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AFO
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Curious to know if any one has come across on a study regarding Non-OPEC peak oil.

I think this topic is more serious than World Oil peak.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

AFO,

It has been discussed. Oil and Gas Journal had several articles on it a few years ago. You may want to search them online to retrieve them. I did post them here at one time, but don't rememeber the forum - you might try the Opec peak production forum under "depletion." You may also try the Saudi Production thread.

However, from memory, the two articles in the O&G Journal both said the "cross-over" event would be anywhere from 2007 - 2012, most likely about 2009. Cross-over being that time when Opec production exceeds non-opec production.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I discussed non-opec peak separately in my report from novemer 2005 which you can download here:

http://www.peakoil.nl/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/asponl_2005_report.pdf

I possibly was slightly pessimistic there, (non-opec peak in 2008). could be a little bit later.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If the non-OPEC peak is not until 2008, then how does it make sense that so many believe we are already past the global peak? If non-OPEC hasn't peaked, and OPEC hasn't peaked, then the world hasn't peaked. Right?

The concensus among the posts that I have read on peakoil.com seems to be that non-OPEC will peak prior to OPEC.

I might just have to look up production figures to figure this thing out now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

JoeW,

This depends on whether one considers all liquids or just crude oil also Smile

Whether we have peaked now or not, there is no consensus about that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Non-Opec oil peak discussion Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Opec versus non-opec is an artificial distinction. You could also calculate Non-Opec/Non FSU production in which case peak is probably yesterday.
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