THE US Elections Thread (merged)

PopeGideon · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 158

Zardoz, was there a point to your post other than that Jews have lived in Palistina since Roman times?
Like I said, while Zionists desperately would like to argue that they have never left the land and blah blah blah, most reasonable people see that the only claim to the land is an historic claim and/or a religious claim and not an actual claim.
So, Zardoz, what I'm saying is that your posted article is exactly the reason Israel is hated by so many. It makes unreasonable arguments, which are transparently unreasonable.

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PopeGideon · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 158

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Schadenfreude · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 606

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I'm not a Repub, but I think Hukabuck is a better canidate that Mcgoof. This guy don't impress me at all.

lawnchair · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 793

McCain is, so far as I can tell, about a 60 watt bulb. Very possibly would have gotten dropped from the Naval Academy or the Navy if his father wasn't an Admiral. Affable and halfway decent guy, but has basically no energy or economic thought, and is prone to saying stupid things near open mics. I'm not sure he won't get led around (in an insulating bubble of praise) by the neocon ambitions. Just like GWB. I_L_P, you're down in Arizona (though McCain probably rarely is)... any thoughts?

Saying "the country will never vote the Clintons in again" is giving *far* too much credit to America. Bill spun a lot of false crap at Bob Dole (someone I know, and I know is a lot sharper than McCain), and enough stuck. As Bill later told Dole, "Ya gotta do what ya gotta do".

Getting handed the country now is playing catch with a lit stick of dynamite. Good luck to whoever catches it.
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Rush Limbaugh is telling his listeners to forget about the presidential election and focus all their energy on the Congressional races. He says that if Republicans do well in Congress, they can block anything from Mc Cain or Obama/Clinton. He considers Mc Cain to be a liberal, hence his strategy.

I guess to a neocon, anyone outside their narrow view of the world is a liberal.
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the neocons will rebrand themselves and take up residence in the democratic white house, have no doubt. you BDS liberals make me laugh. like dubya invented realpoltik or is singlehandely responsible for our oil dependency. he's just another empty suit. thats all. no better or worse thsan the last guy.

the dems have very statist tendancies, you know, for our own good. that type. they'll attempt to restrict the last few rights we have, esepecially our right to bear arms. and soon iafter, t will become illegal to remind the world that islamics consider women to be worth half a man and have a tendancy to cut peoples heads off when they get pissed. we'll be politically neutered 'subjects' like the wretched british, so our glorious leaders can make the right decisions for us.

less filling/tastes great. thats the choice again this time around. bush assaulted habeus corpus from the right, in the name of security. hitelry or obama will attack our first emendment rights from the left, in the name of progressive 'correct' thought.

in the not too distant future, YOU will be forbidden from driving or buying gas in the name of 'climate change' while our glorious leaders and the politically connected will have the run of the country. remember, some pigs are more equal than others.

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Schadenfreude · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 606

I like the Democratic Senator from Virginia, Jim Webb. Obama is going to need someone with foreign policy strengths.

That would be a helluva of foreign policy shouting match - between Webb and McCain. It would allow Obama to stay safe, up high, in his ivory tower. Webb seems bright, too, although I was disappointed when I checked out one of his novels from the library. Very plain and unoriginal writing. But every time he opens his mouth something intelligent comes out of it.

Also, if Obama wins, it seems like he would have to immediately betray his adamant campaign promise to bring the troops home from Iraq. I just don't see that happening - at least not ALL of them.

This article pretty much spells out the politics surrounding the Iraq Occupation. No way will Obama be able to simply reverse everything the Bush Administration has done over there.Asia Times - The Door To Iraq's Oil Opens

It would be interesting to see what sort of spin someone like Jim Webb puts on the whole post-Bush Iraq quandary. I had thought we would see additional terrorism justifying an indefinite US troop presence in Iraq. And I also thought that the Peak Oil story, with all its terrifying ramifications, emerge from official sources, scaring the daylights out of the American public once again.

Maybe there is still time for a little more terror and a little more mainstreaming of an impending energy crisis.

I don't know why I'm asking this question here on PO.com though. This has got to be the least politically interested crowd on the net; everything is irrelevant except for the impending collapse of human civilization, a realization that only POers have made and no one else!
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Schadenfreude · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 606