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JohnDenver
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Economics forum Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

To improve the readability of the site, I think it would be good to have an economics forum. I realize economists are persona non grata around here, but a more economist-friendly atmosphere might benefit everyone. Anyway, it would be nice if the economics threads weren't all mixed in haphazardly with the others.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Economics forum Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

JohnDenver wrote:
To improve the readability of the site, I think it would be good to have an economics forum. I realize economists are persona non grata around here, but a more economist-friendly atmosphere might benefit everyone. Anyway, it would be nice if the economics threads weren't all mixed in haphazardly with the others.


Dan and I have talked about it. Stay tuned.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Economics forum Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

JohnDenver wrote:
To improve the readability of the site, I think it would be good to have an economics forum. I realize economists are persona non grata around here, but a more economist-friendly atmosphere might benefit everyone. Anyway, it would be nice if the economics threads weren't all mixed in haphazardly with the others.


I've made the suggestion as well. An economics forum should be included just as we have one for the geological aspects of depletion.

But I don't think it fair to say that economists are unwelcome. Granted, we often make snide comments about economists, but that is primarily about the economists who do not accept that an economy is embedded within a physical environment that is subject to physical laws.

In fact, many of the cornucopians are not even economists. They bring a mixed bag of backgrounds.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:04 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I agree.

While PO at its core IS about the economy, and it’s hard to talk about any aspect of PO without talking about the economy, there are many other factors - the infamous “balloons”, which may seem unrelated to a casual observer but may be severely affected by steep, quick oil price increases.

I think a separate area where these are discussed would make the site appear less of a Doomer Getto and a better PO resource for the newcomer.


Then we can go on to meteors, pole-shift and the Illuminati, LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I also support the idea.
Every day I have to delve into more and more "junk" to get to the "serious stuff" (like my unnoticed and excellent last post, Sad )
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I second this motion, economic discussions help to keep PO in perspective for me. I want to hear from the cornucopians as well as the doomers. Generally some where in between exists reality.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And a post about basic concepts of economy, for those of us that didn't know a word about it before we became aware of the issues, would be very helpful.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I agree.

Economics is the hearth of peak-oil.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Two ideas. One is to split the Planning forum into "Lifestyle Planning" and "Investment Planning"

The other idea is just a brand new "Economics" forum.

This will probably happen in the next month. Comment now on what you'd like to see.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

admin wrote:
Two ideas. One is to split the Planning forum into "Lifestyle Planning" and "Investment Planning"

The other idea is just a brand new "Economics" forum.

This will probably happen in the next month. Comment now on what you'd like to see.


I vote for an Economics forum that parallels Planning, Geopolitics, Current Events, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There are lots of posts on investments, but maybe “Investment Planning” is too limiting for general economics discussions, especially for those of us with our fortunes already committed …

Perhaps two new forums are too much but:

Investment Planning

And

Peak Oil Economics

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