest oil company, Rosneft, struck a new joint venture with BP, which is a 20-percent shareholder in Rosneft, to jointly develop the reserves of two license blocks in the Yamal-Nenets autonomous region — Kharampursky and Festivalny — which hold a combined 880 billion cubic meters of natural gas.

Despite growing its Arctic oil production and the government vowing to develop the region, sanctions and the unwillingness of Gazprom and Rosneft to cooperate with private Russian companies prevent Russia from fully exploring its vast Arctic oil and gas resources, Stanislav Pritchin wrote in an article published on Monday.

The Russian zone of the Arctic has the largest share, and its potential reserves are some 48 billion barrels of oil and 43 trillion cubic meters of natural gas. The only offshore production field, Prirazlomnoye, is a relatively easy platform to develop because it is close to the coast and not in very deep waters, Pritchin says.

But sanctions are preventing Russia from partnering with Western companies that have the know-how and technology to drill in Arctic waters. Apart from externally imposed restrictions, Russia has one self-imposed hurdle — only Gazprom and Rosneft have access to the Arctic shelf.

While sanctions are unlikely to be lifted soon, with increasingly tense relations between Russia and the West, part of the solution could be if the two state-controlled giants partnered with private Russian firms with more experience in subsea development, Pritchin argues

“But while that is not recognized, Russia is losing much-needed private investment and the opportunity to exploit its potential Arctic riches,” the expert says.

By Tsvetana Paraskova for Oilprice.com



141 Comments on "Russia Struggling To Expand Arctic Oil Production"

  1. Mad Kat on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 3:09 am 

    Russia is moving foreword:

    “Cambodia is Turning Towards Russia”
    “Russia Strengthens its Position in Bangladesh Through Energy”
    “Russian and Japan are Building Up the Economic Co-operation”
    “Russia’s Interests in Oceania”
    “Trend of Inter-Regional Cooperation of Russia and China”
    “The Huge Implications of Russia’s Northern Sea Route”
    “Russia China Build Up A New Economic Geography”
    https://journal-neo.org/

    Power moving East…

  2. deadly on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 4:55 am 

    In the beginning, those Texans drilling for oil were from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, places like that. Anywhere west of the Mississippi was believed to be dry of oil.

    Then Spindletop happened, Beaumont was on the map. Land sold for one million dollars per acre. Texaco, Gulf Oil, Union Oil, new names in the oil bidness were born.

    The export market shipped forty percent of US oil.

    Capitalism Vindicated

    When copious amounts of natural gas were discovered in Pennsylvania here a few years ago, Oklahomans were in Pennsylvania showing everyone how it is done. I read it in the paper online.

    Fossil fuels are not going to go away soon.

    Get use to it.

    It’s Friday and Ground hog Day, so you can drink all day long.

  3. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 5:17 am 

    “I decided that they are not worth reading or a reply. I no longer waste my time on loser, delusional people as they. Perhaps, if all of us ignore them, they will fade away.”

    LMFAO, I have heard that shit before. Suits me fine it give me more time to do other things and less time showing how pathetic you are.

  4. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 5:24 am 

    “Russia is moving foreword:”

    Links please sloppy billy.

  5. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 5:34 am 

    Neder, I thought everything was golden in Deutschland? LOL. Looks like it’s not only Italian banks with an ass pucker problem.
    “There’s No Silver Lining”: Deutsche Bank Tumbles On Abysmal Earnings”
    https://tinyurl.com/ybtlqsw4

    “It is safe to say that after years of disappointment, investor expectations were low ahead of today’s Deutsche Bank earnings report. Yet somehow, the biggest German lender failed to beat even the most pessimistic one. Deutsche Bank, which had already guided for a slump, shocked markets when revenue that missed the lowest estimate and fell to the lowest in seven years amid declines at businesses from transaction banking to equity derivatives, and pretty much everything else. Even cost control – supposedly a key feature of CEO John Cryan’s tenure – was worse than expected. The company also reported a €1.3 billion loss for Q4, which while better than the company’s disastrous report last year, was €100mm worse than the lowest forecast and far worse than the consensus loss of €478mm.”

