Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
TommyJefferson wrote:
In Austin a couple of weeks ago I met a guy who works in downtown Austin, but lives 25 miles north in Leander.
He rides the metro in to work everyday. He only puts a couple thousand miles a year on his car.
I want this. I want the higher wages of working in a downtown Metro area, but I also want the benefits of living rural.
I very much desire to get to work on my rural survivalist compound, but I still need income to pay for my kids' college.
Please help! Where is the best place in Texas to build a rural survival compound, but still be able to commute to a large metro downtown on public transportation?
I'm afraid I'm running out of time.
My wife has a friend who lives in Leander on New Hope Road (No Hope Road). To get to their house, we drive by MILE after MILE after MILE of cookie cutter 250,000 dollar homes. Theres nothing there. No stores, no nothing. And every time we go there, I think, man these people are sooooo screwed.....and I wonder how they are going to eat?
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
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I think it's unlikely there will be the investment in new infrastructure in a future of expensive energy.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Large cities have the advantage of being able to float enormous amounts of capital through municipal bonds and other tax measures. Granted, they'll be strapped trying to keep the Yellow Fleets and fire trucks running, but they can still do public works. Whats more important is using the infrastructure they already have. (Such as getting some extra service out of those Yellow Fleets while they're not hauling children, for starters.)
Expensive energy really isn't a problem. People in Europe have been paying $5-$9 a gallon for gas for years, and they are doing fine. The problem is reliability of supply... I can handle $10 gas as long as I know the station will be open when I get there. I just drive less often and get a smaller car. But if gas is only $1 a gallon and you don't know if there's any for sale, thats when the panic sets in.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
THere is an old depot about two miles from my house; a railroad used to run through all the small towns out here. You can still see the old track bed, but the rights of way have all been sold. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
alecifel wrote:
Expensive energy really isn't a problem.
Whew! Good to know. And here I thought Peak Oil was a problem!
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
There are various reasons you might not want to live south of Dallas not relevant to your OP, but south of Dallas there is some very affordable property and pretty good schools too. There is a park and ride bus about 15 miles south of Dallas that will take you downtown. If you drove 30 minutes farther from the park and ride, you could be WAY out in the country if that's what you wanted.
Sprawl is not headed that direction, either, so that's a plus, I suppose. _________________
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
Thanks guys!
I think the trick with this plan is going to be political research and monitoring combined with land scouting.
I have rough criteria for the land I want:
- 10~20 acres
- Some type of habitable structure already on it
- WATER, I'd prefer a river but a large stock pond or a well that can run off PV would suffice
- less than 20 minutes to a Park-N-Ride
So the trick is to anticipate politically where new rail or bus stations will be built and buy land there before the station goes in which will cause land prices to go up.
I know west of Austin is rocky, hilly, and expensive. I know nothing about Leander. I think the political odds of public transport extending east out to Taylor/Elgin/Bastrop are low.
I do like the land better east of Austin. I really like the strip off 95 between Elgin and Bastrop. Proper trees!
I know nothing about south of Dallas. Per suggestion I will examine the proposed Park-n-Ride plans for Dallas and do some motorcycle scouting around there. _________________ Conform . Consume . Obey .
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
TommyJefferson wrote:
Thanks guys!
I know nothing about south of Dallas. Per suggestion I will examine the proposed Park-n-Ride plans for Dallas and do some motorcycle scouting around there.
It's not plans, there has been a Park-n-Ride in Glenn Heights for a long time (on Bear Creek just west of I-35), so that part of the plan is good. I would scout Red Oak, Waxahachie, Ovilla and that area of Ellis county. Check out one of the local real estate cos. like Ebby Halliday and do a property search for that area and you will get a feel for what's there and what it costs.
Up north, there may be some good buys in Prosper or in the area just north of Frisco and Plano. The farthest north DART rail stop is Parker and 75 in Plano. LOTS of people drive in and take the train from there to downtown or some stop along the way. Trouble is, it can be almost an hour from the Parker stop to downtown. If you have to commute to the train, this makes the commute just too long, IMO.
I don't know what you do or where you live now, but Denton is a nice city. There may be some good opportunity there, and there are lots of places surrounding Denton that are pretty secluded. _________________
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
West of Houston has some potential. We looked at Richmond area and around there. There's a park & ride type bus thing at I-10 near Hwy 6.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
This is something I'm considering putting in a different thread because it's in a different state, but this is a dilema I'm sort of facing in Wisconsin.
Madison Wisconsin has Ok bus service, but no light rail or subway's at all. I'd like to be able to work downtown but still live outside of the city. There are talks of a commuter rail going in, and it would be child's play to connect it to the rail system that is still in place going out west. If that happens, buying some land near enough to walk to one of the train stations that are still there would be ideal.
It plays out in my head, but the people protesting this are the same one's who killed the street car idea. They are worried rightly that it will raise their taxes.
I just hope projects like this happen before we start having real problems with our infrastructure building. Madison plays to be a center of Bio research and technology. I think I might like to become the director of security at one of these places, as that's where most of my job experience so far has gone.
Of course, no matter what I choose for a job, 10 to 1 it's going to be somewhere in the city. _________________ Azreal60
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Live rural, work metro; Where in Texas?
Well this seems to be the perfect place to put this comment in.
I just returned from a visit to Houston. I do a trip usually once a year and this time around I was shocked.
Houston has changed drastically in my eyes. The freeways, highways, strip malls, stores have accelerated in growth since my last trip. Driving on Westheimer from the Galleria to Highway 6, it seemed that I was passing one long stretching strip mall. Congestion on Westheimer much much greater than on my last trip and this was 2 in the afternoon.
Western subs are amazing. Driving toward Pecan Grove and Sugarland was amazing. The house sizes were beyound belief. Guess no one there is aware of any energy problems
What the heck has happened here? Did half of New Orleans move to Houston? _________________ Men argue, nature acts !
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