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kokoda
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What do you do when you have over a billion people to feed, dwindling water supplies and cities and industry overrunning your existing farmlands?

The sad truth is that with increased industrialisation China is losing the ability to feed itself.

It answer to that problem is to look at leasing land for food production in other countries.

The reasoning I suspect is to protect food production and to try and keep prices under control.

I wonder how close China is to having some major food shortage problems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7373213.stm
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why not? If you don't have enough land, but have enough money, you can buy the land. Lock up the means of production.

Our Irish PO.com visitors will tell you about what happened to them when the Brits tried this strategy in the 19th century.

The locals were starved so that the crops could be exported to feed the land owners.

The result: 150 years of resentment.

Silly humans.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

More on this subject here

One thing that surprises me, so much is in Africa. In a sense, it is colonization. I thought Africa was always pushing back against Europeans for this kind of thing?

"In Congo, a Chinese telecommunications giant, ZTE International, has bought more than 7 million acres of forest to plant oil palms. In Zimbabwe, state-owned China International Water and Electric Corp. reportedly received rights from the government to farm 250,000 acres of corn in the south."
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Chinese are trying to "Drink our Milkshake". We must snip their straw and bash their collective brains in with a bowling pin. Twisted Evil Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

DomusAlbion wrote:
The Chinese are trying to "Drink our Milkshake". We must snip their straw and bash their collective brains in with a bowling pin. Twisted Evil Laughing


So, I guess you, too, have seen "There Will Be Blood."

Daniel Day Lewis acted well - and I guess he won an Oscar for it.

But the movie "sucked" - no pun intended - IMO. I was totally disappointed. (And I hated Lewis' character, which I guess was the idea, though.)

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

First thing I thought I saw when I looked at the thread was "China to lease FINLAND". Took me a sec to get it right. But the fact that that sprang to mind so instantly is some indication of how things are going these days! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

pup55 wrote:
Why not? If you don't have enough land, but have enough money, you can buy the land. Lock up the means of production.

Our Irish PO.com visitors will tell you about what happened to them when the Brits tried this strategy in the 19th century.

The locals were starved so that the crops could be exported to feed the land owners.

The result: 150 years of resentment.

Silly humans.


A production sharing agreement will give the locals more incentives to help than to fight. If the Chinese can double the output and do a 50/50 split with the locals, I don't see any reason why the locals won't just let the Chinese do the work and they go on slacking.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: China to Lease Farmland Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Japs were buying up Kansas land years ago. When asked if there was a chance that they would starve us out one day, the president then said, LET THEM COME GET IT then.

What he meant was it can only get so bad then we just take it back from the little bastards.
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