For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4064 Location: Graceland
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
dunewalker wrote:
The other day I started a thread on "Le Parkour", which flopped, as I pretty much just linked a you tube video & wikipedia w/o much if any explanation. As any martial art teaches one to fight, Le Parkour teaches one the skill of "flight"--that is, escape. As Big Tex in his martial arts costume says, skills are the key to the future, not possessions (how did we get from a location map to this?). Map or no map, after TSHTF, someone is going to find us and our stash. Without skills, our stash eventually dwindles to nothing, or we are confronted with a choice of "fight or submit", or both. I agree that survival depends not upon a few choice "garden of Edens" but upon our inner resources. A list of communication possibilities with others might be more useful. This 8 minute video illustrates a possible response to a Blackwater squad coming up the driveway of our hideout holding a map in their hand:
I thought Wisconsin_Cur's idea on another thread about locating all of the railroads in and out of a city and figuring how long it would get to one to hike out in an emergency was brilliant.
I have thought about railroad lines in this manner before, but never the idea of looking at a map before going into a new city or of familiarizing myself with all such lines in my area.
That would typically be the shortest and most direct line out of town most of the time. _________________
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
[the brain kept on thinking...]
Putting together a list of self-sufficient homestead may be a possible means of disinformation. Send the looting mobs to a preselected decoy location. _________________ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4064 Location: Graceland
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
dunewalker wrote:
The other day I started a thread on "Le Parkour", which flopped, as I pretty much just linked a you tube video & wikipedia w/o much if any explanation. This 8 minute video illustrates a possible response to a Blackwater squad coming up the driveway of our hideout holding a map in their hand:
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: northern California
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
I'm not familiar with "jackieno chanov" but those kinds of guys, doing seemingly impossible things, will rule the world. I understand that Vladimir Putin can actually do crap like that. Imagine the confidence it gave him when face-to-face with the shrub. The reality of the future, regardless of the fantasies we post here, belongs to the young and capable, period, map or no map, stash or no stash. _________________ "I believe that a wise Vermonter lives more by lack of expense rather than from income."--some Dartmouth professor from across the river
Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 54 Location: The hills of Northeast Iowa
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
While I don't have much yet, but those I will be sharing with will be family. Judging from what I've seen/read here, I'm well behind the curve, but I also know that family has to come first, regardless of what happens (even if I can't stand three of my four sister in laws!).
Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 367 Location: Mississippi Delta
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
I don't really get all of the paranoia. My farm is, well, just a farm. Not much different from all of the farms around it. Most of the land gets farmed industrially, just like all of the ones around, by a "real" farmer, and I have a garden, a well, and a few pieces of equipment for my use, and I plan to have animals eventually. But most farmers keep a garden, animals, etc, on their farms, they all hunt and probably have a stash of ammunition to rival mine. A lot of them that I know reload. Anyone that lives in an area that might get bad weather probably has a backup generator and heat sources. I seriously doubt that there is anything about any of your places that would make them a whole lot more of an appealing target than any of your neighbors.
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I wish we knew of the location within 50 miles of some likeminded people.
I can't guarantee within 50 miles, but try http://www.ic.org/ _________________ WWJD? What would Joel Salatin do?
Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: northern California
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
According to Webster's Seventh, paranoia is defined as:
2) "a tendency on the part of individuals or of groups toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness or distrustfulness of others."
There you go. Who's to say who's paranoid? Rather than irrational, I might plead guilty to "excessive rationality". Whether this is "excessive" or not remains to be seen. You are using the measure of the present and past to gauge the future, which requires a significant recalibration. _________________ "I believe that a wise Vermonter lives more by lack of expense rather than from income."--some Dartmouth professor from across the river
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
Hehe, I agree with some of you about not advertising my rat nest, however some of you are so freakin paranoid. I havent seen people so paranoid since I stopped smoking pot in 10th grade
I dont think people in the smaller US cities will have a problem with rioting.
I'm glad I'm not in a crazy place like LA or New Yourk City, those places will be hell. _________________ Tired of high gas prices? Then stop driving to work, duh..... Learn to Work from home
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4064 Location: Graceland
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
dunewalker wrote:
According to Webster's Seventh, paranoia is defined as:
2) "a tendency on the part of individuals or of groups toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness or distrustfulness of others."
There you go. Who's to say who's paranoid? Rather than irrational, I might plead guilty to "excessive rationality". Whether this is "excessive" or not remains to be seen. You are using the measure of the present and past to gauge the future, which requires a significant recalibration.
I just depend on people being unpredictable and I am rarely disappointed. _________________
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Map of self sufficient properties.
Its the ants and the grasshoppers. I save my pennies, go without the cruise ship vacations, big screen TV, and fancy McMansion. I use my resources to prepare for hard times. When the hard times come, is it right for those people who wasted their resources on luxury to demand I share what I have? I get nothing before the crash, I get nothing after the crash if it is all taken. They get the luxuries before the crash and the supplies after the crash by taking it. To me, this is BS. To hell with the grasshoppers, let them eat mudcakes
I agree, I will try to help where I can, especialy in my community. Having said that refugees from suburbia and dead beat relatives who giggled while I prepared had best move on.
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Then stop driving to work, duh..... 
