How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: Iran- Latest News
Iran Threatens Retaliation On Gulf Arab Oil If Attacked By U.S
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"An attack on Iran will be tantamount to endangering Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and "in a word" the entire Middle East oil," Iranian Expediency Council secretary Mohsen Rezai said on Tuesday.
About 40 percent of the world's crude oil shipments passes through the two-mile wide channel of the strategic Straits of Hormuz. Iranian forces are deployed at the head of the channel. Oman and the United Arab Emirates are located on the other side.
Teheran could easily block the Straits of Hormuz and use its missiles to strike tankers and GCC oil facilities. Within weeks, the rest of the world would be starving for oil and the global economy could be in danger.
Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika here on Wednesday welcomed the expansion of strategic relations with Iran in all fields.
In a meeting with Iran's outgoing Ambassador to Algeria Mohammadreza Mavalizadeh, Bouteflika expressed satisfaction over the growing ties between the two Muslim states of Iran and Algeria
Rafsanjani warns US and Europe facing "trouble" in nuclear stand-off
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"I say to Europe, US and the agency that this style of confrontation will definitely not bring you a favourable result, and it will cause trouble for you," the powerful former president said in a Friday prayer sermon.
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There's a video of Matt Simmons--I can't remember which--he talks about being in Iran and meeting Ali Samsan Bahktiari (I think). He described the Iranians he met as "lovely people." It's a nice moment.
Isn't it sickening to think what we're headed for? _________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:44 am Post subject:
Pakistan, Iranian navies to hold joint exercises
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Two Iranian Naval Ships will carry out joint exercises with Pakistan navy ships in the open seawhich involves joint maneuvers and advance tactical exercises, a Pakistani navy statement said here on Saturday.
"This, apart from a good opportunity for personnel of two navies to benefit from each others experiences, also provides an arena to improve upon naval procedures and doctrines," the statement said.
Iran acting in good faith in nuclear talks with EU: Croatia
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Croatian President Stipe Mesic said Iran (news - web sites) was acting in good faith in its talks with the European Union (news - web sites) which is pressing Tehran to abandon sensitive nuclear fuel cycle work.
Speaking after talks with his visiting Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Khatami (news - web sites), Mesic also voiced support for efforts to control proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Iran and EU resume nuclear talks in sharp disagreement
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Negotiators from Iran and the European Union meet in Geneva this week for new talks on Tehran's nuclear policy, with Iran flatly refusing to accede to the Europeans key demand that it abandon uranium enrichment, a fuel process which can also make atom bombs.
Iran's top nuclear official Hassan Rowhani warned Saturday that his country would never agree to a permanent halt on enriching uranium.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: Iran
Richard Heinberg--a name most of you PO posters should be slightly familiar with ( ) has just allowed EnergyBulletin to post his latest Museletter reflections on the US and Iran and what's gonna happen. It's a long article, but well worth the read!
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Published on 7 Mar 2005 by MuseLetter.com. Archived on 7 Mar 2005.
Onward to Iran
by Richard Heinberg
MuseLetter 155 (March 2005)
In the weeks after 9/11/2001, George W Bush announced the existence of an "Axis of Evil" comprised of the nations of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. In speeches that followed, he implied that he regarded it desirable to achieve "regime change" in all three countries. In the years since, the first of the three, Iraq, has been invaded and reduced to a desolate landscape of violence and hopelessness.
In speeches since the November 2004 elections, Bush and his new secretary of state Condoleeza Rice have spoken of a "War on Tyranny", which is presumably intended to replace the now-shopworn War on Terror. The semantic shift reveals much about Washington's plans for the next four years. The new campaign will imply no need to justify pre-emptive attacks based on other nations' possession of banned weapons. Washington can simply target regimes it dislikes, even democratic ones, on the basis of their reputed "tyrannical" nature. Evidently the manipulation of elections has become such an exact science (not only within the US, but elsewhere as well) that "freedom" and "democracy" can be exported wholesale in slogan form with considerable propaganda effect, but with no danger whatever to the interests of those who call the shots.
Potential targets for the War on Tyranny, compiled from the statements of various government officials, include Syria, Sudan, Algeria, Yemen, Malaysia, Somalia, Indonesia, and Georgia - countries strategically critical to the Administration's goal of controlling global energy resource extraction and transportation routes.
