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SolarDave
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think this is an extremely clever idea, combining internet, solar, finance, and "sunshine physics" into a nice, easy to adopt package.

Solar Energy For All

Smart! Maximize the value and energy payback (EROEI) of the panels, but displace the benefits and costs. Chunk it up to make it affordable, too!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Then I guess the Sahara would make for the ideal spot? Heck, if we can get a Trans-Atlantic (and Pacific) cable down, why not?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And in 20 years the PV panels still have 10 to 30 + years of life in them, and I paid for them up front, and no longer get the benefit of them. Better to buy them and install them yourself.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I can see advantages in "purchasing" solar panels to be installed in another location if you rent or are in a location with a reliable supply of solar energy.

But many questions exist, such as, what is the long term financial viability of the plan? They are asking for thousands of dollars, possibly around $20K to cover electricity needs for a typical US household. Can this plan guarantee to pay your electric bill for 20 years, especially if you happen to depend on electricity generated by non-renewable sources? What if electricity costs skyrocket due to shortages of coal and natural gas?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

from their website:

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Each panel produces an average output of 15kWh per year.


How small are these "panels"? I work it out to 41 watts a day (enough to run a small light-bulb for 1 hour) or an output 5 watts per hour 8 hours a day.

$16,000 (55 euros per panel) will buy you 1 kw of capacity (assuming 8 hours sunlight). Isn't $16 a watt a little bit much for solar? Especially if you only get 20 years worth of use.

A quick google search of the company (solarpower4all) doesn't give me much. The company has a nice website, there is a cheesy utube video, and a poster named "solarpower4all" spamming multiple sites with cut and paste over the last 6 weeks. That all that google can tell me about this "company".

I've got nothing against generating giga-watts of solar-power in the lower latitudes of the world, but I think I am going to hold off on purchasing any of their "solar energy certificates".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Power here, Solar there... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

SolarDave wrote:
I think this is an extremely clever idea, combining internet, solar, finance, and "sunshine physics" into a nice, easy to adopt package.



You may want to get out more. Some snakeoil salesmen had a better line of BS than the site.
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