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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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What the heck are you on about, slave? _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate! |
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anarky321 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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| if your going to post stuff like this can you be more detailed, more clear and less biased in the description, your description screams of personal sentiment and bias, and i dont see how this is a look into the future of venezuela, more like a "pro-american summary of how chavez came to power and what he has done up to this point" |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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Well .......... sorry if I seem "biased" or personally "affected" by the messages but those videos speak quite clearly what the venezuelan future will look like in a shortwhile and the kind of panorama is expecting for us ALL (you included).
When you start watching videos such as those, it is because the mediatic campaign against that "unconfortable leader" has started out and that sets up the beginning of a new approach to "solve" out THAT problem. However, it usually indicates other than "diplomatic" means to carry it out.
Irak and those "WMD" is a perfect example as well as this recent campaign up against Iran and their new "nuclear status".
Just for the records, this is NOT only a personal view but, as you said, its more than a personal sentiment. It is a NATIONAL sentiment, where way over 75-85% of Venezuelans do agree in the ENTIRE content and message transmitted throughout those videos.
Even, some of us (venezuelans) may be internally WISHING them (their ARMED FORCES) to be the problem solvers of our political situation since, our "democratic" struggle and response capability, as well as the remaining of our democratic INSTITUTIONS, have been simply and SYSTEMATICALLY exhausted off by this local character, posing as our "president".
Not me included in that last list since, I am FULLY aware of the game the american SYSTEM is playing with this other south american country and its main resource: "oil"
The last of the videos says why MOST of us would NOT consider hugo chavez to be our legitimate president and since then, SIX long years have passed by and the guy is, internationally, very much stronger, thanks to the careless uncontrolled "management" of our petrodollars but nationally, is at its lowest possible level instead, thanks to the precaotic situation lived by most citizens of this country. _________________ Only if you are interested in the real side of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950 |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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Dude...learn the judicious use (or not use of) quotation marks.
I hate grammar "nazi's" like everyone "else", but it really does not help your "cause" to annoy your prospective "readers".
Just some "friendly" advice. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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| Quote: | | Just for the records, this is NOT only a personal view but, as you said, its more than a personal sentiment. It is a NATIONAL sentiment, where way over 75-85% of Venezuelans do agree in the ENTIRE content and message transmitted throughout those videos. |
Please provide a link to substantiate those contentious figures.
Hugo Chavez has been repeatedly elected over the past few years. He isn't a dictator.
| Quote: | One of the most insidious forms of US, European and ruling class efforts to undermine autonomous mass movements is the funding, training and proliferation of the misleadingly self-labeled ‘Non-Governmental Organizations’ (NGO). The liberal academic critics (LAC) of the democratically elected Chavez government echo and mimic the rhetoric of the NGO’s – accusing Venezuela of lacking popular participation and discouraging ‘open and democratic debate.’......
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_25779.shtml |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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Sure do:
http://www.soberania.org/Articulos/articulo_1772.htm
Those figures were from the "parlamentary elections" held some three years ago. Some even calculated it in 90 percent abstention yet I am quite conservative, as you can see.
Look julianj, those ciphers were also provided surely in other post of mine, since I always like to talk with evidences in my hands. Not only my personal perspectives on venezuelan matters are enough. I also claim the same balanced attitude back. Perhaps those dubious questions feel a bit out of order.
I am also providing the official link of the electoral department of this regime and how they manage the info over there. _________________ Only if you are interested in the real side of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950 |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the upcoming venezuelan future. |
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| Quote: | | Two weeks after the referendum, the Federal Government fabricated a case linking the Venezuelan government to an attempt to finance the Presidential elections in Argentina. |
From your link, could be "fabricated" the correct word for such notorious yet currently common case? _________________ Only if you are interested in the real side of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950 |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. |
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The rule of thumb of most people is to read the opposite of what their government says
Either the crap is just about to hit the fan orrr ......... they´d ¿reformed?!!!
 _________________ Only if you are interested in the real side of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950 |
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pana_burda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. |
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¿respect?
Come ON ...... the singlest ONE thing hugo, REALLY REALLY respects, is his 100.000.000 Dollars check, the empire sends over, every single day of the year.
If dubya expects him to respect something else, we are in deep crap here. _________________ Only if you are interested in the real side of truth.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: A glimpse into the Ven. future. Small steps to war. |
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Glad I'm a speed reader, next please.........  |
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