In every leaked or published list, Iran is the first nation mentioned. There are good reasons to assume that a US campaign against Iran will commence within months and that this will serve to open the next and much expanded phase of what is actually the Global Oil War of the 21st century. Because of Tehran's connections with other countries troublesome to the US - including China, Russia, and Venezuela - the campaign in Iran will be the key to a planned clean sweep of nations impeding America's "full spectrum dominance".
What follows is partly speculation; however, there is now enough information available upon which to base plausible conjectures as to intentions, likely actions, and consequences.
History and Background
But first let us consider the geographic and historical context of the impending events.
The country now known as Iran (ancient Persia) was a center for pre-Islamic Indo-European culture since the second millennium BCE, and for Islamic culture since the fifth century CE. It was the birthplace of Zoroastrianism, the home of Sufi poet Rumi, a site of empires and a frequent object of conquest.
In the early 19th century, Persia began to fall under the rival commercial and imperial attentions of Britain and Russia, serving as a pivot for the Great Game of Eurasian geopolitics.
In 1901, an Australian explorer named William Knox D'Arcy managed to persuade the Persian shah to grant him mineral rights to the country for sixty years in exchange for GBP 20,000 and a 16% share of the proceeds. D'Arcy then began prospecting for oil, which he found in 1908. Iranian history from then on has hinged on this discovery.
Britain had meanwhile realized the strategic importance of petroleum for the future of industrial production and warfare (the British war fleet was converting from coal to oil) and was seeking secure supplies of the resource in the Middle East. Sidney Reilly, the famous British spy, talked D'Arcy into parting with his contract, and thus was born the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, which would later become British Petroleum or BP.
In 1921 Reza Khan, an army officer, organized a coup d'etat that left him as the country's shah and founder of the Pahlavi dynasty. The new shah acted to modernize the country while also managing to negotiate better terms with BP. In 1935, with the nation coming under increasing pressure from both Britain and Russia, the shah encouraged German commercial enterprise and changed the country's name from Persia to Iran (Farsi for "Aryan") Britain and the Soviet Union simultaneously invaded Iran in 1941 and quickly overcame Iranian resistance. Reza Shah abdicated in favor of his son, who ascended the throne as Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. In September 1943, Iran declared war on Germany.
After the war, Iran's Prime Minister, a land-owning aristocrat named Mohammad Mosaddeq, nationalized BP's exclusive concession in order to satisfy the country's growing need for revenue to pay for modernization. With this nationalization of its oil fields Iran would come to serve as an example for other resource-rich Third-World countries. Mosaddeq, a flamboyant populist leader, spoke prominently at the United Nations and was the 1951 Time Magazine Man of the Year. Britain, furious, blockaded Iran and took its case against Mosaddeq to the World Courtwhich ruled in Iran's favor.
In 1953 British intelligence and the CIA colluded to overthrow Mosaddeq, with General Norman Schwartzkopf - father of the leader of the American forces during the Desert Storm operation in 1990 - playing a key role in the plot. Once Mosaddeq was gone (he spent his declining years under house arrest and died in 1967), the shah assumed dictatorial powers, granted oil rights to a consortium of British and American companies, and established close ties with the US.
Over the ensuing quarter-century, Shah Reza Pahlavi led efforts to industrialize his country, commissioning nuclear power plants from France and Germany during the early 1970s. In 1978, he refused BP's proposal for a 25-year renewal of its oil extraction agreement. The shah had outlived his usefulness.
In his book A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Geopolitics and the New World Order, William Engdahl sets forth the view that the fall of the Pahlavi dynasty and the installation of Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 were engineered by British intelligence and the CIA as part of a Washington strategy, proudly masterminded by Zbigniev Brzezinski, to stoke the fires of radical Islam throughout the Middle East in order to undermine efforts at Arab nationalism. The thought was that countries like Iran and Iraq could be played off against one another, then later the US could sweep in and pick up the pieces. The radical Islamists would also serve to undermine Soviet ties in the region: they were at the center of the Afghanistan war against the USSR and assisted in the later Balkans campaigns. They also would later provide a convenient new enemy to replace the Soviet Union after the end of the Cold War.
