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ritter Tar Sands

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Joined: Oct 14, 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: "romantic" preparations? |
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Hi all,
First post. Great site, lots of useful brainstorming ideas here! Been lurking for a few weeks.....
Anyway, a question I have that doesn't seem to be addressed in all of the planning scenarios is birth control. My wife and I have one daughter, may go for a second at some point. But if things get bad, as in SHTF bad (i.e., no easy access doctors or drugs, pills, condoms, etc.), what are you all going to do for protection? And I'm not talking guns here!
I am asking this hoping for some serious responses. I like my wife and have always been into "family planning," so to speak.
Thanks and hope I can become a useful contributor.
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Kooka Heavy Crude

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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| ritter wrote: | | I like my wife... |
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rogerhb Master


Joined: Sep 06, 2004 Posts: 5315 Location: Smalltown New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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There is a small op that can be done that ensures no more extra mouths at the dinner table. _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken |
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mgibbons19 Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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snikp snip.
About the cost of two years of pills, or paid for by your insurance. Want another first? Start practing now?  |
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cynthia Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:55 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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Google Natural Family Planning or Ovulation/Fertility awareness.
Avoid the Rhythm Method.The people who practice that for Birth Control are called Parents. Avoid BC pills. They are toxic.
Germaine Greer said the withdrawal method was effective for preventing pregnancy. I caught a barnfull of crap for suggesting we explore this amongst the Natural Family Planning women I studied with 20 years ago (and I've not tried it myself since I don't want any more kids).
I have used Fertility Awareness (FA) to avoid pregnancy for the past 16 years. I've combined my FA with the same partner (We are of proven combined fertility) for 16+ years using a condom. We don't have unprotected sex between menses and ovulation. After ovulation has occured and at least three or more days of appropriate mucus symptoms (That I won't even risk explaining here. Do your own research) only then do we have condom-free sex, which I admit is the best...
Look around, the information is there.
And are you sure you want to bring another child into this world? No judgement. I'm glad I have two children, but I had them long before I understood how dire things are. I am 47 and looking forward to THE CHANGE.
Also, fertility awareness information works for both achieving and avoiding pregnacy.
Please tell me you are into home births. |
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Evltre Heavy Crude

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:11 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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| cynthia wrote: | | I am 47 and looking forward to THE CHANGE. |
Still be careful - my poor mother got stung 2 years into THE CHANGE - thought she was in the clear having not had any signs of ovulation or period for over a year - thought she had the flu and was 16 weeks preggers....I have a 7 year old brother....he and my son are great mates!
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Evltre Heavy Crude

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Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Posts: 213 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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and to add my two cents worth to the original question - if you plan to have another maybe you should consider doing it sooner rather than later, while the going is good. No one here has a crystal ball and truly knows how things will pan out over the next few years - but it may or may not be as safe in the future as it is right now (and please no one turn this into one of those awful you're going to have to eat your children parent bashing threads)
Pregnancy and birth used to kill a lot of mothers, and their babies and there is a lot we take for granted in our modern lives - safe child birth IMO is way up there on the list!
Then I would certainly agree with other posters here - snip snip once your done with the kids - it's the easiest way - and safer for you than your wife.
oh - and Welcome aboard  |
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Doly Expert


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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:23 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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| I seriously doubt that contraception will become a problem. A lot of things would need to go wrong before the pill stopped being available. Expensive medicine will have to go before cheap medicine (such as the pill) goes. |
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katkinkate Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1237 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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If you have access to lemons, slice one in half, remove the pulp from one half and use the skin shell like a diaphragm. The skin shell cups the cervix and acts as a physical barrier as well as chemical as the lemon kills sperm (and even some STD's). _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12559 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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My husband and I are very much in favor of the vasectomy! Surely one of the miracles of modern medical science.  _________________ No original ideas are contained in this post. |
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6559 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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ritter Tar Sands

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Joined: Oct 14, 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:17 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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@ all: Thanks for all the replies. I guess I was just wondering if anybody had a stash of condoms next to the 200#s of rice, flour and beans.
@ cynthia: I will definitely go for the snip but timing is everything. I thought we had decided to be a one child family (our daughter is 2), but recently my wife has been giving me the tap on the shoulder (you know the one ) and talking about a second. I do not have sufficient conviction to deny her if our situation permits a second child and she really wants one (hey, I sure do love my daughter and am sure I would love a second as well). Besides, while I believe in preparation and have an overwhelming sense things in the world are going downhill, I do not intend to live my life from under a rock. I will continue to dream about the future, even if I do worry more about it now than I did in my 20s.
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lyrl Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 14, 2005 Posts: 38 Location: Midwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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I'm a fan of the fertility awareness methods (effective, no side effects, easily reversible), so I thought I'd post a link to the Wikipedia article on them:
Fertility Awareness |
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frankthetank Fusion


Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4454 Location: Southwest WI
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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Ritter~
Older guy i use to work with said that his uncle always kept a roll of plastic food wrap and rubber bands under the front seat of his car. Could be a possibility?
Although he went on to tell me the guy ended up having 5 kids...so buyer beware. |
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ritter Tar Sands

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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: Re: "romantic" preparations? |
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| frankthetank wrote: | Ritter~
Older guy i use to work with said that his uncle always kept a roll of plastic food wrap and rubber bands under the front seat of his car. Could be a possibility?
Although he went on to tell me the guy ended up having 5 kids...so buyer beware. |
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