For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Irish in Idaho
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: New here..
An Irish visitor in the US.......Yes, I am one of those people who saw the AP article...I've been following the US elections and of course the price of gas. You people have NOT seen high priced gas yet..........in Europe we pay about double. I came over here last summer and some people seem to be driving ..er ..em TANKS (sorry big truck drivers) and living in uninsulated houses...........I could go on
So my situation....I have been aware of this peak oil situation for a while, in fact I grew up with no central heating as the 70's crisis kicked in and my dad refused to pay for oil....in the winter we had a huddled existence in front of a stove, with woolly socks and extra jumpers (sweaters....I can knit)- hot water bottles - porridge for breakfast. My dad worked as an engineer with the national power company and saw us move from peat to coal powered stations to oil, then gas. Along the way he turned Christian and saw Armaggeddon coming; we thought he was quite mad (he never wanted to throw out ANYTHING), but somewhere in the back of my mind I know His age and experience counts for something.
My Dads advice: land......good land......I have none myself as it has been too pricey in Ireland. For now I am going to start adjusting my priorities, saving money and learning stuff.....better to be a useful person in a time of crisis.
I know people in Ireland who are moving back to the land, the government is now encouraging conservation, solar, wind and even wave power, though society in general is caught up in driving around trying to catch up with their bills.
Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3345 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
Welcome, and nice to meet you, taizy8.
Please browse through the various topics and threads; use the search button to look for items that specifically interest you. The Planning for the Future forum is especially helpful.
Please ask questions or make points when you feel the need.
We have others from Ireland here, You might want to check the Europe Discussion group, too. _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6374 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
Thanks for posting Taizy, welcome.
Don't matter how you got here.
Yea, you folks over there have had higher prices for a while but as I understand fishermen in France and truckers in London are not too happy about current conditions.
It's about what one gets used to and how a big change affects them, right?
Anyway, look around and post up! _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 830 Location: Tustin, CA
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
Welcome taizy8! From what you describe, you father was much like my mother. And I would agree Americans of the last 40 years at least are spoiled pooches who have no idea what hard times will be like!
I look forward to seeing your input. Ignore the occasional Asshole who responds (and there are several on this site).
Someone like you is a valuable resource everyone on this site can learn from. _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan
Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Irish in Idaho
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
nice to meet you Ferretlover, Pops and SILENTTOD,
I have been perusing the site and looking around elsewhere. Some of the preparations recommended here verge on the apocalyptic dare I say!!! Having watched Mad Max and Blade Runner myself I can understand the "Doom" factor.
For me the most important is health: mental as well as physical. I cannot understand how anger and panic is going to endear anyone to their fellow man. There are some postings on where one should be if things really break down and I for one might prefer to be back among my family (even though we sometimes don't get on). We are all very practical: from carpentry, mechanics, toolmaking, sailing, boatbuilding, house builders etc...One of my brothers was involved in windmills in the 70's, has some land. We are also used of frugality.
Ireland only started getting wealthy in the 90's, we had plenty of experience in poverty before then. I would be worried about another British invasion !!!
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4064 Location: Graceland
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
taizy8 wrote:
I have been perusing the site and looking around elsewhere. Some of the preparations recommended here verge on the apocalyptic dare I say!!! Having watched Mad Max and Blade Runner myself I can understand the "Doom" factor.
Don't forget the "Little House on the Prairie" crowd. Quite a few of those here too.
I prefer the hybrid approach myself in which everyone is dressed in Heavy Metal gear but living in 19th Century Walnut Grove.
Welcome to the site. It sounds like you are just the kind of person who will appreciate what is available here. _________________
Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6374 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
BigTex wrote:
I prefer the hybrid approach myself in which everyone is dressed in Heavy Metal gear but living in 19th Century Walnut Grove.
Too funny Tex!
The best thing is to read between the lines of the posters with the more outlandish opinions. Most seem to me to be Cubicle Confined Cavaliers. _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Joined: Sep 09, 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Upstate New York, U.S.A.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: New here..
Pops wrote:
Most seem to me to be Cubicle Confined Cavaliers.
Hey...I have an OFFICE!
Welcome.
Olaf _________________ "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived." - Henry David Thoreau
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