Covert connections between the new Iranian theocratic leadership and the incoming Reagan administration in the US were demonstrated by the so-called October Surprise, which spelled the end of Jimmy Carter's presidency, and the guns-for-hostages deal, also known as the Iran-Contra scandal.
The Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988) appears to have been covertly fomented by the US (which encouraged Saddam Hussein to attack) in order to weaken both countries - Iran being supported by Syria and Libya and receiving weaponry from North Korea and China (as well as the US), Iraq enjoying wider support among both Arab and Western nations with the Soviet Union its largest arms supplier. War deaths were estimated at up to 1.5 million.
Khomeini died in 1989, and political power in Iran passed largely to president Rafsanjani, a more moderate leader (though the mullahs retained supreme authority). Rafsanjani, who sought better relations with the West in order to attract investment capital, was succeeded in 1997 by Khatami, the current president, also a moderate, who has pursued improved relations with the US and Saudi Arabia. However, as an Islamic Republic, Iran often spouts anti-American rhetoric, and has recently courted closer economic and security ties with Russia and China.
Iran's oil endowment is both its treasure and its curse. According to Colin Campbell (writing in ASPO newsletter #32), about 120 billion barrels of oil have been found in Iran, which made it a significant producer throughout the 20th century:
Most of the discovery to-date lies in a few giant fields ... which were mainly found by the Consortium in the 1960s based on prospects long known to BP's explorers ... There have been recent reports of major discoveries at Bushehr, but it turns out that they are almost certainly long-known deposits of high sulphur heavy oil of no particular significance ... Future discovery is here estimated at about 8 trillion barrels, probably mainly coming from the offshore.
Campbell notes that Iran, a co-founder of OPEC in 1961, has the "typical twin-peaked [oil production] profile of an OPEC country":
The first peak was passed in 1974 at 6.1 million barrels per day, falling to a low of 1.2 million barrels per day in 1980, before recovering to 3.4 million barrels per day in 2002. Some reports suggest that depletion of present reserves is running as high as 7%, which may reflect operational shortcomings and lack of investment ... [P]roduction could in resource terms rise to a second peak in 2009 at almost 5 million barrels per day before commencing its terminal decline at 2.6% a year, but operational and investment constraints may prevent such a level being reached in practice, with 3-4 million barrels per day peak being perhaps more likely. Naturally, any new invasion would radically affect this forecast.
Campbell also notes that "The country's gas resources were very large indeed, totaling some 1000 trillion cubic feet". Iran currently exports about 2.3 million barrels of oil per day (the world uses about 85 million barrels per day).
Why Would the US Attack Iran?
At first thought, it seems a US attack on Iran would seem foolish, given that the American military is already bogged down in neighboring Iraq. However, there are three important reasons why the Administration might be more than willing take up the immense risks involved.
The first, which is the one most widely discussed, is that Iran is reputedly seeking to develop nuclear weapons. Most Western intelligence agencies estimate that Iran is three to five years away from being able to produce bombs from scratch. However, missile delivery systems are already in place that could loft warheads to cities in Israel, or to American bases throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. America is willing to countenance Pakistan's and Israel's nuclear capability, but these nations work with the US; Iran, in contrast, is independent and is making its own security deals with China, Russia, and Venezuela, and would be considered a threat to Israel. From the Iranian perspective, though, the development of a nuclear deterrent makes perfect sense in view of the recent US invasion of neighboring Iraq.
The second reason has to do with the challenge that Tehran presents to the US economy. According to recent news articles emanating from Iran, that country is planning to establish a regional oil exchange stock. A December 28 2004 article in the London-based online publication IranMania.com notes that:
Iran will move a step closer to establishing its much-publicized oil exchange next week, when the Oil Ministry and the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Finance are set to sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU), which will set the ground for the high-profile initiative. Hossein Talebi, the National Iranian Oil Company's director for information technology affairs, told Fars news agency that the project would enter the executive phase immediately after the MoU is signed. The official further said that petrochemicals, crude oil and oil and gas products will be traded at the petroleum exchange. "The oil exchange would strive to make Iran the main hub for oil deals in the region", he said, adding that most deals will be conducted through the Internet ... Iran announced in September its petroleum exchange will become operational by March 2006 ...
