How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
One thing that surprises me, so much is in Africa. In a sense, it is colonization. I thought Africa was always pushing back against Europeans for this kind of thing?
"In Congo, a Chinese telecommunications giant, ZTE International, has bought more than 7 million acres of forest to plant oil palms. In Zimbabwe, state-owned China International Water and Electric Corp. reportedly received rights from the government to farm 250,000 acres of corn in the south."
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland
The Chinese are trying to "Drink our Milkshake". We must snip their straw and bash their collective brains in with a bowling pin. _________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
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Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 661 Location: The Canada of America
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland
First thing I thought I saw when I looked at the thread was "China to lease FINLAND". Took me a sec to get it right. But the fact that that sprang to mind so instantly is some indication of how things are going these days!
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland
pup55 wrote:
Why not? If you don't have enough land, but have enough money, you can buy the land. Lock up the means of production.
Our Irish PO.com visitors will tell you about what happened to them when the Brits tried this strategy in the 19th century.
The locals were starved so that the crops could be exported to feed the land owners.
The result: 150 years of resentment.
Silly humans.
A production sharing agreement will give the locals more incentives to help than to fight. If the Chinese can double the output and do a 50/50 split with the locals, I don't see any reason why the locals won't just let the Chinese do the work and they go on slacking.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland
The Japs were buying up Kansas land years ago. When asked if there was a chance that they would starve us out one day, the president then said, LET THEM COME GET IT then.
What he meant was it can only get so bad then we just take it back from the little bastards.
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