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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Do we speak ...... ¿Latin .......? drunken_smilie


Sure, just a very late version of it that the Emperor Trajan (who was, after all, from Spain...) would have found a little thick and provincial. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is not cooperating with U.S. anti-terror efforts and has "deepened Venezuelan relationships with state sponsors of terrorism Iran and Cuba," the annual report says.


What utterly astounds me is that the United States, which has been and continues to be the largest supporter and exporter of state terrorism in the history of mankind -- even according to their own narrow and self-serving definitions if they were only honest enough to look in the mirror -- has the gall to publish a report like this. What's next, criticizing China for sanctioning executions?


Indeed they are, and so are the french, the britts and even the venezu ....... errr, hugo chavez thru his personalistic project ....... or at least that´s what he thinks of it. Still I don´t know how they have pushed this OBL stunt as far as it has gotten already but, I guess, ignorance ought to play a good role into that.

However, two wrongs will never make it right ...... ¿¿right??
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Indeed they are, and so are the french, the britts and even the venezu ....... errr, hugo chavez


Yeah, right, so why single Chavez, errr, Venezuela out? Seems to me it's all one and the same thing. The only difference is, if Chavez were funding "friendly" terrorists (in Washington's estimation of "friendly"), he wouldn't be on the list.

Gross hypocrisy.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The golden rule is to complain mostly for those shoes harming your own feet ......
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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The golden rule is to complain mostly for those shoes harming your own feet ......


Yes, but one should recognize that others have feet and their particular cruel shoes as well.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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The golden rule is to complain mostly for those shoes harming your own feet ......


Yes, but one should recognize that others have feet and their particular cruel shoes as well.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And that was so important I had to say it twice. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yep ..... but they won´t fight over my shoes. Not in firsts of instances, I mean. >wink<
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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"Es extremadamente perturbador ver al gobierno de Venezuela emplear y dar seguridad y proteccion a facilitadores y recaudadores de fondos de Hezbola'', dijo el miercoles Adam J. Szubin, el director de la Oficina de Control de Bienes Extranjeros (OFAC), al anunciar la decision.

Washington identifico a los venezolanos de origen arabe Ghazi Atef Nassereddine, actualmente consejero politico de la embajada venezolana en Libano, y a Faouzi Mustapha Kanaan, propietario de dos agencias de viajes en Caracas, como integrantes de una red de operadores que ofrecian asesoria a donantes sobre como transferir fondos a Hezbola, y facilitaban viajes hacia y desde Venezuela de miembros activos del grupo miliciano

It is extremely shocking to see the ven government hiring up and sheltering those patrons for such militia," said the director of foreign goods control office, A.J.S. when announcing the decission.

Wash identified the venezuelans, arabic rooted G.A.N. currently political councellor to the ven embassy in Lebanon and F.M.K. owner of two travel agencies down in Caracas, as part of a network that helped get donation transfers to Hezbola and that facilitated the flow of active members from said militia to\from Venezuela.



http://www.elnuevoherald.com/167/story/229366.html

My question remains up, though. Still Washington does not "realise" they are the MAIN funders of terrorism by transfering such a huge ammount of petrodollars to south america VIA energy supply from a self declared guerrillero?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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"Si a las fuerzas armadas rusas les gustara venir a Venezuela, serian bienvenidas calurosamente", agrego Chavez en la conferencia de prensa, informo Interfax. "Izaremos banderas, tocaremos tambores y cantaremos canciones, porque vendran nuestros aliados".

"If the russian Armed Forces would like to come to Venezuela, they will be warmly welcomed" added hugo in the press conference, as informed by Interfax. "We will raise up our flags, beat our drums and sing songs because its our allied the ones coming right down over here".


http://www.elnuevoherald.com/256/story/248384.html
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Chavez anuncia posible visita de flota rusa en Venezuela
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CARACAS --
El presidente Hugo Chavez expreso la esperanza de que una flota de Rusia viaje a Venezuela y dijo que estaban en marcha las gestiones para la visita.

Moscu no ha divulgado por el momento la intencion de enviar una flota a Venezuela.

Although the intention has not been yet confirmed by the Russians, hugo vowed his hopes for the Russian fleet to visit chavezuela.

Chavez, que dirige un gobierno socialista, dijo a la television estatal la noche del jueves que habia abordado el posible viaje de la flota con delegados rusos que lo visitaron en Caracas y que habia hablado por telefono con el primer ministro de Rusia, Vladimir Putin.

Chavez, que tiene relaciones estrechas con Moscu, afirmo que espera la materializacion de la visita de la flota rusa.

Los delegados rusos estan interesados en la idea, afirmo.


http://www.elnuevoherald.com/167/story/269562.html


And to make things more on the personal side with his generous "enemy", this other pearl:

http://www.noticierodigital.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=423070

("W" photographed wasted drunk in Pekin´s games by his infallible sources but kept silent by MSM).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Russia assured none of the two long reach bombers sent to chavezuela would carry active war ammo nor nuclear arsenal or of any other kind, on them. They are just to test fly over neutral waters.


http://espanol.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/080911/latinoamerica/eur_gen_rusia_venezuela


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"we already had enough from you, shitty yanks and you can go 100 times to hell but it will be your responsability for our oil shipments to your country"

Said the red clown in another memorable speech, showing up again his true colors.

By the way, full text and video clip, but in spanish, in the link, for his small fans club.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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The United States Treasury Department reported on Friday that it has frozen the assets that two top Venezuelan officials and one former minister have under US jurisdiction and prohibited them from conducting financial transactions "for materially assisting the narcotics trafficking activities of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)," Colombia's largest rebel group, according to a press release posted on the Treasury web's site.


TheSanctions imposed by the US Treasury Department affect explicitly two senior Venezuelan government officials: Hugo Armando Carvajal Barrios and Henry de Jesus Rangel Silva, the head of the Directorate of Intelligence, Security and Prevention Services (Disip), as well as former minister of Interior and Justice, Ramon Rodriguez Chacin, who resigned to the post this week.


Farc supporters ..... cool, but what about his REAL boss??

What about the north american govmt. supporting, funding and financing a terrorist supporter through oil deals?
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The Northern Russian Fleet confirmed on Monday the navy exercises that will be conducted along with Venezuela. Russian military officers confirmed, through a note, that the nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great, which carries both conventional and nuclear missiles, will be one of the warships to sail Venezuelan waters.


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