(www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView...)
As William Clark argues in his forthcoming book Petrodollar Warfare (New Society, summer 2005), the denomination of global oil sales in US dollars has kept the American dollar artificially strong throughout the period from 1974 to present, enabling Washington to run up huge foreign-funded government debt and trade deficits. Tehran's action, whether or not deliberately calculated to do so, could cause a dollar crash. Iraq was the first nation to announce intentions to sell oil for euros instead of dollars (in November 2000), and one of the first acts of the provisional government put in place by in invading US forces was to return oil sales to the dollar standard.
In an article titled "The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker" (October 27, 2004, globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html), Clark notes that:
Similar to the Iraq war, upcoming operations against Iran relate to the macroeconomics of "petrodollar recycling" and the unpublicized but real challenge to US dollar supremacy from the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency ... Candidly stated, Operation Iraqi Freedom was a war designed to install a pro-US puppet in Iraq, establish multiple US military bases before the onset of Peak Oil, and to reconvert Iraq back to petrodollars while hoping to thwart further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an alternative oil-transaction currency ... From a purely economic and monetary perspective, a petroeuro system is a logical development given that the European Union imports more oil from OPEC producers than does the US and the EU accounts for 45% of imports into the Middle East ... One of the Federal Reserve's nightmares may begin to unfold in 2005 or 2006, when it appears international buyers will have a choice of buying a barrel of oil for $50 dollars on the NYMEX and IPEor purchase a barrel of oil for 37 to 40 euros via the Iranian Bourse ... A successful Iranian bourse would solidify the petroeuro as an alternative oil-transaction currency, and thereby end the petrodollar's hegemonic status as the monopoly oil currency.
A third reason for the US to invade Iran arises from long-term American geopolitical strategy: Iran is one of the few important oil exporters without a US military presence (others include Russia and Venezuela). Further, Iran is strategically located between Afghanistan and Iraq, bridging the Middle East and Central Asia, and its control is thus essential for US domination of those oil-rich regions.
With the approach of Peak Oil, the world has entered the end-game phase of the industrial interval. If the US does not gain a stranglehold on world resource streams, then China - now the world's main consumer of steel, grain, meat, and coal - will do so. Already China is gaining long-term oil contracts in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, and Nigeria; the Chinese are even seeking a sizeable portion of Canadian oil production, and have actually attempted to buy an American oil company (Unocal). While on the surface the US and China are politely trading (Americans buy cheap Chinese goods, the Chinese invest their earnings in US Treasury Bills in order to enable Americans to afford even more Chinese imports), beneath the surface both are angling for a superior position as the final game begins. If the US merely stands by, its economy will be destroyed when China eventually sells off its dollar holdings, and America will land on the ash heap of failed empires. The latter's only hope of continued glory is to play its remaining strong card - its spectacularly lethal weapons of mass death - in an effort to maintain control of global resource flows.
The US faces immense risks in an attack, as will be discussed below. However, given its stated priorities, it can hardly demur from taking up those risks.
Evidence that an Attack Is in the Planning Stages
In an article in The New Yorker dated January 17 2005, veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reported that US commando teams have been operating in Iran for months, carrying out secret reconnaissance missions to learn about nuclear, chemical, and missile sites in preparation for possible air strikes. Hersh also says that the administration's aims could include not just the thwarting of Iran's nuclear ambitions, but regime change as well.
Citing a former high-level intelligence official, Hersh claims that secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly after the election "and told them, in essence, that the naysayers had been heard and the American people did not accept their message":
"This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush Administration is looking at this as a huge war zone", the former high-level intelligence official told me. "Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign. We've declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah - we've got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism."
While Administration officials dispute Hersh's allegations, other reporters and news agencies are publishing corroborating information. An Al Jazeera article published February 6, titled "US-Israel plan to strike Iran's nuclear sites finalized", claimed that:
Experts from the US Defense Department, the Pentagon and Israel have put final touches to a plan to launch a military strike targeting Iran's nuclear facilities, experts at the European Commission based in Brussels, revealed on Sunday. The experts added that the implementation of this plan rested on a number of factors including the US continuous efforts to hamper the EU-Iranian negotiations to persuade Iran to suspend all activities related to uranium enrichment, with the aim of justifying a military strike against the Islamic republic if it refused to bow to US pressures. Yesterday, American news sources reported that US senators have set up a review panel of the CIA's intelligence on Iran in order to try and avoid the pitfalls that marked the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.
