Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
I hope he will read that book and write a comment on that. He is the last man of Labour Party on British Isles
Enjoy. _________________ The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
Strahan's always worth listening to - and has managed to get some fairly no-nonsense Peak Oil commentaries into the mainstream media of late.
I actually couldn't watch this broadcast, as Galloway (following the toe-curling embarrassment of his Big Brother appearance) seems to have decided to promote himself as some sort of mid-day shopping channel host.
I half expected him to whip out some kitchenware, and say 'the phone lines are open now'.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
I like Galloway - I don't care what kind of PR he got _________________ The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
Our system brings rewards to all,
At least to all who matter.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way). _________________ The Lies Of Richard Heinberg
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
OilIsMastery wrote:
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way).
Any evidence?
Galloway was aginst out support for the Saddam regime. I'd like my knowledge corrected if it is flawed.
I ask this question often. Why does everyone hate him? He was hated before the Big Brother thing. Nobody has ever been able to give me a reason why they hate him.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
OilIsMastery wrote:
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way).
Someday you will look back on Saddam with great affection. He managed to keep the fractious tribes in line and the country at relative peace. Why do you think we installed him in the first place?
The 30,000 kurds he murdered are a mere handful next to the millions that have died under out embargoes, bombings, and occupation. You are obviously a neocon puppet.
oh. and depleted uranium munitions are not nice for growing things and babies either. _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
Grifter wrote:
I ask this question often. Why does everyone hate him? He was hated before the Big Brother thing. Nobody has ever been able to give me a reason why they hate him.
He isn't actually universally hated. But like anyone whose views challenge the orthodoxy (John Pilger being a prime example) the media (serving the interests of big business - and therefore government) is compelled to demonise and ridicule him to lessen any possible influence he may have on shaping public opinion.
Galloway's unforgivably wilful transformation into a pseudo-celeb buffoon, came at a time when the public was actually desperate for someone to act as a conduit for something approaching the truth in current affairs interpretation. By his own hand, his credibility has been shot to shreds, meaning he can now be more easily portrayed as a self-serving oaf by press and tv commentators.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
True, Galloway became a narcissist buffoon, but on his side there are no "moderates". There are some mainstream myths about him, and some people here just repeat those myths.
1) He was against Desert Storm in 1991 because casus belli was based on lies (babies removed from incubators and let to die was a great fraud). He wanted to solve this problem diplomatically.
2) He was against the massacre of Kurds, but English and American governments sold him the weapons and enable the massacres, after that Saddam got biggest credits form Americans (in 1989) - because "it would stabilize region..."
3) He is antizionist, being antizionist makes you very popular in Arab countries. But media show him as a fifth column of Al-Qaeda... Being pro-arab doesn't mean that you are an islamist. _________________ The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
Our system brings rewards to all,
At least to all who matter.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
Grifter wrote:
OilIsMastery wrote:
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way).
Any evidence?
Galloway was aginst out support for the Saddam regime. I'd like my knowledge corrected if it is flawed.
Actually Galloway was and still is against America, Britain, and Australia's regime change policy in Iraq. Try again. _________________ The Lies Of Richard Heinberg
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
OilIsMastery wrote:
Grifter wrote:
OilIsMastery wrote:
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way).
Any evidence?
Galloway was aginst out support for the Saddam regime. I'd like my knowledge corrected if it is flawed.
Actually Galloway was and still is against America, Britain, and Australia's regime change policy in Iraq. Try again.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
Grifter wrote:
OilIsMastery wrote:
Grifter wrote:
OilIsMastery wrote:
George Galloway is a Ba'athist puppet. If he had his way Saddam Hussein would still be raping Iraq and burning the Kuwaiti oil fields (great for the environment by the way).
Any evidence?
Galloway was aginst out support for the Saddam regime. I'd like my knowledge corrected if it is flawed.
Actually Galloway was and still is against America, Britain, and Australia's regime change policy in Iraq. Try again.
History doesn't begin in 2001 you know.
I thought we invaded because of wmd's?
Try again
You thought we invaded solely because of WMD's on account of ignorance and a lack of education. It was Saddam's Hussein's support of terrorism alongside the potentional nexus between Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq and WMD's, Saddam Hussein violation of UN resolutions, and the abuse of the Iraqi people by their own government that caused us to invade. This was all in Colin Powell's speech to the UN.
George Galloway was and still is to this day one of the strongest supporters of Saddam Hussein's regime. This was later discovered to be because of oil bribes from the Hussein's terrorist Ba'ath Party. _________________ The Lies Of Richard Heinberg
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
Oh my dear...
1. There was no terrorism connection - this is a fraud - give me an clear evidence besides CIA pre-invasion false statements to scare people.
2. This "so-called" violations are useless because this "violations" were built upon WMD program. There was no violations, Iraqis gave all documents they had, because there was no WMD there were no violations. There couldn't be... Listen to Hans Blix first.
3. Abuse was done in '80s when Hussein killed Kurds and Shii'tes when this guy on left:
sold him WMD. Sorry, Powell was, let me be charitable, talking non-sense. During last 12 years nothing special happened besides Operation Desert Fox under Clinton administration. Dems and Reps are the same.
4. Oh, the "kickbacks" from the Oil for Food, these were forgeries and the journal that published it paid 1,8 million pounds to Galloway for that. CSM made an article about it.
All your effort is nothing but lies. _________________ The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
Our system brings rewards to all,
At least to all who matter.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Blast injuries killed terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi after a coalition airstrike hit his safe house, the U.S. military said Monday.
Our concern is not just about these illicit weapons. It's the way that these illicit weapons can be connected to terrorists and terrorist organizations that have no compunction about using such devices against innocent people around the world.
Iraq and terrorism go back decades. Baghdad trains Palestine Liberation Front members in small arms and explosives. Saddam uses the Arab Liberation Front to funnel money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers in order to prolong the intifada. And it's no secret that Saddam's own intelligence service was involved in dozens of attacks or attempted assassinations in the 1990s.
But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda lieutenants.
Zarqawi, a Palestinian born in Jordan, fought in the Afghan war more than a decade ago. Returning to Afghanistan in 2000, he oversaw a terrorist training camp. One of his specialities and one of the specialties of this camp is poisons. When our coalition ousted the Taliban, the Zarqawi network helped establish another poison and explosive training center camp. And this camp is located in northeastern Iraq.
there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. Actually I guess you could say there's a fourth overriding one which is the connection between the first two.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]
OilIsMastery wrote:
You thought we invaded solely because of WMD's on account of ignorance and a lack of education.
Now there's no need for that, play nice. I have a degree from a pretty below average university. What about you?
Do you read much? Other than CNN type stuff(which I read too).
We never go to war for humanitarian reasons, we as humans I mean. Do you really think that the fact that Saddam was a nasty bastard had anything to do with the war? Does oil have absolutely nothing to do with it? I mean I'd forgive you for suggesting that Iraq's oil reserves were his wmd.
Galloway has been on the record for years as AGAINST the Iraq regime as was. That is whilst our governments were friendly with him.
He was against the war, not pro the regime. Surely you can tell the difference.
Governments and terrorism go back centuries. I'm not really sure what terrorism means to be honest. I mean the US and the UK have both been guilty of it. I'm sure many others too, Saddam included.
I wouldn't vote for Galloway though, just for the record, his views are too simplistic. The more I see the guy villified though, the more integrity he seems to have.
Quote:
criminal treatment of the Iraqi people
please, think about what is being said there. heard of abu graib ?
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