  6. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 5:49 am 

    More on the trap that is the European banking system:
    “Italian Banks Are Dumping Italian Sovereign Debt To The ECB Ahead Of The Election”
    https://tinyurl.com/ycr75p38

    “At the turn of the year, and just over 2 months ahead of the Italian elections on March 4, we presented a stunning observation from Citi, one suggesting that even before any potential political risk emerges in March, private investors had long ago fallen out of love with Italian BTPs and had taken to the hills. As illustrated in the chart below, just about every other major investor type has become a net seller (to the ECB) or a non-buyer of BTPs over the last couple of years. Said differently, for well over a year, the only marginal buyer of Italian bonds has been the ECB (dark blue).”

    “On one hand, this is good news as it suggests that Europe’s “doom loop” is finally breaking. Recall that the biggest risk facing Europe in the 2011-2013 period was the surging purchases of their own sovereign debt by local banks, which were too afraid to put money into other non-backstopped assets. And, according to some, the resultant record holdings is one of the reasons why the ECB launched QE: to send the prices of European sovereign bonds soaring, unblocking European bank balance sheets and allowing the traditional credit machinery to work again. The flip side is that while European banks have been selling sovereign bonds, they have been shifting the proceeds into other, far riskier assets, assets which will tumble the moment the market prices in the departure of the ECB as Europe’s buyer of last resort. And while it is unclear how long until that moment of epiphany occurs, keep an eye on Italian banks and their BTP holdings: once the reduction reverses, and banks start bidding up, it’s safe to assume that Draghi’s next QE program can’t be too far behind. As for the political risk, and potential fallout from the upcoming Italian elections, fear not: by now the ECB is surely one of the biggest owners of Italian bonds, and if something unexpected happens, well Draghi will always pull something out of his sleeve, “whatever it takes.”

  7. Anonymouse1 on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 6:29 am 

    If no one pays any attention to your rambling, paranoid diatribes, what makes you think think anyone would read your Cut&Pastes? Wishful thinking?

  8. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 6:37 am 

    Here is the Chinese banking trap. Evidence is mounting that China will have to do something with a disequilibrium in its capital markets. Its credit reflation which started in 2016 was the backstop to the global economy recently. This has begun to wind down and there is the efforts at PBC with controls on credit excesses that seem contradictory with reflation efforts. This is bad news for the global economy because China is the main global reflation source. It is possible the fiscal loosening in the US will help. Europe is showing good business activity. The key though is China. Nowhere is the amount of credit reflation so great and important to the global economy.
    “Chinese Liquidity Crunch Begins As Stocks Sink: Bankers Begging Friends For Deposits On WeChat”
    https://tinyurl.com/ybgowkjt

    “On the one hand, the news suggests credit growth was solid in January, but is also suggests the financial system is hitting some hard limits as credit growth outpaces deposits. The highlighted portion confirms Jeffrey Snider’s description of the current state of affairs as a “dollar” or eurodollar problem. The Chinese banking system is starved for dollars.”

    “The yuan is a problem at USDCNY 6.3 and USDCNY 6.9 because China has a massive credit bubble. At one end, the deflationary impact of a rising yuan and at the other, the risk of a major devaluation. In the middle is the Goldilocks exchange rate, not too strong to trigger debt default, not too weak to trigger outflows. USDCNY 6.3 in the current environment is too strong. The PBoC is also pinned in this range. Loosen capital controls to let the yuan weaken, exacerbate the liquidity crunch in the banking system and risk uncontrolled depreciation/capital flight. Let the yuan strengthen and risk a credit crisis. Further reverse yuan internationalization and set the yuan price, but risk an economic response from the United States.”

    “Takeaway China bought two years with its 2016 reflation, aborting a global slowdown stemming from its last decision to slow credit growth. This growth cycle has completed and is turning down again. If history rhymes, there’s going to be some significant negative news out of China in March. If that happens, the clock will start ticking on the next global deflationary wave. The conventional wisdom about equities, interest rates, inflation and emerging markets is wrong again, just as it was in 2011 and 2014.”

  9. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 6:39 am 

    Madkat said Russia gets closer with Cambodia and Bangladesh! LOL Who gives a shit about those shit hole countries! LOL All from a fringe site! LOL

  10. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 6:45 am 

    “If no one pays any attention to your rambling, paranoid diatribes, what makes you think think anyone would read your Cut&Pastes? Wishful thinking?”