Meanwhile, Bush has announced the appointment of Elliott Abrams, previously in charge of Middle East affairs, to the office of deputy national security adviser. Abrams, who pleaded guilty in 1991 to withholding information from Congress (and was pardoned by G H W Bush), will now be supervising the current president's strategy for "advancing democracy", according to the Washington Post. Many regard Abrams as one of the foremost proponents of the neoconservative agenda in Washington; he authored the chapter on the Middle East in the 2000 blueprint for US foreign policy by the Project on the New American Century (PNAC).
Many observers do not appreciate how different the neoconservative mindset is from that of the previous foreign policy consensus. For example the neoconservatives view America's war against the Vietnamese as a mistake only in that insufficient force was used: several neocons have opined that the US should have employed whatever means were necessary, including nuclear weapons, to prevail in that effort.
PNAC literature bristles with complaints, accusations, and threats directed against Tehran. During the early months of the first term in the George W Bush administration, neoconservatives were often quoted as saying, "Everybody wants to go to Baghdad; real men want to go to Tehran". William Kristol, on a PNAC web site, after a litany of indictments of Iran, concludes: "We do need a coherent, serious policy toward Iran; one of containment, pressure, accountability and, ultimately, regime change." (July 20, 2004)
www.newamericancentury.org/iran-20040720.htm
Bush, in his State of the Union address on February 2, pointedly noted that "Today, Iran remains the world's primary state sponsor of terror, pursuing nuclear weapons while depriving its people of the freedom they seek and deserve."
This past month, Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania) was said to be at work on the "Iran Freedom and Support Act", a bill apparently designed to help prepare America psychologically for an attack on Tehran. Santorum told Fox News that "By supporting the people of Iran, and through greater outreach to pro-democracy groups, we will hopefully foster a peaceful transition to democracy in Iran. The bill also notes the futility of working with the Iranian government."
Meanwhile the new US secretary of state, Condoleeza Rice, is sending conflicting signals. On February 4 she claimed a US attack on Iran "is simply not on the agenda", though she would not say whether the US supports regime change in the country. Yet only five days later she warned Iran of consequences if its nuclear program is not abandoned.
One can hardly help but recall similar contradictory statements from officials in the year leading up to the invasion of Iraq.
On February 17, George W Bush pledged to support Israel if it bombs Iran in an effort to destroy the Islamic regime's capacity to make an atomic bomb. Asked whether he would back Israel if it raided Teheran's nuclear facilities, Bush said, "Clearly, if I was the leader of Israel and I'd listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded the security of my country, I'd be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon as well. And in that Israel is our ally, and in that we've made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if her security is threatened."
Meanwhile rumors mount. On February 18, Scott Ritter, a former US Marine and UN weapons inspector in Iraq, in a talk delivered to a packed house in Olympia's Capitol Theater in Washington State, claimed on the basis of inside information that George W Bush has "signed off" on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005.
While European diplomatic efforts seek to head off a military confrontation, "In private", as Guy Dinsmore notes in a Financial Times article of February 14 ("Would Condi and Dubbya really Start Another War?"), "European officials say the best they can do is to buy time, perhaps to the end of the year."
Possible consequences
What would be the likely results of an American attack on Iran?
In the fall of 2004, The Atlantic conducted war games (reported in the December 2004 issue in an article by James Fallows, titled "Will Iran be Next?"). The magazine hired retired military strategists to come together and, in discussions, play out three possible scenarios: a limited attack on Iran's nuclear research facilities, an air attack on the Republican Guard designed to destroy Iranian overall military capability, and an all-out invasion aimed at regime change. Each ended with unacceptable consequences. The attack on nuclear facilities, the participants agreed, would be unlikely to stop research and would probably only redouble Iranian resolve to develop nuclear weapons. An air attack on Iranian military units would provoke retaliation against US forces in Iraq. And a full-on invasion would entail US casualties and an ongoing occupation and guerilla warfare. The war games leader, retired Air Force Colonel Sam Gardiner (who ran war games at the National War College for more than two decades), summarized the group's conclusions: "After all this effort, I am left with two simple sentences for policymakers: You have no military solution for the issues of Iran. And you have to make diplomacy work."
