Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
This should be good news (kinda) since it at least indicates some dim awareness of the problem. Or does it?
Along with fuel economy mandates comes a mandate to increase ethanol production six-fold by 2022.
Pelosi, Reid and Bush, arm in arm to save us - who's cloning idiots, anyway?
Apparently as our last gasp, we're going to squander what's left of our topsoil and aquifers so we can burn food in our cars. On the bright side, several third-world countries may get a jump start on their die-off! _________________ Oil - it's what's for dinner.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
Agreed, Bas - it probably won't - at least the full six-fold increased volume won't. Rest assured, though, that we'll do one hell of a lot of damage to topsoil and aquifers along the way! The dual distortions of farm subsidies and this new mandate guarantees that... _________________ Oil - it's what's for dinner.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
I read somewhere that to produce that much ethanol will require something like half of our corn crop? $8.00/box corn flakes and $12.00/lb steak anyone?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Senate energy bill Passed - Of course no renewables!
Here's a bit of sanity from media on the "energy" bill:
America: We're the new China!
Weak, gutless Democrats, sneering, oil-loving Republicans and cars that belch and shrug
By Mark Morford
As part of my ongoing effort to save my own soul and avoid repeatedly stabbing myself in the eye with a fork in screaming frustration, and also because it's Beltway politics and watching it too closely is akin to having your cerebral cortex raped by encephalitic trolls, I've only paid cursory attention to the massive, landmark energy bill that's right now passing like a painful gallstone through Congress and getting snagged here and gutted there and stripped of key provisions over here, all so Dubya won't veto it, given how it might be just too mean to his fat, piggish pals in Big Energy.
Besides, it's an energy bill. It's Congress. It's like saying "altar boys" and "the Vatican." What are the odds of something good coming of it?
But oh, there was a glimmer of promise. There was, for the briefest of time, the possibility of a shift, of progress, a bit of light at the end of the bleak, dank Bush tunnel, just enough to maybe let us raise our heads from this seven-year hole of misery and let a tiny drop of hope fall into the collective heart. The bastards.
There was, most notably, the Democrats' rather astounding provision that dared to rescind a rather disgusting $13.5 billion in corporate tax breaks enjoyed by Bush's oil cronies, basically a massive government handout to Exxon and Shell and the rest to keep them fat and happy and flush with even more billions in profit because heaven forfend they actually pay their fair share of the tax burden for keeping the nation hooked on its unbelievably destructive brand of heroin. ...
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
dooberheim wrote:
I read somewhere that to produce that much ethanol will require something like half of our corn crop? $8.00/box corn flakes and $12.00/lb steak anyone?
DK
You're a little short. It will require more than ALL our corn crop. One fifth of the corn crop is already going for ethanol.
With corn above $4 a bushel and wheat above $10, farmers are going to want to take their land out of conservation reserve, which exposes some of our most fragile soils to erosion and compaction issues. That could expand the total harvest on the order of 10%--for a time, before those lands are destroyed. _________________ Just another tofu-munching bike-riding Rambo(/Rambette)
Joined: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 1780 Location: Republic of Texas
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
fireplaceguy wrote:
This should be good news (kinda) since it at least indicates some dim awareness of the problem. Or does it?
It indicates corporate welfare is alive and well.
Fedgov mandates that the citizenry pay via taxes and regulations to benefit a small group of corporate interests. Choose not to pay, and serious men with guns show up at your house to collect. They have the legal right to kill you if you resist.
Your options are: have your earnings taken by force, or get shot.
How is this good? _________________ Conform . Consume . Obey .
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
Well, I was right, and in the worst way. A relative in Iowa informs me that there is frenzied clear-cutting taking place nearby to create more farmland for corn. They pile up whole trees and burn them - don't even take the time to cut them up for firewood...
Dammit! _________________ Oil - it's what's for dinner.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Congress passes fuel economy bill - Bush will sign...
fireplaceguy wrote:
Apparently as our last gasp, we're going to squander what's left of our topsoil and aquifers so we can burn food in our cars. On the bright side, several third-world countries may get a jump start on their die-off!
Yep, as I recall, Bush said (in his latest energy address to the nation, a couple of weeks ago?) that America will commit to corn ethanol, also other crops for ethanol, clean coal and nuclear energy. In fact, he said Americans must embrace nuclear energy if they are serious about reducing greenhouse emissions.
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