These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600
you gotta subtract what the netherlands and France re-export too, as you see they are in the top 20 exporters list as well as in the importers list. _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
These 11 European countries with an area and population quite similer to the USA import 14,226,600. Leave out the UK because they still export part of the time and you still get 13,142,600
you gotta subtract what the netherlands and France re-export too, as you see they are in the top 20 exporters list as well as in the importers list.
11 United Kingdom 1,498,000 2001
12 Netherlands 1,418,000 2001
20 France 474,200 2005
15 United States 1,048,000 2004
OK same countries as before from the top twenty lists.
USA net imports 12,102,000
European 11 net imports 10,836,400
The difference is 10.5% with Europe being that much more efficient in sucking up Petroleum to provide very similer standards of living. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.
madrid wrote:
But those countries together comprise over 500 million people, whereas the US comprises 300 million.
Show me the census figures for those 11 countries listed. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
a total of 496 million. Turkey has 71 million people in it. _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
a total of 496 million. Turkey has 71 million people in it.
Using only the 11 countries named in the earlier post plus turkey I get a figure of 455,827,209
That gives 10,836,400/Europe+Turkey=.024 bbl/person/day and for the USA 12,102,000/301,789,000= .04bbl/person/day.
No matter how you slice it the fact remains these major European countries are a major importing group. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.
I don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures. _________________ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. - Buddha
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.
davep wrote:
I don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.
very true, also Europe also sends about a million barrels worth of refined to the US (probably a fair share of that coming from Netherland) _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.
davep wrote:
I don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.
I thought it was perfectly clear from the context that I was referring to oil imports, sorry for any confusion on that point.
If you want to talk about those kind of totals you have to add in Norway and possibly a couple others to the list, I thought 11 European states were sufficient. Taken as a whole most of the oil exported from Norway ends up being imported in other European countries, which certainly should fit your requirement of internal consumption. That would add about 3.4 Mbbl/day to the European total while adding USA internal production adds about 5.5Mbbl/day. I tried to keep things as simple as possible (The KISS principle) by using just the data from the first page listing the top 20 countries in each catagory, Norway is not an importer at all so only shows up on the export list.
By the same token every country you add to the European list adds demand below the top 20 threshold that becomes increasingly difficult to find and corolate accurately. You are welcome to look up all the figures and do the math and post the results if you think my method was inaccurate or misleading. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.
Bas wrote:
davep wrote:
I don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.
very true, also Europe also sends about a million barrels worth of refined to the US (probably a fair share of that coming from Netherland)
So do some math and post your own results. _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
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