Nevertheless, despite the counter-productiveness of the likely outcomes, the war gamers could not rule out the likelihood that the US would pursue one or more of these strategies: "Companies deciding which kinds of toothpaste to market have much more rigorous, established decision-making procedures to refer to than the most senior officials of the US government deciding whether or not to go to war", said Michael Mazarr, a professor of national-security strategy at the National War College. Thomas Hammes, a Marine expert in counter-insurgency, added that "You can never assume that just because a government knows something is unviable, it won't go ahead and do it. The Iraqis knew it was unviable to invade Iran, but they still did it. History shows that countries make very serious mistakes."
The neoconservatives appear to have a view of the situation that is not reflected in these war games. They evidently believe that, after the first strikes, the Iranian regime will simply collapse. Hersh (in The New Yorker) writes:
The government is urging a limited attack on Iran because they believe it could lead to a toppling of the religious leadership. "Within the soul of Iran there is a struggle between secular nationalists and reformers, on the one hand, and, on the other hand, the fundamentalist Islamic movement", the consultant told me. "The minute the aura of invincibility which the mullahs enjoy is shattered, and with it the ability to hoodwink the West, the Iranian regime will collapse" - like the former Communist regimes in Romania, East Germany, and the Soviet Union. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz share that belief, he said.
However, Hersh notes that Iran experts dispute the likelihood of a quick collapse of the Tehran regime, and say that a more likely consequence would be a stiffening of Iranian opposition. Again, one cannot help recalling how similar expectations were voiced by administration insiders prior to the Iraq invasionand how those expectations were dashed. The US administration appears to be cherry-picking expert advice, accepting only those views that coincide with what higher-ups want to hear. This is evidently a policy emanating from top levels: George W Bush himself is said to have told advisors that he wants to hear only good news. However, the news following an invasion might be anything but good.
According to a Reuters report by Amir Paivar titled "Iran Promises 'Burning Hell' for Any Aggressor", dated February 10 2005:-
Iran, facing mounting US pressure over its nuclear program, promised Thursday a "Burning hell" for any aggressor as tens of thousands marched to mark the 26th anniversary of its Islamic revolution. "The Iranian nation does not seek war, does not seek violence and dispute. But the world must know that this nation will not tolerate any invasion", President Mohammad Khatami said in a fiery speech to the crowd in central Tehran. "The whole Iranian nation is united against any threat or attack. If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them", he added, as the crowd, braving heavy snow blizzards, chanted "Death to America!"
While such threats can mostly be chalked up to bluff and bravado (most of the Iranian war machinery is outdated and worn), Tehran does possesses some weapons that are accurate and destructive - far more so than any used by Saddam Hussein against American forces. An example is the Russian-made Sunburn cruise missile, specifically designed to defeat the US Aegis radar defense system and said to be the most lethal anti-ship weapon in the world.
If attacked, Iran would likely foment a Shi'ite rebellion in Iraq against US occupation forces, an insurgency that might far surpass in extent and deadliness the current Sunni-led resistance. Moreover, Tehran might also unleash its 300 North Korean-engineered Shahab-3 ballistic missiles on US bases in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq. If invaded, Iran's tactic would be to wage a guerilla war similar to that undertaken by the Sunni-led resistance in Iraq. Tehran has already announced efforts to increase the size of its seven-million-strong "Basiji" militia forces, which were deployed in human wave attacks against Iraq during the 1980s. According to news reports, tens of thousands of rifles are currently being handed out.
A US attack could have serious implications for international relations. Iran has spent the past few years cementing economic and military ties with Russia, China, and the EU, and such efforts have intensified dramatically within past weeks. These nations, to varying degrees, view the US as a superpower that has outlived much of its usefulness to the rest of the world. The US is now a liability in many respects: its immense national debt and trade deficits weigh down the global economy; its profligate consumption of resources leaves less to go around for other nations; its refusal to sign the Kyoto accord ensures a century of environmental collapse; and its arrogant militarism serves to undermine any hopes for cooperative solutions to future contests over dwindling resources. No government wants to take on the US militarily. But Washington appears determined to control the chokepoints of global resource flows. Thus the leaders of China, Russia - and to a lesser extent even those of the EU - would in their own view be acting in self-defense by drawing a line in the sand around Iran. Indeed, in recent weeks Russia has begun selling some of its more advanced missiles to Syria, Venezuela, and Iran, just as the US has amped up its rhetoric against these countries.