    Just like your cousin greggie you are irrelevant unless you can say something intelligent annoying mouse 1. You have not done that for a least a month or two. Stalking and pricking Americans is not intelligent unless you can back it up with intelligent talk. Remember when I spanked you when you tried to tell everyone here Canadian tar sands where American tar sands? greggie jump into that one too and he got spanked. You west coast Canadians are getting pretty lame now that Ape man has flown the coop. Or did ape man check out what was over the cliff? His primary message was cliff jumping as a personal solution.

  11. Boat on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 10:09 am 

    Mak,

    I am sure when N Korea sent missiles over Japan the japanese were pleased with Russia who continues to support Kim Jun Ummmmm. Vietnam invites Tillerson and an aircraft carrier to visit.

  12. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 10:33 am 

    Boat

    How do you know they shot missiles over Japan? According to the MSM who has been told by the Pentagon! People like you are the reason we have endless wars now! Unable to question the propaganda and demand evidence before coming to a conclusion!

  13. Boat on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 10:46 am 

    MM

    You have a problem keeping up with current events. Try google before commenting. Don’t forget to add the year like 2018. With all those classes to get a piece of paper you would think they would teach you to google.

  14. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:04 am 

    Boat

    Do you never learn to question the government or media and demand evidence before you come to a conclusion? The government and the Media burned their trust card with the WMD lie and Iraq!

  15. GregT on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:06 am 

    “Remember when I spanked you when you tried to tell everyone here Canadian tar sands where American tar sands?”

    Tar sands production, and you were provided with links, that you obviously refused to read.

  16. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:07 am 

    Boat

    Only Morons Believe What The US Government Says About North Korea

    Political IQ test: What does it mean when CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and the President’s Twitter account all agree that a foreign state poses a suddenly increased threat to America?

    A) If they all agree it must be true!

    B) Well I dislike some of those outlets, but I trust one of them.

    C) The US intelligence community would never lie to us.

    D) Hmm… this sounds an awful lot like the leadup to Iraq?

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/only-morons-believe-what-the-us-government-says-about-north-korea-3d5a5157cea2

    Think critically and demand evidence!

  17. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:13 am 

    US democracy is at risk if Americans stay socially polarized, research firm says

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/us-democracy-at-risk-warns-economist-intelligence-unit.html

  18. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:14 am 

    US democracy is at risk until we beat the fascists back to 1945 where they belong

    https://imgur.com/a/FYsPl

  19. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 11:42 am 

    “Tar sands production, and you were provided with links, that you obviously refused to read.”

    Provide them pussy. We know Americans own tar sand investments but who sold them and made handsome profits? Which government is taxing them. Also tell the story of the other nationalities there. OH, BTW, how about all those Canadians working there in those mines. What a fruit loop!

  20. GregT on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 12:06 pm 

    “We know Americans own tar sand investments but who sold them and made handsome profits? Which government is taxing them. Also tell the story of the other nationalities there. OH, BTW, how about all those Canadians working there in those mines.”

    The topic was Tar Sands production, and yes, governments at all levels and Canadian workers have benefited, and there are other nationalities who have ownership of tar sands production.

    You have made your agenda very clear Davy, and when one has such an agenda, the mind becomes closed.

  21. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:01 pm 

    Fruit loops, you can’t change the subject then say that is the topic. That is how slimy individuals operate. Your agenda is self promotion and anything anti-American. You are rabidly extremist and this is the reason you can’t be dealt with except by being neutered. Anyone who has the bold face to try to pawn off tar sands responsibility on Americans is missing a screw. I am not saying Americans are not responsible. I am saying this is Canadian first then with American participation.

  22. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:06 pm 

    Davy

    Nice points I agree..Keep in mind Greg never sources any evidence for what he argues with leaves you with no reasons to believe anything he says. And he lies, he said his wife weighs a 100 lbs and runs marathons and has a PhD..Do you really believe a 100 lb woman with a PhD at his age would marry and move into the woods with a paranoid doomsday perepper?

  23. GregT on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:32 pm 

    “Your agenda is self promotion and anything anti-American. You are rabidly extremist and this is the reason you can’t be dealt with except by being neutered.”

    More of the usual delusional accusations. It is you who has an agenda. Everything to you is either American, or anti-American. I couldn’t care less about nationalism, other than I see it as a huge part of all of humanity’s problems.

  24. Anonymouse1 on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:48 pm 

    Sorry, dumbass, I only remember things that actually occur. Your alt-reality version(s) of events are not something I ‘remember’ at all. Imagine that! Better luck next time flogging that dead horse, moron.

  25. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:50 pm 

    Davy

    Greg isn’t playing with a full deck! That is what happens when you leave the ship of fools! Literally!

  26. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:54 pm 

    “More of the usual delusional accusations. It is you who has an agenda. Everything to you is either American, or anti-American. I couldn’t care less about nationalism, other than I see it as a huge part of all of humanity’s problems.”

    shut up silly greggie and the topic is Canadian oil sands denial. Got it, dumbass

  27. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 1:56 pm 

    “Sorry, dumbass, I only remember things that actually occur. Your alt-reality version(s) of events are not something I ‘remember’ at all. Imagine that! Better luck next time flogging that dead horse, moron.”

    Shut up pussy and say something intelligent for once. The topic is Canadian oil sands denial by dumbass Canadians.

  28. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 2:05 pm 

    Studies of mice populations indicate that when faced with overpopulation, many catastrophic events occurred. Such as the mothers abandoned their young, the birth rate plunged, homosexuality, mass violence, cannibalism, and lack of maternal functions. Studies revealed as the mice population densities reached a tipping point. Once reached, the population began to suffer a “spiritual death” and went down a “behavioral sink”. (Calhoun, 1962)

    http://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2428&context=open_access_etds

  29. Anonymouse1 on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 2:08 pm 

    LoL, what a dumbass. On, newflash(for dumbasses only), the tar-sands actually do exist. I am not sure who you think denies that they do, but it actually does exist, in, you know, the real world. Something you parted company with some time ago. If you like, I can provide references , you know links, pictures, video even. On second thought, why bother. Mentally and emotionally, you are too far gone to process information like a normal human. But I can assure you dumbass, that the tar sands do exist. Try and find that other dumbass that denies they do and you and him can talk about that months, years if you feel the need.

    Or did you imagine that as well?

    Dumbass.

  30. Davy on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 2:12 pm 

    Stupid mellinial Canadian waste case the subject is denial by stupid Canadians like you that deny Tar Sands are a Canadian responsibility. You live a deadly serious lie of anti-Americanism so much so you can’t even except basic responsibilities. Pathetic

  31. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 2:46 pm 

    Davy

    Greg is paranoid about the weather changing as well! He wants to stop the “Rising of the seas’s”..And he thinks humans can! LOL the hubris!

  32. rockman on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 3:49 pm 

    deadly – So true: the tech and the bodies move to wherever the next play develops. When I started drilling hz wells in the offshore GOM in 1994 most of my direction drillers were from Scotland. They were drilling complex directional well plans in the North Sea no one in the US thought was possible.

  33. Mad Kat on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 5:15 pm 

    More on Russia’s increase in power and influence.

    “Russian Navy ship group starts 5-day visit to Vietnam” … “A group of three ships under the Russia’s Pacific Fleet arrived at a key port facility in Vietnam on Thursday as part of their 5-day visit to the country, a reminder of the increased collaboration in defense and maritime security between the two strategic partners. … The visit is expected to continue enhancing Vietnam-Russia comprehensive strategic partnership, including the ties in defense and navy.”

    “Vietnam recently placed orders with Russia for six Kilo-class submarines and Su-30MK2 naval fighter-bombers in its naval modernization drive.

    The country is expecting to receive two Russian Gepard frigates, set to be delivered in the second half of 2017.” (4/2017)

    https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/russian-navy-ship-group-starts-5-day-visit-to-vietnam-3577268.html

    “Russian Navy commander arrives in Vietnam on working visit …The visit was organized on an invitation from the Vietnamese side,…” (12/2017)

    http://tass.com/defense/979279

    Russia is moving back to Vietnam and Cam Ranh Bay.

    “Good Morning Vietnam! Why the Russian Navy is Returning to Cam Ranh Bay”

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201605191039907645-russia-return-vietnam-military-base-analysis/

    Russia is moving out and up. The US, in and down. Go for it Putin!