Likely Scenarios
What can we expect in the weeks and months ahead? Over the short term we will see diplomatic wrangling, and the seeding of news stories with inflammatory comments from unnamed government sources. An example of the latter is a Reuters article, "Iran Will Know How to Build Bomb in 6 Months - Israel", by Andrew Cawthorne, dated February 15, in which anonymous Israeli officials are quoted as saying that Tehran is much closer to having atomic weapons than most US and European experts have estimated.
If and when EU talks with Iran break down, China and Russia seem likely to block any UN Security Council resolution designed to impose sanctions on Tehran. The US is no more likely to find support for punitive measures among the G8 nations, since Japan obtains about fifteen percent of its oil from Iran and has few easy alternative sources to make up the difference in the event of a trade embargo.
As noted above, the Administration evidently feels that an attack on Iran will result in a quick collapse of the government, and so Iranian dissident groups are no doubt being prepared to step into the power vacuum that might emerge. However, if the neoconservatives are as wrong here as they were in Iraq and the Tehran regime does not fall, then the US will be presented with a dilemma. If it withdraws, it will face defeat and humiliation. But a pursuit of invasion and militarily enforced regime change will be extremely costly in terms of dollars and human lives. How to justify either effort to the American people?
Because the likely outcomes are unpalatable, and because the ongoing occupation of neighboring Iraq is not going well, American officials would find it nearly impossible to launch an attack on Iran without an adequate immediate pretext. Therefore Iran must be enticed to attack the US, or must be made to appear to do so. The most likely scenario would be for Israel to take the lead in bombing Iranian nuclear facilities. To Tehran, this would signify US involvement, as Israeli planes would likely fly over US-controlled Iraqi air space. Iran would then predictably retaliate against both Israel and the US, perhaps by launching Scud missiles toward Israel and Sunburn cruise missiles against one or more American warships stationed in the Persian Gulf. The loss of an aircraft carrier or battleship with hundreds or thousands of American sailors on board could then summon a sufficient emotional response from the American people so that the full resources of the nation (including an immediate re-institution of the draft) could be mustered behind a three-pronged invasion of Iran from Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Gulf.
Alternatively, if Iran did not take the bait and sink a US warship, Israel could do so under false flag, with the American people being told that the Iranian mullahs were to blame. Or an American city could be attacked from within by "terrorists", with Tehran again being assigned the guilt.
These events are most likely to commence before the end of 2005, as Iran cannot be permitted to open its oil bourse in March 2006.
Once the chain of events begins, it is anyone's guess how it might unwind over the ensuing weeks, months, and perhaps even years. It seems more than likely that China would take this as an opportunity to dump its dollar holdings on world markets, thus tipping the US economy into a depression. Russia's response can only be guessed at. Domestically, the US would likely institute draconian measures to monitor citizens' "patriotism" and severely restrict the freedoms of those who questioned the government's actions. And the US might well take the opportunity to widen the war to Venezuela and other sites of "tyranny" around the world.
While the Iraq invasion and its aftermath have been immensely destructive events, there are signs that what is in store will be far, far worse.
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Iranian president holds talks with Bosnian leaders, set to sign four agreements.
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Iranian President Mohammad Khatami started off his visit to Bosnia and Herzegovina on Tuesday with talks with Bosnian Presidency Council members.
Bosnian Presidency Foreign Affairs Advisor Dino Delberovic told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) here that Khatami would sign four agreements on security, cultural, sports, media and trade cooperation during his two-day visit.
Khatami is expected to hold a joint press conference later tonight with current Presidency Council Chairman Borislav Paravac.
An Iranian official confirmed Monday that a uranium enrichment plant in central Iran is underground as a protection against airstrikes, but insisted that is not a sign the program aims to produce nuclear weapons.