  34. MASTERMIND on Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 6:12 pm 

    Madkat is sharing Russian propaganda now! LOL Sputniknews? LOL Boy they are brainwashing you good Madkat! Little by little piece by piece! Just wait till those 3 am flashes happen of Moscow and at Putins palace! LOL

  35. Cloggie on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 1:45 am 

    In the 16th century the Dutch explorer Willem Barents sought to discover the sea route from Europe to Asia, north of Siberia, but stranded in the ice of Nova Zembla:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Barentsz

    He at least got the Barents Sea named after him.

    Now with global warming Barents’ dream might become reality after all. China is planning a Polar Silk Road:

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/02/polar-silk-road-china-plans-deeper-collaboration-russia-arctic-will-affect-future-conflict-arctic-resources/

  36. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 2:01 am 

    Don’t you remember your own global warming denialist talking points cloggen-zimmer? You know, that global warming is a commie, bolshevik hoax? Pretty bad when the faux green, zionist fraud cant keep his own mutually contradictory horseshit straight.

  37. Cloggie on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 4:12 am 

    I never denied thermometer readings, Uncle Tom and hence do not deny global warming. What I do deny is that some here have accurate knowledge about the alleged catastrophic nature of global warming. My attitude, in line with EU policies and Paris Accords, is to move over to renewables as fast as possible. We’ll see if that is enough or not.

    If I were forced to put my money on the future of global warming, it would be on “global lukewarming”.

    Garantie tot aan de deurklink.
    (Guarantee until the door handle)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCcLggcPcj0

    P.S: what is undisputed is that extra CO2 acts like fertilizer, currently causing global greening. So not everything is bad. Canada is getting “lush” as we speak.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/08/global-greening-has-slowed-rise-of-co2-in-the-atmosphere-study-finds

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

    So far I had to scratch my window shield only once this “winter season”, yesterday. I like global warming. Folks in Africa and India are excused to have different opinions.

  38. MASTERMIND on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 4:50 am 

    Clogg

    My attitude, in line with EU policies and Paris Accords, is to move over to renewables as fast as possible.

    UC Davis Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q

    University of Chicago Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117

    Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
    https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf

    Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
    https://imgur.com/k7VecMq

  39. Davy on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 4:54 am 

    “Canada is getting “lush” as we speak.”

    nedernazi, You forgot to mention the part of Canada that is on fire where silly greggie lives.

  40. deadly on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 6:21 am 

    Canada is green all the way to The Yukon. Every inch of the way there is grass and trees all the way as you go.

    An absolutely beautiful place to visit, but you don’t want to live there, there’s Canadians there. lol

    Once you get far enough north into British Columbia, it is easy to see the green lushness never ceases.

    Even farther north, you run into glaciers.

    Once you are in The Yukon though, there is forest mile after mile. It reminds you of the Appalachians, when you think about it.

    Johnson’s Crossing is a great place.

    It is as green as anyplace else on this planet, plenty of wildlife too. You see caribou on the highway, you darn near have to stop. Mount Robson, Muncho Lake, the Peace River Valley, all beautiful places to see. Jasper, Banff, all nice spots to help your psyche. Lake Louise, spectacular!

    During early August in The Yukon, it will be 3 am in the morning and it is daytime light.

    You walk to the creek and there are bear tracks less than three hours old.

    An amazing place to be when you are way up north. When you see a forest fire burning, you know it is going to burn, there is not enough manpower to fly that far north to extinguish the conflagration. The fire burns until it doesn’t. Nobody there to fight it, you don’t leave your vehicle to fight the fire, you keep driving.

    You can’t imagine what it is like until you see it. Mount Logan, places like that, it is spellbinding.

    The sights are not soon to be forgotten. Of course, you have to take the goat trails to see it all.

    When you get to Alaska, you can’t believe your lying eyes.

    Even the Alaskan Pipeline is a sight to behold.

  41. JuanP on Sat, 3rd Feb 2018 6:35 am 

    Cloggie, I agree with you that we don’t know how global warming will play out. I congratulate you on your efforts to use more renewable energy and consuming less energy. I read your comments on the subject with great interest and you have posted many links that I have found interesting. We don’t agree on everything, but you add value to this place when you focus on the issues. I am less optimistic in my outlook than you are, but I understand that I am just expressing my own personal opinions and that I am not the owner of the truth. I like the diversity of opinions expressed here. I have learnt much from the other regulars through the years.

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