U.S. officials have said building nuclear facilities underground is inconsistent with Iran’s contention its atomic program is intended only for the generation of electricity. The Iranians deny Washington’s accusation that they are trying to build nuclear weapons.
Iran worried about Hezbollah's future in Lebanon
Middle East
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Iran is juggling an eagerness not to anger Lebanon, maintaining a close friendship with Syria and backing its key ally Hezbollah whom it sees as threatened by the pressure on Damascus to pull out its troops.
Iranian government spokesman Abdollah Ramazanzadeh on Monday denounced what he said were "foreign provocations that have always caused trouble in Lebanon".
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Iran
savethehumans wrote:
-Published on 7 Mar 2005 by MuseLetter.com. Archived on 7 Mar 2005. Onward to Iran by Richard Heinberg MuseLetter 155 (March 2005)
Why do I get the feeling that a trap is being set for the US by the EU, Russia, China and Iran is the bait?
If the US does not attack Iran, the the Iranians will open their oil bourse next year around this time, sell their oil in euros and destroy the US economy.
If the US does attack, multiple scenarios are possible. If the US loses, the world will turn from the US and the dollar and the US will crumble as a world power. If the US wins, it will be a long hard battle, which will drain the US of resources and money, causing the US economy to decline and the dollar to be sold off on the world market.
Anyway you look at it the euro will be the winner. I often wonder why Russia and Iran haven't switched their oil sales to euors by now or why Iran hasn't opened its bourse this year. I think this is because the EU won't be prepared for the euro to become an oil currency until next year.
The petro-euro is exactly what the EU needs to finance the integration of the 10 new states and euroisation of these countries. Plus, the EU wants to be a super power and can't do so as long as the US is in the way. The EU is also planning to become a nation in its own right around 2010, with the dissolution of its present nation states and the creation or internal states known as euroregions.
I can't help think that the negotiations going on between the EU and Iran have less to do with nuclear arms and more to do with planning the trap and stabilizing the near east after the collapse of the US. The nuclear aspect we hear about in the news is a cover story.
The present instability in Iraq is designed to keep the Americans under control until the time is right for either the euroisation of the oil currency first in Iran, then in Russia, Venezuela, Libya, and elsewhere or the war that will end US threats and domination anywhere in the world.
The plan's success will be a direct result of American arrogance, which has made America blind. America refuses to see the world has grown tired of it and has decided it is time for a regime change of its own.
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Iran
Euric wrote:
savethehumans wrote:
Published on 7 Mar 2005 by MuseLetter.com. Archived on 7 Mar 2005. Onward to Iran by Richard Heinberg
MuseLetter 155 (March 2005)
Why do I get the feeling that a trap is being set for the US by the EU, Russia, China and Iran is the bait?
If the US does not attack Iran, the the Iranians will open their oil bourse next year around this time, sell their oil in euros and destroy the US economy.
If the US does attack, multiple scenarios are possible. If the US loses, the world will turn from the US and the dollar and the US will crumble as a world power. If the US wins, it will be a long hard battle, which will drain the US of resources and money, causing the US economy to decline and the dollar to be sold off on the world market.
Anyway you look at it the euro will be the winner. I often wonder why Russia and Iran haven't switched their oil sales to euors by now or why Iran hasn't opened its bourse this year. I think this is because the EU won't be prepared for the euro to become an oil currency until next year.
The petro-euro is exactly what the EU needs to finance the integration of the 10 new states and euroisation of these countries. Plus, the EU wants to be a super power and can't do so as long as the US is in the way. The EU is also planning to become a nation in its own right around 2010, with the dissolution of its present nation states and the creation or internal states known as euroregions.
I can't help think that the negotiations going on between the EU and Iran have less to do with nuclear arms and more to do with planning the trap and stabilizing the near east after the collapse of the US. The nuclear aspect we hear about in the news is a cover story.
The present instability in Iraq is designed to keep the Americans under control until the time is right for either the euroisation of the oil currency first in Iran, then in Russia, Venezuela, Libya, and elsewhere or the war that will end US threats and domination anywhere in the world.
The plan's success will be a direct result of American arrogance, which has made America blind. America refuses to see the world has grown tired of it and has decided it is time for a regime change of its own.
The plot gets thicker
Peak Oil
but there is a way eu looses